Nexsan?

[MozzComm]

has anyone here had any dealings with Nexsan?

there not well known so im a bit scepticle but there solutions look good.

anyone use them?

 

[Quest Cloud Solutions Ltd]

Not used them ourselves (as we offer what they do), but we have gained some clients who have left them, apparently not the best customer service...

Edited: They also suffer the same issue as the Microsoft 365 solutions; as they are an American company, the US Government has the right to look at your data with "just cause", even if it is stored in a UK data-centre... some of our clients have to avoid this if they are storing data about their clients as it may contravene the UK Data Protection Act...

 

[MozzComm]

ok what do you have to offer

 

[Quest Cloud Solutions Ltd]

I'm purely answering your question here, not advertising at all!

We do all forms of cloud computing, virtual desktops, virtual private servers, hosted email, hosted backup and disaster recovery solutions; they can be out-of-the-box solutions, or bespoke, designed to your requirements. Basically anything that Nexsan could offer, we can offer.

Hope that helps!

If you've got any questions or want more information about the type of products or solutions you were looking at with Nexsan just ask!

Cheers

Ryan

 

[MozzComm]

I'm purely answering your question here, not advertising at all!

We do all forms of cloud computing, virtual desktops, virtual private servers, hosted email, hosted backup and disaster recovery solutions; they can be out-of-the-box solutions, or bespoke, designed to your requirements. Basically anything that Nexsan could offer, we can offer.

Hope that helps!

If you've got any questions or want more information about the type of products or solutions you were looking at with Nexsan just ask!

Cheers

Ryan

as far as im aware nexsan dont do cloud storage, its primarily tier 2. was looking into a E18 if your familiar?

 

[Quest Cloud Solutions Ltd]

Hmmmm, it was my understanding from some of our resellers that they had used Nexsan for offering cloud backup in the past...? Unless they were referring to their own in-house data-centres they had built using SANs and NAS's provided by Nexsan... will check my sources! As I said, we personally haven't dealt with them, I'm just going on hearsay.

By the E18 I presume you mean the impressive-looking 18 drive RAID storage device? We're aware of them but don't use them, the infrastructure in our server room and in the off-site data-centre we use is all IBM stuff.

What are you looking to build/provide? Are you only looking into on-site hardware or have you looked into the cloud?

Cheers

Ryan

 

[MozzComm]

im not a fan of cloud computing if im honest i like to be able to see something working (old fashioned)

IBM im not a fan of its just all rebadged stuff and the same goes for HP, EMC etc all my research fouund its all the same equipment with a different name.

and the cost of nexsan seems to be around a third of the cost for IBM with much greater capacity - but i want to find someone that has used it first!!

 

[Quest Cloud Solutions Ltd]

Ah, that's our main hurdle to overcome when discussing cloud computing I guess if you actually know what you're doing with IT systems then it makes a *bit* of sense because if it breaks you can possibly fix it yourself straight away; what's frustrating for us is when potential clients want it to be on-site, even though they couldn't do anything for the systems if they broke because they don't have a clue about IT! Haha

Will just plug cloud computing a bit though; bear in mind being in the cloud doesn't have to mean fully hosted with nothing on site - many of the solutions we design just replicate in the cloud what is already on site, for pure disaster recovery and business continuity, as an example.

Will have a look into Nexsan for the future!

Cheers

Ryan

 

[MozzComm]

is there any limitation on the amount of data to be stored?

i mean how much data do you have to backup?

we have alot thats what concerns me

 

[Quest Cloud Solutions Ltd]

There's no limitation - you can choose what you want basically. The main thing we promote with cloud computing is flexibility; you choose how much storage you want, what you backup, how often it backs up, how many days retention you want, what RAID configuration you want (RAID -1 and -0 as standard), and whether you want it stored as a whole image of your system (takes up more space as it saves your programs, settings etc.) or just as file backup.

Bear in mind it is all compressed and encrypted so you wouldn't need as many GBs in the cloud as you have on-site. How much data is A LOT of data?

 

[MozzComm]

if you can help then great! full backup is 12TB wich is run at weekends and incrumentals mon-fri out of business hours og 150GB

retention is either 1 week, 1 month, 1 year 5 year

 

[Quest Cloud Solutions Ltd]

Blimey that IS a lot of data! Not to worry though we will be able to help you with it! Just to confirm, is that 150 GB of new data, or changed data, to be uploaded each week? What is your upload speed? And are you looking to back it up to an image file (including all your programs and settings etc.) or just the individual files?

