OCD-Not a real illness ??

Cylon

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Anyone else think this whole OCD thing is just an excuse for people to pretend they have something wrong with them.

Is it just a made up condition for attention seekers to clog up doctors waiting rooms and pretend to be ill.

With the Equality act employers can't even ask if a prospective employee suffers from this nonsense.

Maybe I'm being harsh or perhaps this topic is too sensitive for this forum but really is OCD just a made up ailment for those who have the odd peculiar habit....
 

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I think there are two things here:
OCD as a real, incapacitating and very unpleasant medical condition
OCD as a skiver's excuse.

Real OCD is not a made up condition, skivers OCD is a way to get overworked GPs to sign you off at a higher rate than JSA.
Fake OCD is easy to fake if you are a blagger, just like 'bad back', and not worth the risk of misdiagnosing by the Doctor just in case it's not a skiver.
People who have experienced the real OCD either themselves or by relations or friends would not wish it on anyone.

People diagnosed with OCD can in fact be OCPD, (Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder) which is a form of autism, or within the autism spectrum. Autism diagnoses have risen rapidly over the last decades, altho' there are various theories as to why.

It's a real illness.
 
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Thanks for the reply and no ones got up my nose just the topic came up on a thread in the legal section and I also have friends who claim to have OCD as well but have never found them doing anything out of the ordinary, well apart from excessive cleaning- nothing out the ordinary about having a tidy house.

Is OCD just the cool ailment to have these days as a catch all for any random quirks one might suffer from.

Spent a bit of spare time researching this and even some doctors claim its not a real illness, treatment from this ailment seems to be a talking too + a placebo serotonin inducing medication, or in worst cases electro therapy.

Is there a danger people can believe things they read so much that they can be convinced they have a disability that doesn't even excist.

Is OCD just a way of saying we aren't all the same and sometimes our quirks are what make us individuals.
Surely I'm not the only one who has walked past a hedge, crossed the road and then had to return to the same hedge because I need to touch a leaf on it or bad things will happen if I don't.
 
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People diagnosed with OCD can in fact be OCPD, (Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder) which is a form of autism, or within the autism spectrum. Autism diagnoses have risen rapidly over the last decades, altho' there are various theories as to why.

It's a real illness.
Thanks Nuno that is enlightening, so OCD can be miss-diagnosed quite easily when in fact it maybe a more serious illness.

OCD in itself could have different degrees of affliction from the skiver who wears it as a badge of honour to those who find they have difficulty functioning in day to day life.

Perhaps its just so abused that now anyone I come across who says they have OCD I treat with a pinch of salt, as a real OCD sufferer would never confess to their affliction openly as surely they wouldn't want preferential treatment or to be looked upon with patronising sympathy.
 
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Is there a danger people can believe things they read so much that they can be convinced they have a disability that doesn't even excist.

Certainly people can believe they have a condition when they don't but that doesn't mean that condition can't be real for others. OCD is real.

I wouldn't see why someone with OCD would go to a doctor anyway - what are they going to do for them? Unless they've got OCD about making doctor's appointments.
 
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I was diagnosed as having OCD some years back, there are things that I "have" to do before I can walk away, such as stirring a cup of coffee 12 times... I don't know why, but I just can't drink it if it's not been done, I can't take my Directors brews to them without doing it, if I get called away such as to answer the phone or serve a customer I have to make a fresh brew... Then there's the cleaning side of things once I start I can't stop until I've worked up a sweat, if it's not done in a particular way by someone else I have to jump in and finish it.

There's a few little things which my missus thinks is "sweet" such as I have to use deodorant every hour on the hour, I have to spray air freshener every hour too.

