New Logo Needed!

[preciousbags]

Hello all,

Had a logo made when i started the business. It looks terrible in my opinion. Wish i said something then.

We do not display this logo anywhere as we feel it makes our business look ametuer.

If you are a logo creator, please contact us with your pricing?

We need something proffesional

Thank you

Hope i posted this in the right area

 

[Business1Solutions]

I quite like your "Precious Bags" one :|

 

[johnthomas27282]

I would appreciate if you could brief me your business domain. Also, just send me your website URL & the choice of colors. I shall send you a sample, We can take it ahead if you like it
Best Regards
John

 

[preciousbags]

I quite like your "Precious Bags" one :|

Sorry that is my header. I wouldnt know where to start to get that on business cards, invoices, letters etc in the right size without looking squashed.

The logo i had before is not displayed anywhere at all.

 

[jamieclick]

Logo's are what we love working on. Feel free to check out our blog where you will see some different logo designs we have done at http://clickbusinesssolutions.co.uk/blog/

Feel free to contact me on [email protected] and we look forward to hearing from you soon,

Jamie

 

[TotalWebSolutions]

We regularly use a company - Sheffield Design Services - when an ecommerce client requires a website but he also does logo design so might be worth contacting. If you do, tell Jonathan Simon at Total Web sent you.

Thanks

Simon

 

[gavcooper]

We can help Red Square Creative PM with costs sent.

 

[KreativeJuice]

Hi,

Pm with details on its way.

Kind regards
Karen

 

[Andrew @ PLA]

I can highly recommend Karen @ Kreative Juice. She created a logo for my previous business and was very happy with the level of service I received from her.

 

[IInfluence]

Go to a website called 99designs.com

It'll cost you next to nothing and you'll be able to choose for a fair few specially designed ones just for your company.

Added to the fact that you'll get a number of different creative ideas.

Hope this helps
Alex

 

[gavcooper]

Go to a website called 99designs.com

It'll cost you next to nothing and you'll be able to choose for a fair few specially designed ones just for your company.

Added to the fact that you'll get a number of different creative ideas.

Hope this helps
Alex

Another post recommending a slave trade website, asking designers to produce spec work on the off chance they may get paid. Thanks Alex and it's your first post here, please visit this site for me and the other designers on this forum NO!SPEC

 

[Scott-Copywriter]

Is it just me who is curious/nosey about what the original logo looks like?

 

[IInfluence]

Another post recommending a slave trade website, asking designers to produce spec work on the off chance they may get paid. Thanks Alex and it's your first post here, please visit this site for me and the other designers on this forum

I can fully understand why a designer wouldn't like the site.

Some of those slaves on there earn more in one job than they can in 3 months back in their own country. Look at it more as a competition site and your opinion will alter somewhat.

Each to their own, but it's an option for the opening poster.

I'll have a look at you link when I get a chance later.

Cheers.

 

[Deleted member 88701]

Sent you a private message

 

[preciousbags]

Thanks all. Have now purchase one.

 

[gavcooper]

Look at it more as a competition site and your opinion will alter somewhat.

I can't see how my opinion will change.

These sites exploit designers and devalue the design industry as a whole. A client should chose a designer based on their portfolio and after a meeting or other form of communication. They should then be able to tell if they can work together to achieve the clients goals.

Would you ask several carpenters to build you a cabinet and only pay one?

I apologise to the OP for taking the focus away from their original request.

 

[Deleted member 88701]

I can't see how my opinion will change.

These sites exploit designers and devalue the design industry as a whole. A client should chose a designer based on their portfolio and after a meeting or other form of communication. They should then be able to tell if they can work together to achieve the clients goals.

Would you ask several carpenters to build you a cabinet and only pay one?

I apologise to the OP for taking the focus away from their original request.

I absolutely agree. We are professionals and true branding design takes a long time. However I don't think we want the sort of client that is willing to compromise their brand by giving it to the lowest bidder.

 

[IInfluence]

I can't see how my opinion will change.

These sites exploit designers and devalue the design industry as a whole. A client should chose a designer based on their portfolio and after a meeting or other form of communication. They should then be able to tell if they can work together to achieve the clients goals.

Would you ask several carpenters to build you a cabinet and only pay one?

I apologise to the OP for taking the focus away from their original request.

Lots of industries do lots of work before a job is given to them and never get paid for it.

My father does tenders for an electrical business, lots of the time they never win them, they've gone to expense and time to do those tenders and then get told they are going with another company. What is the difference?

