Performance Based SEO - i3SearchWorx Introduction

[i3SearchWorx]

Good Morning,

New to the forum and thought I'd say hi and introduce myself and the company I work for.

My name is Jamie McKaye, head of Search Marketing at i3Search.Worx (a division of i3media LTD) and we are a performance based SEO firm. We work on a performance basis (no big up front fees) to achieve the rankings our clients require across major search engines online.

We currently work with a real diverse mixture of clients, from Autoglass, the Ministry of Defense, Grand Designs Live, Ideal Home Show - all the way through to Econo-care, Body Perfect Clinic and Buckstyle.

I'd be more than happy to offer any SEO advice or general search marketing advice and look forward to contributing as much as possible to the forum.

Thanks

Jamie McKaye
Head Of Search Marketing
i3Search.Worx

 

Hi Jamie would you like to explain how your SEO performance related system works.

Earl

 

[i3SearchWorx]

Hi Earl,

Our performance based SEO allows companies to see tangible results before they pay us anything. Unfortunately, there are many SEO companies looking to make a quick buck and deliver nothing - after all, it's the results that matter and if we can get the rankings, why wouldn't you pay us?

We have companies that rank number 5 for their phrases, but will pay us on a performance basis to reach between number 3 and 1, on the other hand, we have clients that rank nowhere at all and would like us to gain a presence in the top 3 pages before paying anything - these options would be discussed prior to the campaign.

Thanks Earl

Jamie McKaye
Head of Search Marketing
i3Search.Worx

 

[Ali-v-8]

Let me get this right.
You will optimise a website to page one of google position 1-3 and until then i dont pay a penny.
So for example. I ask you to optimise a website for the term escort D) You will only charge me when hat is in the top three.
Will you maintain that for how long before you request payment.
Would you deal with my onsite seo.
You promise not to use black hat.

Hi Earl,

Our performance based SEO allows companies to see tangible results before they pay us anything. Unfortunately, there are many SEO companies looking to make a quick buck and deliver nothing - after all, it's the results that matter and if we can get the rankings, why wouldn't you pay us?

We have companies that rank number 5 for their phrases, but will pay us on a performance basis to reach between number 3 and 1, on the other hand, we have clients that rank nowhere at all and would like us to gain a presence in the top 3 pages before paying anything - these options would be discussed prior to the campaign.

Thanks Earl

Jamie McKaye
Head of Search Marketing
i3Search.Worx

 

[i3SearchWorx]

Hi Ali,

Thanks for the questions, in essence, yes that is what I am saying, however, due to the competitive nature, we would expect payment on different levels, for example, if we achieved a page 2 ranking you would start to pay us X amount and then if we got to page 1, that would increase to X amount and then if we achieved top 3 on page 1 you would pay X amount.

It's all relative to search volume. A term like escort is extremely competitive and even though I know John Spence from UK Adult Zone (number 1 for Escort) and did some of his link building work (as a self employed consultant) - it will still be some task depending on the current state of the site.

In regards to Onpage SEO - I'd make the recommendations for changes, but wouldn't actually make the changes myself due to liability (if anything were to go wrong with the site etc) but can work very well with a web developer :-D

My main skill is link building and attracting organic links. Good quality links are the way to Google's heart and that's what we pride ourselves on.

What's the URL for the site? Can I have a look?

Jamie McKaye
Head of Search Marketing
i3Search.Worx

 

[Ali-v-8]

Sorry Jamie, I am an seo professional.
2 things i will say.
The way to googles heart is CONTENT.
Links are only secondary to onsite seo.
Page two of google can be achieve by even the basics of seo.
Either you offer page one on a performance basis or you dont.
By what you have said I don't think you do.
The company that you ave listed "i3Search.Worx" doesnt actually exist on the website you mentioned. Is this in development?

Sorry if it seems like i am finding fault. I would like to know more.
Performance means performance. Most of the seo's on here offer the same but not classify it the way that you have.
Please be more clear.

