Portable Appliance Testing

Marky65

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Oct 27, 2008
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Hi
Does anyone know of a good & reputable electrician in or around the Plymouth area who can carry out prtable appliance testing. I know that this can be done by any reasonble competent person but we are so busy in the office that we don't have time to carry it out. We have about 30-40 items which will need testing.
Thanks for your help
Mark
 

KateCB

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May 11, 2006
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This may sounds silly but are you sure they need testing?

We got a booklet from HSE (free - give your local office cal) and basically we had had items tested evey year that only required testing very 3 - 5 yars - some didn't need testing at all! Worth checking out though.

Make sure that whoever you use comes complete with the relevant stickers and a meter - we had one guy turn up who told us that he couldn't afford the meter, but he was fully qualified and would inital our PAT log book.......he didn't get the job that year!
 
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Hi

There are certain requirements for different fields.

For example, equipment on construction sites, both Class I and Class II equipment needs testing every 3 months.

Industrial including commercial kitchens, Class I and Class II dependant on whether they are stationary or portable and handheld need testing either every 12 months or 6 months

There are different requirements for equipment used by the public, schools, hotels, offices and shops.
 
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newsh1

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I have a few commercial properties up and down the UK and the cost of the PAT's can really vary. It depends how many tests you need to have done but usually it is about £1.5 for the first 50 and £1.25ish thereafter.

Try Calbarrie 01908 422281 who are a franchise and so cover the UK
 
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Generally depends on the level of service, number of appliances and the most important bit the documentation to defend YOU the duty holder in court.

There are two qualifications required (C&G2377) as a Pat tester. Generally a term of 12 months testing is more cost effective for most businesses if they haven't set up an internal preventative maintenance program in house.

The bottom line is that you can be fined (up to £20k per each offence in a magistrates court, unlimited fines and even imprisonment in a crown court) and your insurance could refuse to pay out should there be a fire due to faulty equipment or someone receives an electric shock.

You do have to be careful in this area because unfortunately people have been given the impression that Pat Testing (electrical safety testing) is just a quick money making scheme to put stickers on things and collect the cash. You therefore get unexperienced people buying testing equipment on the pretence that they can go and make a small fortune.

They usually charge silly prices (to obtain business quickly) and generally do not carry out the work correctly. The customer (you) are unaware that the work has been carried out incorrectly because your appliances have some scribbled geen pass stickers on them which could look formal but may be totally eligible.

Some franchise companies pay their staff on the number of appliances they put stickers on and so corners become cut.

This is a serious subject so I have listed below some pointers which I hope will help others.

Some pointers for companies looking for a Pat Testing company / service:

  • Check that the tester holds the correct qualifications and familiar with the testing equipment
  • Check that the tester is fully insured on your site (usually a member of a government approved electrical scheme)
  • Check that the testing equipment has a calibration certificate and is in date
  • Check that you will receive TESTING RESULTS not just the wording 'pass' on a home made excel spreadsheet. Very important! as these documents will be the only thing you will have to defend yourself in court and prove yourself innocent.
  • Check that the tester actually opens (where applicable) plugtops to check the connections and fuse ratings
  • Check number of appliances that they can test in a day, 100 appliances tested correctly would take a full day.
If anyone would like further information just PM me.

Regards

Warren
 
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Some franchise companies pay their staff on the number of appliances they put stickers on and so corners become cut.

Sadly, this is an industry in which very few can be trusted to do the job properly, not just the franchises.

I built, owned sold a serious size pat test business "doing the job properly" getting massive contracts...and came to the conclusion that much of the industry just throws stickers on - Some of the one man bands were even worse.

I could win even money by going in the day after pat testing by much of the competition, and betting that I could find a dangerous piece of equipment and would probably have to go no further than the extension leads, to prove my point!! - Plus find a few stickers on 9V appliances just to prove the point that they cheat.

The problem is it is a grudge purchase. People pay to tick a box, not becuase they want it done properly if at all.. So long as they can "transfer the risk" to someone elses insurance. That means they tend to cease to care, how it is done, so long as it is done.

It is not breaking the law to fail to test - or even follow the code of practise - it is only used as evidence of a breach of health and safety regs if somebody gets hurt, or the HSE come in for other reasons,and decide to throw the book at you.


My advice to small companies, is get the book, follow it. It really is easy stuff. The hardest bit is grubbing around to find the cables.

Do it yourself, and concentrate on visual inspection. MOST of the problems can be found this way - particularly look at long trailing leads eg for vaccuum cleaners, extension leads, power drills, kettles , the plugs and so on. Focus on areas accessed by public.

On the other hand, if all you want is to tick a box.......rather than keep people safe....
 
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