I don't really want to come here an cause an argument, so we maybe better off agreeing to disagree.

 

[Deleted member 88701]

Lots of industries do lots of work before a job is given to them and never get paid for it.

My father does tenders for an electrical business, lots of the time they never win them, they've gone to expense and time to do those tenders and then get told they are going with another company. What is the difference?

I don't really want to come here an cause an argument, so we maybe better off agreeing to disagree.

I think the difference here is that a tender is a document saying you can do the work, this is actually doing all of the work and then hoping to get paid. I do agree that you have to do some work to have a chance at winning some work though!

 

[IInfluence]

I think the difference here is that a tender is a document saying you can do the work, this is actually doing all of the work and then hoping to get paid. I do agree that you have to do some work to have a chance at winning some work though!

Well if I used the site I'd use my initial choice as something to work with, it's almost certainly not going to be the finished article, so in effect you could treat those logo designs as tenders, it all depends on your viewpoint really.

If you were going to get full on branding done then I'd speak to a local design agency, but for someone starting a new business on limited funds they aren't going to have that sort of money.

As I say, I don't want to come here to start an argument so I'll leave it now.

 

[Jeff Knows]

I can't see how my opinion will change.

These sites exploit designers and devalue the design industry as a whole. A client should chose a designer based on their portfolio and after a meeting or other form of communication. They should then be able to tell if they can work together to achieve the clients goals.

Would you ask several carpenters to build you a cabinet and only pay one?

I apologise to the OP for taking the focus away from their original request.

If they all know that's the deal from the off then.. yes?

They are hardly chained to a desk being whipped to design logo's. There is nothing stopping those people starting up on their own. Perhaps they prefer the challenge of competition or the near constant turn over of new prospects?

Not everyone in your industry has to treat it with the same level of theater you do. For some people it may not require some kind of lengthy bonding exercise to come up with something passable the customer likes.

 

[IInfluence]

If they all know that's the deal from the off then.. yes?

They are hardly chained to a desk being whipped to design logo's. There is nothing stopping those people starting up on their own. Perhaps they prefer the challenge of competition or the near constant turn over of new prospects?

Not everyone in your industry has to treat it with the same level of theater you do. For some people it may not require some kind of lengthy bonding exercise to come up with something passable the customer likes.

Ha ha ha. Atleast I'll no longer be enemy number one in this thread.

 

[gavcooper]

If they all know that's the deal from the off then.. yes?

They are hardly chained to a desk being whipped to design logo's. There is nothing stopping those people starting up on their own. Perhaps they prefer the challenge of competition or the near constant turn over of new prospects?

Not everyone in your industry has to treat it with the same level of theater you do. For some people it may not require some kind of lengthy bonding exercise to come up with something passable the customer likes.

My problem is not with the designers, as you say they choose to work for free. But the websites which turn design into a game.

 

[Esk247]

It cheapens the product by making it look like anyone with photoshop or illustrator can design a logo. It's the same with photos, you can get high quality, glossy photos on istock for £5 and then people expect it to cost exactly £5 to have a professional shoot done in their home..they're shocked when the price tag is more like 5 grand.

 

[IInfluence]

It cheapens the product by making it look like anyone with photoshop or illustrator can design a logo. It's the same with photos, you can get high quality, glossy photos on istock for £5 and then people expect it to cost exactly £5 to have a professional shoot done in their home..they're shocked when the price tag is more like 5 grand.

Anyone with Photoshop or Illistrator can make a logo, the same as anyone with a camera can take a photo. It's like giving someone a canvas and paints and asking for a painting, I could do it but no one would pay any money for it, whereas Michealangelo could do it and be worth millions. However we'll have both created a painting at the end of the day.

It all depends on what you class as a quality logo/photo surely. Which is pretty subjective. If you've got a customer who wants to pay £5 for a photo that's taken you lots of effort, time and skill then I suggest you need to educate your customer or just put him down as a waste of time for you business. He won't be the first and won't be the last either.

 

[Jeff Knows]

It cheapens the product by making it look like anyone with photoshop or illustrator can design a logo. It's the same with photos, you can get high quality, glossy photos on istock for £5 and then people expect it to cost exactly £5 to have a professional shoot done in their home..they're shocked when the price tag is more like 5 grand.

... anyone with photoshop can make a logo. It may not be up to professional standards or have the same final finish but it's still a logo and if a person is willing to pay for it, then use it on their project why does it deserve any less recognition than what you do?