 

[i3SearchWorx]

In regards to the way we conduct our performance based SEO, this why I stated that everything would be discussed prior to the campaign - I.E - If the term for example was 'Dentist in Scunthorpe' we would probably work on the basis of positions 1-3 on the first page - if however, the phrase was lets say 'loans', we would charge from Page 3.

In essence, the whole process is VERY consultative. We learn about the clients business, we look at what they aim to achieve in terms of turnover/traffic and seek to meet these targets.

In regards to the website, yes, it is currently in re-development - we have never offered SEO to anyone other than existing web development clients - so Search.Worx will be stand alone :-D

What we offer is a transparent SEO service and we do things the old fashioned way. We approach webmasters to obtain one way links. No black hat, no software - just traditional SEO methods

Thanks for asking though

 

[i3SearchWorx]

I hope that makes sense.

 

[Ali-v-8]

So to sum up.
You charge a small as appose to "big fee" (by who's standards)
You don't really work on a performance basis.
And you dont implement the work.
And you class page 3 as a result.

My name is Jamie McKaye, head of Search Marketing at i3Search.Worx (a division of i3media LTD) and we are a performance based SEO firm. We work on a performance basis (no big up front fees) to achieve the rankings our clients require across major search engines online.

 

[i3SearchWorx]

Look, I don't know if it's your thing to sit on forums and try to belittle SEO firms, but coming from someone who uses signatures to link build, I think you'd better rethink. Page 3 if you are page 66 isn't a result? Don't implement the work? We DO work on a performance basis - no big up front fee's means NO FEE'S up front - you're just trying to pick holes and I'm looking purely to give people advice and join in some good conversation/topics - and quite frankly, calling yourself an SEO professional is laughable when you feel you need to link build via signatures.

P.S - if you did the onsite optimisation for Nicocig, then you clearly not a clue about onsite SEO and as far as link popularity goes - laughable.

Thanks

Jamie McKaye

 

[Ali-v-8]

Nicocig very happy.
What you wont know is the changes he made with out consulting me.
These had a slight effect on his positions.
Other than that he's a happy chappy.
Link building via my signature. Please don' make assumptions. ask?
No the signature link is nice but i have better formats.


Ps sorry for being a bit osh kosh. I assumed by the manner that you were being sly. If you are doing seo on start up with out payment then this is a good thing for small businesses.

Look, I don't know if it's your thing to sit on forums and try to belittle SEO firms, but coming from someone who uses signatures to link build, I think you'd better rethink. Page 3 if you are page 66 isn't a result? Don't implement the work? We DO work on a performance basis - no big up front fee's means NO FEE'S up front - you're just trying to pick holes and I'm looking purely to give people advice and join in some good conversation/topics - and quite frankly, calling yourself an SEO professional is laughable when you feel you need to link build via signatures.

P.S - if you did the onsite optimisation for Nicocig, then you clearly not a clue about onsite SEO and as far as link popularity goes - laughable.

Thanks

Jamie McKaye

 

[media]

@i3SearchWorx
what you are offering is something that lately most of the SEO companies are offering..
This is a good way for many of the business owners who want to pay on the performance. Good luck

is this is your company http://www.i3media.net/? or you work for them?

 

[Jessies Little Angels]

Hi,

I am a small business and I am having alot of trouble with companies calling me to offer me SEO and the like to get me to the top of Google I also find that most of these companies are full of it!

How can i tell between the good and the bad?

I need good advertising and at good prices, i have already spent alot more than i should and got nothing in return so i am very suspicious of people now!

Thanks

Jessies Little Angels

 

[media]

Hi,

I am a small business and I am having alot of trouble with companies calling me to offer me SEO and the like to get me to the top of Google I also find that most of these companies are full of it!

How can i tell between the good and the bad?

I need good advertising and at good prices, i have already spent alot more than i should and got nothing in return so i am very suspicious of people now!

Thanks

Jessies Little Angels

The best is to check their previous work.
Ask for their previous projects and references.
Ask for the keywords that they have targeted
Ask/Check the popularity and monthly search count of those keywords to see how competitive are these keywords.
Check their website rankings too

 

[Rusty]

I am a small business and I am having alot of trouble with companies calling me to offer me SEO and the like to get me to the top of Google I also find that most of these companies are full of it!