I was also diagnosed as having Depression when I was 15 along with anxiety, I also have a twisted spine, Psoriasis and WPW (Wolf Parkinson White Syndrome) - All these things can cause anyone to "act" differently, it doesn't mean that we're "odd" or wacked out, bizarre - we're just trying to get along like everyone else, we just do things differently. :)

If I'm not as ill as the Doctors claim I am then I deserve an Oscar. ;)

It's not just the likes of OCD that people are attempting to "fake" to get out of work, there are 100's of people claiming for disability yet nothing wrong with them, then you have 100's of people who deserve to receive the disability allowance who can't get it because the Goverment is apparently "Cracking down" yet they appear to be going for those that actually need it... now that's bizarre!
 
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OCD does exsist and even feel a lot of us have it but just at different levels. I used to have it regarding lights in the house...I would check a room I had left upto 5 times to make sure I had turned it off. Obviously there are people who use OCD as a excuse but for those that do really have it, it can be really annoying as you know what you are doing is not right but you feel you HAVE to do it.
 
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I agree there is varying degrees of what could be interpreted as OCD, but sorry checking the light 5 times in a room would fall into my 'just a bit odd' category and even just a quirk that makes you special (i mean special in a unique individual way).
Was there anything else you did that you couldn't stop yourself doing.?

I'm trying to find that magical point where OCD turns from a catch all for quirky behaviour to a disabilitating illness.
 
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hahaha I understand where you are coming from but I would class it as OCD as no it wasnt just fixed to lights (athough lights was the main one). Luckly I dont have OCD anymore or have grown out of it but it was little things like when I shut the fridge door I could go back to it 2-3 times just to check it was shut. Same with locking my front door - my neighbours must have gone mad because I would pull on the door and know it was locked but then feel I had to unlock it and lock it again to make sure. It was horrible!!
 
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Since starting this thread I have started to look at my own habits quite closely.

I don't think I have OCD by the true definition of it but by general ill-infomed societys understanding I just might.

Examples of my OCD (well more just a bit ODD really)

1. I count my house stairs when I walk up them and if I reach the top and don't have the correct number I want to go down them and start again.

2. I lock my car with the bleeper thing but still five minutes later feel the need to do it again even though I know its locked.

3. When I get in from work I put the kettle on- I don't even have a hot drink as i normally go straight on the vodka but still I always put the kettle on.

4. I always flush the toilet when I go into a bathroom-any bathroom it doesn't matter I willl always flush the loo even if I'm not going to use the loo.

I suppose all these shenanigans are just 'ODD' behaviour rather then 'OCD' behaviour as I would be OK if I didn't do them (well apart from the loo flushing I have to do that).

So I suppose the main step to an OCD diagnosis is that you 'have' to do these things rather than just 'want' to do them.

One things for certain you cannot be a 'bit OCD' you either have it or your just a 'bit ODD'.
 
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Since starting this thread I have started to look at my own habits quite closely.

I don't think I have OCD by the true definition of it but by general ill-infomed societys understanding I just might.

Examples of my OCD (well more just a bit ODD really)

1. I count my house stairs when I walk up them and if I reach the top and don't have the correct number I want to go down them and start again.

Does the number of stairs change in your house? :|

2. I lock my car with the bleeper thing but still five minutes later feel the need to do it again even though I know its locked.

Take the battery out of your bleeper and use the key instead, lazybones :D

3. When I get in from work I put the kettle on- I don't even have a hot drink as i normally go straight on the vodka but still I always put the kettle on.

Use the boiled water with some menthol crystals to clear your sinuses

4. I always flush the toilet when I go into a bathroom-any bathroom it doesn't matter I willl always flush the loo even if I'm not going to use the loo.

Stop wasting water

I suppose all these shenanigans are just 'ODD' behaviour rather then 'OCD' behaviour as I would be OK if I didn't do them (well apart from the loo flushing I have to do that).

So I suppose the main step to an OCD diagnosis is that you 'have' to do these things rather than just 'want' to do them.

One things for certain you cannot be a 'bit OCD' you either have it or your just a 'bit ODD'.