 

[MozzComm]

Blimey that IS a lot of data! Not to worry though we will be able to help you with it! Just to confirm, is that 150 GB of new data, or changed data, to be uploaded each week? What is your upload speed? And are you looking to back it up to an image file (including all your programs and settings etc.) or just the individual files?

its a mixture of both, and the network is 1gb and probably just individual files - can dedupe be performed into the cloud?

 

[Quest Cloud Solutions Ltd]

A 1 Gb/s network?! Very nice! I guess by your tagline in your signature you're a telecoms company? I presume you're running on a leased line?

What kind of files are you looking to backup? The reason I ask is that the file type affects the rate of compression.

With regards to de-duplication, you would probably de-dupe on your system, and the changes and deleted files would then be reflected on the next backup (presumably the same day). The retention rate as standard is 30 days so if you accidentally deleted the wrong files, you'd have 30 days to retrieve them; as mentioned you can increase the retention period, though this uses more space. You mentioned a retention period of up to 5 years which is fine; the data will stay on the storage devices for as long as you want it to - when I mention retention period I'm referring to how many days you want to reverse any changes you made. Would 30 days as standard be enough for you?

 

[Jameschillman]

Not used them ourselves (as we offer what they do), but we have gained some clients who have left them, apparently not the best customer service...

Have you even looked at what they offer? They are primarly a hardware/software manufacturer!

 

[MozzComm]

new thought!! is ther money to be made in this market??!! technical dimwit but...is it a profitable business?

 

[Jameschillman]

if you can help then great! full backup is 12TB wich is run at weekends and incrumentals mon-fri out of business hours og 150GB

retention is either 1 week, 1 month, 1 year 5 year

Hi,

We can certainly help you out with 12TB worth of backup, We can offer rention/archiving periods of up to 7 years and have a lot of experience with ensuring our clients comply to most industry regulations.

Drop us an email on [email protected] and we can talk about the specifics.

 

[MozzComm]

Love A bit of competition - james, nexsan? used or any dealings with?

 

[Jameschillman]

Love A bit of competition - james, nexsan? used or any dealings with?

Which of Nexsan's product are you looking to use? And is it for backing up the 12TB of data locally?

 

[MozzComm]

yes and an E18

 

[Jameschillman]

yes and an E18

Ok well first of all:

Edited: They also suffer the same issue as the Microsoft 365 solutions; as they are an American company, the US Government has the right to look at your data with "just cause", even if it is stored in a UK data-centre... some of our clients have to avoid this if they are storing data about their clients as it may contravene the UK Data Protection Act...

Ignore this, Completely incorrect, You will be fine running Nexsan hardware to backup to, Its not a cloud service as Ryan suggested.

We don't have any Nexsan kit deployed at the moment although we have seriously looked at it for our next roll out of hardware, The space and power effeciency of the units look great, Not ony that they probably offer one of the best density rates in terms of hard drives in one chassis. (We have been looking at deploying the E60's)

I have heard some great comments about the units and we are looking forward to potentially using them in the future.

 

[Quest Cloud Solutions Ltd]

I shall shoot my reseller cheers for the correction James! I hadn't personally looked at what they offered, which is why I said that I hadn't, and that I was working on hearsay - lesson learnt to double-check my sources in the future! Although as a side point, the issue regarding American based companies offering cloud storage is correct, just not relevant to Nexsan

There certainly is money to be made in online backup, though I would suggest becoming a reseller rather than building your own data-centre (one of my resellers started out doing this with an in-house data-centre he built, but really struggled to convince potential clients that his premises were secure enough).

Will PM you a costing MozzComm.

Cheers

Ryan

 

[MozzComm]

hi james, can you help with an all rouns solution, are you a reseller of backup solutions? if so who do you use? who do you resell

 

[Jameschillman]

hi james, can you help with an all rouns solution, are you a reseller of backup solutions? if so who do you use? who do you resell

Hello,

We are not resellers, we do provide backup solutions using our own hardware etc drop us an email on [email protected] if you want to talk some more about your requirements and costings.