How can i tell between the good and the bad?

Hi

Try this thread, some useful info there that might help avoid the pitfalls of choosing an seo company.

http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=132201

OP - Sorry for the hijack and welcome to the forum, although think the thread was hijacked earlier anyways.

Kerry

 

[i3SearchWorx]

Hi Jessies, I have pmed you - I hope I can help

No worries Rusty - Don't get the whole hijack thing, it's an open forum

 

[paretowasright]

The best is to check their previous work.
Ask for their previous projects and references.
Ask for the keywords that they have targeted
Ask/Check the popularity and monthly search count of those keywords to see how competitive are these keywords.
Check their website rankings too

Yes also ask how many competing pages and page titles there are for each keyword, what the daily phrase search volume is and the click through rate of the keyword...also get them to justify how they will get you on page 1 based on the page rank, backlinks, anchor text count and authority of the existing 10 websites on google page 1 for the given keyword. That should sort the men out from the boys...

 

Yes also ask how many competing pages and page titles there are for each keyword, what the daily phrase search volume is and the click through rate of the keyword...also get them to justify how they will get you on page 1 based on the page rank, backlinks, anchor text count and authority of the existing 10 websites on google page 1 for the given keyword. That should sort the men out from the boys...

Nosey bugger ain't ya.

Simpler to just get a list of Google results from the company across a wide range of products and industries.

Most don't want to know the techno stuff,and some of us ain't to keen on giving away our hard earnt tricks of the trade.:|

or every bugger would be doing it.

Earl

 

[TheSlackers]

I think I'm the first to say on this thread....welcome to the forum.

Ali, you should read your posts back. Well out of order.

 

[paretowasright]

Nosey bugger ain't ya.

Simpler to just get a list of Google results from the company across a wide range of products and industries.

Most don't want to know the techno stuff,and some of us ain't to keen on giving away our hard earnt tricks of the trade.:|

or every bugger would be doing it.

Earl

Earl...just trying to protect people from getting burnt but yes I guess that level of detail could confuse some....and looking at the amount of 'send me a pm' 'sent you a pm' from all these 1-5 posting SEO professionals on here I think every bugger is doing it...or rather try to 'do them'

 

[Ali-v-8]

yes and i said sorry for sounding iffy.
i gave my reason. and sdaid it was a good idea if its what he says it is.

I think I'm the first to say on this thread....welcome to the forum.

Ali, you should read your posts back. Well out of order.

 

[seobarbershop]

Your honesty made me smile- spot on!

 

Earl...just trying to protect people from getting burnt but yes I guess that level of detail could confuse some....and looking at the amount of 'send me a pm' 'sent you a pm' from all these 1-5 posting SEO professionals on here I think every bugger is doing it...or rather try to 'do them'

I know where your coming from,and for the lay person its a very hard job to pick a good un.

I can only say that all the seo stuff I have done has come to me by way of recommendations allied to me showing a few results that I have been lucky enough to have obtained.

But again its a real minefield for a lay person,an SEO showing a top result for say "car parts" does not mean that they can do the same for "bedroom furniture" as so much is dependant on where any given site is before work starts.

I.E coming to a site that has no ranking owing to poor onsite seo ,one may find it has 40,000 links pointing to it.e.t.c

Earl

 

[paretowasright]

Earl...yes totally agree anyone good at SEO will not need to be pushing their services on UK forums and chasing after the slightest hint of work with pm's and demands to 'send them a pm'

 

[i3SearchWorx]

Earl...yes totally agree anyone good at SEO will not need to be pushing their services on UK forums and chasing after the slightest hint of work with pm's and demands to 'send them a pm'

I hope that comment wasn't aimed at me - I'm not here to canvas for business but to make valid contributions to the forum. I simply introduced our company to the forum and why on earth wouldn't I take queries? Are you absolutely bonkers? Some people on here are ludicrous - it seems like there is a great deal of people looking for an argument and not a debate.