You may be surprised to hear that O.D.D. stands for Oppositional Defiance Disorder - are you a bit of a 'one'? :)
 
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We all have quirks and foibles - they are what makes us individuals, gives us our personalities, entertains our friends, irritates our partners, makes us interesting, makes us boring, makes us loveable, likeable or hateable - defines who we are.
Society today is obsessed with labelling people - we need to fit in a box, with the correct codes so that we can be entered into the system that never used to be such a big a deal, but is now the only deal - new labels are being invented everyday, many of which are really negative and, in my view, not helpful.
I'm quite sure both of my sons would have been "diagnosed" with so called conditions - the eldest with ADHD since he never could sit still for two minutes, was easily distracted, poor concentration skills etc ..... he was never problematic to us and I would never have wanted him to have a label which might undermine his confidence, or give him a perceived licence to behave badly and then blame it on his "condition". As a result, whilst his school reports didn't make enjoyable reading from a parent perspective, he was very sporty, very popular, very well liked and actually a lovely kid. As an adult he has worked hard to get where he is in his professional life, he has loads of friends, travels the world, has a great social life and I am incredibly proud of him.
My youngest definitely has OCD traits - has to touch whatever he touches with both hands, has to "file" all his DVDs Comp games etc in alphabetical order, as a one year old all his thomas tank engine trains had to be lined up in number order, go into the box in number order, and out of the box in number order or he'd have a complete paddy; he can focus only on one thing at a time and it becomes an obsession .... he's quirky. A little odd at times, but there's nothing wrong with him, he doesn't need a label, he's in his 3rd year at uni and on track for a good degree, has loads of friends, a great social life, lovely girlfriend etc.
Had either of them been labelled as children I think it would have been extremely unhelpful.
We never had kids with conditions at school when I was young - you had good kids, naughty kids, lively kids, quiet kids, shy kids, aggressive kids, timid kids, funny kids, boring kids, clever kids, thick kids ..... they were just kids. All different, all with value in their own right.
Today's thinking is that all kids should reach the same levels of achievement at the same ages - and if they don't we have to find a reason for it. We can't just accept that people are different. Of course we need the clever kids who will grow up to be scientists and doctors and inventors, the academics who will teach future generations - but we also need the kids who are not academic, they have value too and we should embrace that - we will always need people to go into manual labour, the country would fall apart without farmers, builders, road workers, bin men etc, and yet schools are telling kids they must get an A* in Latin or they can't justify their place on the planet.
Sorry ...... think I just stumbled across a soapbox ..... must be my OCD kicking in :)
 
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I was told at an early age I would never amount to anything, I believe I've proven those people completely wrong so it shows just how much they actually knew at the time.

Everyone, as You've stated Doodle is different and that's the way I like it, the world would be very boring if everyone was the same wouldn't it?

Unless of course we all had Tourette's! :D
 
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Great post Doodle and kudos to your son lining his Thomas Tanks up at such an early age, sure at one year old I was still eating my own poo.

I strongly agree that putting labels on people especially when young just holds back and stifles individual growth.

Proper life restricting OCD should be treated with respect but the shurkers who use it as a badge of honour should just be treated as a bit weird and quite normal in relation to humanity's quirkiness.

Hopefully Simon won't find an illness called WEIRD that points to my demena. ;)
 
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Great post Doodle and kudos to your son lining his Thomas Tanks up at such an early age, sure at one year old I was still eating my own poo.


You did what?!

And you actually remember doing it?

And you had the cheek to say OCD isn't a real illness?

And you then admit to having traits of OCD - or what someone would possibly consider to be traits of OCD?

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

I am slightly bemused :D LOL!
 
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You did what?!

And you actually remember doing it?

And you had the cheek to say OCD isn't a real illness?

And you then admit to having traits of OCD - or what someone would possibly consider to be traits of OCD?

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

I am slightly bemused :D LOL!
I can't put into words how starting a sentence with the word 'And' is messing with my head right now (even if they are nicely lined up), I'm in such a state I don't know whether to tidy my room or wash my hands.

