Photoshop Help Please

[derekmoan]

HI

Can someone advise me with Photoshop please. I need help on resizing an image which is a logo.

Basically the image currently is about 500px x 275px and I need it to be 150px x 65px

I tried changing the sizes but it looked crap so must be another way

 

[DavidWH]

In what way does it look crap?

You will want to constrain proportions, so set the width to 150px, and let photoshop determine the height, which will likely be less than 65px.

 

[derekmoan]

the image isn't "smooth" now and looks all blocky

I need to keep to those exact sizes though

 

[Raw Rob]

In the Image Size options box you need to make sure the check box "Resample Image" is ticked. "Bicubic" is the default I think, but if it still doesn't look good you could try changing it to "Bicubic smoother". (I am using an old version of Photoshop, but I guess these options will be similar.)

 

[derekmoan]

no mate, didn't have the option and image looks like your profile image now

 

[Raw Rob]

Also, if your image is starting off as an indexed colour image (such as GIF), first change Image->Mode to RGB colour before resizing.

Or just send me the image and I will give it a go for you.

 

[derekmoan]

this is the image I have saved /search?q=guts+logo&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB743GB743&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjdtdDuj-7VAhXRI1AKHQqrCxcQ_AUICigB&biw=1280&bih=542#imgrc=rvEdP0tSFoDvHM:

trouble is I have more than 1 to do so need to sort this for myself

 

[derekmoan]

obviously had to drop the google search bit of the link as I can't post links

 

[Raw Rob]

rawrob.
com/test-image.jpg
(Ok, this forum doesn't seem to be able to handle images very well, I don't want this to be a live link to my website so you need to fix the link to see the image)
Works fine when I do it. Of course it only looks fine at 100%, if you zoom in it looks blocky.

 

[derekmoan]

what exact process did you do then as I didn't get that mate?

 

[Raw Rob]

Go to Image -> Image size and tell me what options you have available, you must be using a different version of photoshop to me.

 

[Raw Rob]

Post a screen shot if you can.

 

[derekmoan]

i68.tinypicxxx/28wo68i.png

replace xxx with .com

 

[Raw Rob]

i68.tinypicxxx/28wo68i.png

replace xxx with .com

Link doesn't work.

 

[derekmoan]

god know, in the box it says -

image size

dimensions

fit to

width

height

resolution

resample (ticked) - automatic

 

[Raw Rob]

I don't know then. Resample is what you want, and it is ticked so that is correct. Can you not change the "Automatic" to other options? What version of Photoshop are you using?

 

[derekmoan]

just downloaded a free trial from adobe

 

[Raw Rob]

You can download an old version of Photoshop CS2 for free (well technically you need a licence for it, but I don't think they care anymore its so old) https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-suite/kb/cs2-product-downloads.html?promoid=19SCDRQK
You need to create an account on the Adobe website when prompted.

I'm still using CS2 and it works, it's what I used for the sample image.

 

[derekmoan]

i give up, wouldn't let me install without a serial number. thanks though

 

[paulears]

I suspect the problem simply is that 150 pixels wide is a very small image - I just downloaded that guts logo and then at 150 pixels it IS very blocky, and you really can't smooth it out without softening it badly.

Adobe CC uses the auto setting as default now, and I can confirm that if you take that image and shrink it down to 150 pixels width - it looks totally fine and normal AT THAT SIZE - if you then make it fill a bigger frame, there simply isn't enough data to create a sharp image on ANY preset.

What exactly are you attempting to do? It's the old story - making images bigger means creating new data which you don't have. Logos are meant to be small, and then kept small. Are you certain that when you change the size, it is not job done? Are you then expanding the magnification, expecting it to look good? It won't.

 

[DavidWH]

Personally I would create a logo as a vector file, using Illustrator or similar, enabling you to scale the logo indefinitely without any loss of quality, most photoshop effects can be recreated in illustrator, although some, such as drop shadow effect will be rasterised, unless you manually create it as a shape.

You can export is as Jpeg, or even import the vector into Photoshop and do what you need to do.

There are companies out there that will be more than happy to redraw your logo for a nominal fee.

 

[derekmoan]

I suspect the problem simply is that 150 pixels wide is a very small image - I just downloaded that guts logo and then at 150 pixels it IS very blocky, and you really can't smooth it out without softening it badly.

Adobe CC uses the auto setting as default now, and I can confirm that if you take that image and shrink it down to 150 pixels width - it looks totally fine and normal AT THAT SIZE - if you then make it fill a bigger frame, there simply isn't enough data to create a sharp image on ANY preset.

What exactly are you attempting to do? It's the old story - making images bigger means creating new data which you don't have. Logos are meant to be small, and then kept small. Are you certain that when you change the size, it is not job done? Are you then expanding the magnification, expecting it to look good? It won't.

no idea what most of that means but at least you've seen the issue I've had. And to be fair the other poster above did manage to resize the image perfectly.
I had one person do them all in a different website and now Im doing a different 1 myself and they managed to do it perfectly

 

[Gecko001]

Personally I would create a logo as a vector file, using Illustrator or similar, enabling you to scale the logo indefinitely without any loss of quality, most photoshop effects can be recreated in illustrator, although some, such as drop shadow effect will be rasterised, unless you manually create it as a shape.

You can export is as Jpeg, or even import the vector into Photoshop and do what you need to do.

There are companies out there that will be more than happy to redraw your logo for a nominal fee.

I agree a logo should always be done in a vector program such as Adobe Illustrator. That way the image will never lose resolution no matter what size it is. It will also look crisper and more business-like. It is very easy to tell if a logo has not been produced by a vector program. There are plenty of freelance sites where you can get people to vectorise Photoshop images. Also plenty of graphic designers who will do it for very little cost.

 

[paulears]

I wouldn't worry - Derek joined, asked this question then cleared off - he hasn't;t been back since August last year. Clearly, the logo he linked to is quite simple for anyone with a basic knowledge of graphics to re-create in any size, or in a vector graphics package where size is not critical.

 

[Simon-M]

I think he smashed his computer out of pure frustration. Seen it happen loads of times

Never use an adjustable spanner, never try to squeeze a quart into a pint pot, never design a logo in photoshop. That's our mantra round here