<sigh> and... <yawn>

Anyway, back to the original post - thanks for all the 'welcomes' (I think there was one somewhere in the mist)

 

[paretowasright]

I hope that comment wasn't aimed at me - I'm not here to canvas for business but to make valid contributions to the forum. I simply introduced our company to the forum and why on earth wouldn't I take queries? Are you absolutely bonkers? Some people on here are ludicrous - it seems like there is a great deal of people looking for an argument and not a debate.

<sigh> and... <yawn>

Anyway, back to the original post - thanks for all the 'welcomes' (I think there was one somewhere in the mist)

isearchworks that comment was not aimed at you but there are a lot of idiots on here doing exactly as I suggested above as you will see after a while. If your intentions are good then you will find this forum very rewarding and look forward to your contributions. Anyway I better get back to my straightjacket and medication now

 

[Ali-v-8]

Yes welcome. and hope to read more from you.
I liked the comment on social media. You know the right stuff. Most would just hit with SEO and PPC. It was refreshing.

isearchworks that comment was not aimed at you but there are a lot of idiots on here doing exactly as I suggested above as you will see after a while. If your intentions are good then you will find this forum very rewarding and look forward to your contributions. Anyway I better get back to my straightjacket and medication now

 

[BusinessIdeas]

SEO people are a very competitive lot, as you will learn. I am really glad I am not in that business, good luck - Gina

 

[lesliedocherty]

Sorry Jamie, I am an seo professional.
2 things i will say.
The way to googles heart is CONTENT.
Links are only secondary to onsite seo.
Page two of google can be achieve by even the basics of seo.
Either you offer page one on a performance basis or you dont.
By what you have said I don't think you do.
The company that you ave listed "i3Search.Worx" doesnt actually exist on the website you mentioned. Is this in development?

Sorry if it seems like i am finding fault. I would like to know more.
Performance means performance. Most of the seo's on here offer the same but not classify it the way that you have.
Please be more clear.

You, professional in the same sentance, now that did make me chuckle, some of us remember how you and your last employer fell out.

before you start popping at other folk, look at yourself, pofessional & you, very funny

 

You, professional in the same sentance, now that did make me chuckle, some of us remember how you and your last employer fell out.

before you start popping at other folk, look at yourself, pofessional & you, very funny

Well being young does not mean you can not be professional where it counts.

Sure Ali could make a vast improvement to your site.

Earl

 

[lesliedocherty]

im sure he could, and i never mentioned his age, no idea what age he is

 

[InternetMarketingPlatinum]

Hey it isn't all just about positions, it's about conversion too you know.

 

Hey it isn't all just about positions, it's about conversion too you know.

you can't have one without the other.

Earl

 

[lesliedocherty]

if i could only covert 1% more, id be a happy man, 2% more and id even be nice to Ali

 

[DancingWithPoodles]

do you know what is gonna be good "PERFOMANCE BASED ESCORT"

 

do you know what is gonna be good "PERFOMANCE BASED ESCORT"

I believe it is the one with the twin cam engine.

Earl

 

[Ali-v-8]

Looked at your website. The idea of increasing your conversion rate seems like a good challenge. But I don't know your current conversion rate.
Also what's your traffic level.
Reason i ask is if you get only 100 visitors a month an 20 people buy you have 20% rate
If I increased your traffic rate to 1000 and 100 people buy off you, you get 5 times more business but your conversion rate drops.
The thing that should interest you the most is the ROI.

if i could only covert 1% more, id be a happy man, 2% more and id even be nice to Ali

 

[lesliedocherty]

Looked at your website. The idea of increasing your conversion rate seems like a good challenge. But I don't know your current conversion rate.
Also what's your traffic level.
Reason i ask is if you get only 100 visitors a month an 20 people buy you have 20% rate
If I increased your traffic rate to 1000 and 100 people buy off you, you get 5 times more business but your conversion rate drops.
The thing that should interest you the most is the ROI.

We get 1,000 visitors a day, hitting about 1.5% this week, normally hovers around 1%

 

[Ali-v-8]

where is the traffic coming from

 

[i3SearchWorx]

God, this thread still alive?