Design is subjective. Entirely. It's not quantifiable and nobody is in a position to irrefutably say one logo is better than another.

You can't just dismiss a business simply because they don't live up to your own standards. Your own standards don't define the industry, quite frankly nobody cares what your standards are. There is room enough for both methods, both are equally as valid and both make their customers equally as happy.

Don't you think it's a little offensive to belittle and diminish these people simply because they don't meet your criteria? What exactly is it that gives you the authority to proclaim how they do business is in some way wrong? Honestly as far as I can see the only authority you have, you seem to have made up yourself.

Trade and let trade. If you can't properly communicate to customers why you are better than these onestop shops it has absolutely nothing to do with them somehow contaminating the market. You are not exactly helping your cause by being so defensive about the issue. If you were secure in your own business plan and industry method you wouldn't bother your shirt about these people.

 

[am:pm graphics]

Hi

We have two logo design packages...It looks like you might be sorted now though. If not feel free to get in touch.

Pauline

 

[Esk247]

Anyone with Photoshop or Illistrator can make a logo, the same as anyone with a camera can take a photo. It's like giving someone a canvas and paints and asking for a painting, I could do it but no one would pay any money for it, whereas Michealangelo could do it and be worth millions. However we'll have both created a painting at the end of the day.

It all depends on what you class as a quality logo/photo surely. Which is pretty subjective. If you've got a customer who wants to pay £5 for a photo that's taken you lots of effort, time and skill then I suggest you need to educate your customer or just put him down as a waste of time for you business. He won't be the first and won't be the last either.

no i mean it gives the wrong impression of the industry. If people look at a price tag of £5 on a design and then you quote 5k for the same style of product they'll chunter to themselves as they cannot see the difference until they've paid for both and compared the two.

you quite often get people saying 'why can't you do a website for a tenner, this student in Scotland said it only costs a tenner and he'll knock it up for me after school tomorrow..you should do it for a tenner..go on..quick'

of course it depends on quality but people are very price aware these days and they don't want to think they're being taken for a ride.

 

[Esk247]

... anyone with photoshop can make a logo. It may not be up to professional standards or have the same final finish but it's still a logo and if a person is willing to pay for it, then use it on their project why does it deserve any less recognition than what you do?

Design is subjective. Entirely. It's not quantifiable and nobody is in a position to irrefutably say one logo is better than another.

You can't just dismiss a business simply because they don't live up to your own standards. Your own standards don't define the industry, quite frankly nobody cares what your standards are. There is room enough for both methods, both are equally as valid and both make their customers equally as happy.

Don't you think it's a little offensive to belittle and diminish these people simply because they don't meet your criteria? What exactly is it that gives you the authority to proclaim how they do business is in some way wrong? Honestly as far as I can see the only authority you have, you seem to have made up yourself.

Trade and let trade. If you can't properly communicate to customers why you are better than these onestop shops it has absolutely nothing to do with them somehow contaminating the market. You are not exactly helping your cause by being so defensive about the issue. If you were secure in your own business plan and industry method you wouldn't bother your shirt about these people.

what are you on about? i mean that it damages the industry as a whole to have forever tiny costs in comparison to those who spend a very long time crafting the perfect logo that will work with a variety of backgrounds and layouts or across the side of your lovely new van.

a £5 logo is highly unlikely to achieve this but when people look at the two price tags, 1 for £5 and 1 for £500 they'll scratch their heads...they cannot understand why you have to charge £500..this fella from Korea can do it for 50 pence..why can't you do it for 50 pence..it will only take ya 10 minutes on photoslap or whatever ya call it matey! come on..chop chop..i've got businesses to run!

 

[IInfluence]

no i mean it gives the wrong impression of the industry. If people look at a price tag of £5 on a design and then you quote 5k for the same style of product they'll chunter to themselves as they cannot see the difference until they've paid for both and compared the two.

you quite often get people saying 'why can't you do a website for a tenner, this student in Scotland said it only costs a tenner and he'll knock it up for me after school tomorrow..you should do it for a tenner..go on..quick'

of course it depends on quality but people are very price aware these days and they don't want to think they're being taken for a ride.

Mate you are selling websites for £99, exactly the same could be said of that. I've sold websites for over £8k.

 

[Esk247]

Mate you are selling websites for £99, exactly the same could be said of that. I've sold websites for over £8k.

well exactly, because those are the prices people are beginning to expect a lot of the time.

an 8k website will have a hell of a lot more features than a £99 website but people still tend to see price above functionality and the effort taken in design.