I do think we all have what some would describe as OCD traits to varying degrees and its an illness that is used and abused by today's society leading to genuine sufferers not getting the understanding they deserve.

Anyway my wife has informed me she can no longer deal with my OCD traits so I have asked to leave and slam the door five times on her way out. :)
 
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I can't put into words how starting a sentence with the word 'And' is messing with my head right now (even if they are nicely lined up), I'm in such a state I don't know whether to tidy my room or wash my hands.

I do think we all have what some would describe as OCD traits to varying degrees and its an illness that is used and abused by today's society leading to genuine sufferers not getting the understanding they deserve.

Anyway my wife has informed me she can no longer deal with my OCD traits so I have asked to leave and slam the door five times on her way out. :)


Haha that's a lovely post, made me laugh big time. I'm still struggling from the trauma of thanking Earl for his post too!

Everyone is OCD to some level or another- I'm utterly anal about making sure I know how much my company owes and is owed on a daily basis. Along with an even more anal attention to detail on the condition of what we sell.

So yes, effectively I'm OCD I guess.
 
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Earl you should have a space after a comma, unfortunately I can't put these in for you and highlight them in bold like I want to :p
 
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Why not Simon? :D
 
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You wanted the spaces bolded! Ahh my apologies I read it wrong...

hmm bold the spaces...

perhaps these could help? :D

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Oh great-now my OCD has made me research 'the bold academy'- looks interesting though sort of a life accelerator (last thing I need at my age) with mentors and courses to help you achieve what you want to be in life, reminds me a bit of a cult but looks interesting.
I reserve the right to be very cynical if cash has to change hands at any point to achieve these life asserting mantras or moments of enlightenment.
 
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Hi everyone,
there's some really interesting conversations on here! I wonder if anyone suffering from OCD would mind helping me out? I am involved in a piece of journalism on OCD and we're really looking to hear from maybe one or 2 people who can share their experiences about this debilitating condition. If you would be able to help me on this please contact me on this e-mail below. You can remain completely anonymous or use a pseudonym if you like?

Hope to hear from you.
Ranna
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You can simply message me some answers to the following questions:

1-How does having OCD make you feel emotionally?

2-What obsessive compulsive habits do you practice?

3-Do you feel there is sufficient medical support for OCD sufferers?

4- How long have you been diagnosed with OCD and when and how did it start?

5- How does having OCD affect your day-to-day life?

6- How does OCD affect your mental well-being?

7- Does OCD affect your physical health and if so, how?

8- What treatment do you currently have for your OCD? Is it effective?

9-Are there any side effects to your treatment??

Thanks for any help on this!
 
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1-How does having OCD make you feel emotionally?

A. It doesn't affect me emotionally in any way. I am what I am.

2-What obsessive compulsive habits do you practice?

A. Cleaning, stirring brews 12 times clock-wise, counting stars (takes me all night!), stock control is done within 24 hours though... my Directors love that! :D

3-Do you feel there is sufficient medical support for OCD sufferers?

A. No.

4- How long have you been diagnosed with OCD and when and how did it start?

A. Since I started School.

5- How does having OCD affect your day-to-day life?

A. It doesn't affect my life, it affects other people's lives because they can't come to terms with the fact that there are certain rituals that I have to do.

6- How does OCD affect your mental well-being?

A. It doesn't.

7- Does OCD affect your physical health and if so, how?

A. No.

8- What treatment do you currently have for your OCD? Is it effective?

A. None. I get on with it, plain and simple... if others have an issue with me... tough. :)

9-Are there any side effects to your treatment??

A. N/A
 
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I think OCD is a condition and most people who have OCD will probably not be proud of the fact. It can be a horrible strain on someone's life, taking over most of their time. However I do expect some people will attempt to 'fake it' to maybe get time off work etc but this makes it harder for the real sufferers.
 
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