Need investment ideas!

Kabsie

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Hi guys, long time reader first time poster!

I'm about to commence my final third year at university, and have £2000 that I want to invest, preferably online in some way but thats not compulsary.

I just want your takes on my ideas, and any recommendations you guys have!

I've thought of;

Starting a blog
Trading on online auction sites
inventing something and selling it online.

Any advice or ideas would be much appreciated as I want to get this ball rolling :cool:

Kabsie.
 

Kabsie

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A much better approach would be to try hard to think of some ideas yourself and if you want - propose them for an evaluation on here. I don't think you can extract much value from the way you are approaching this

Okay,

if i could source a wholesaler of a fairly indemand product, would you say it was a good idea to start trading on a site like eBay?
 
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ronnie7272

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Okay,

if i could source a wholesaler of a fairly indemand product, would you say it was a good idea to start trading on a site like eBay?

I second becoming an ebay trader.

Making money is about buying and selling. The trick is to buy at the right price as you will always be able to sell, and if you need to write down the stock you won't be losing too much as you have bought at a low price.

With £2k in my pocket, I would probably budget £200 a month to buy stock and make £500 a month in sales as starters and so on and so forth. Once your cashflow improves and you have a better understanding of various markets, products and sources you can up the stakes as your confidence improves.

If you are completely uncertain of what to buy and sell and have no idea about research then go with a low cost trial and error approach. Go to a car boot sale and buy any rubbish which you think you can at least double/triple your money. Make it fun to begin with and keep to a maximum purchase price e.g. £5. Haggling is easy at car boot sales so bring the price the price down as much as you can. Try to specialise on items which are easy and low cost to package, ship and sell.

Let's say in your first month you spend £200 and pull in £150 i.e. you have made a loss of £50. Rather than look at this as a loss, see if as £50 investment in training and you will improve in month 2,3,4 etc.

The big question is how quickly can you learn to become an ebay trader and receive income at your desired level, without taking too much money out of your working capital as salary.
 
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Kabsie

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I second becoming an ebay trader.

Making money is about buying and selling. The trick is to buy at the right price as you will always be able to sell, and if you need to write down the stock you won't be losing too much as you have bought at a low price.

With £2k in my pocket, I would probably budget £200 a month to buy stock and make £500 a month in sales as starters and so on and so forth. Once your cashflow improves and you have a better understanding of various markets, products and sources you can up the stakes as your confidence improves.

If you are completely uncertain of what to buy and sell and have no idea about research then go with a low cost trial and error approach. Go to a car boot sale and buy any rubbish which you think you can at least double/triple your money. Make it fun to begin with and keep to a maximum purchase price e.g. £5. Haggling is easy at car boot sales so bring the price the price down as much as you can. Try to specialise on items which are easy and low cost to package, ship and sell.

Let's say in your first month you spend £200 and pull in £150 i.e. you have made a loss of £50. Rather than look at this as a loss, see if as £50 investment in training and you will improve in month 2,3,4 etc.

The big question is how quickly can you learn to become an ebay trader and receive income at your desired level, without taking too much money out of your working capital as salary.

Thanks my man, thats the sort of response im looking for!

Judging on what youve wrote can I assume you have some experience with eBay? if so, what was it it like for you when you first began trading? are there any types of products you would advise to stay away from? any info is much appreciated.

Also are web based wholesalers such as Salehoo or tradekey worth researching, or would you suggest warehouses?

Cheers
 
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ronnie7272

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Thanks my man, thats the sort of response im looking for!

Judging on what youve wrote can I assume you have some experience with eBay? if so, what was it it like for you when you first began trading? are there any types of products you would advise to stay away from? any info is much appreciated.

Also are web based wholesalers such as Salehoo or tradekey worth researching, or would you suggest warehouses?

Cheers

I have bought and sold product at all levels, locally and globally, face to face, over the telephone and over the internet. The principles of profitable buying and selling with a budget of £2k capital is no different from having a budget of £20million. As far as sources are concerned, be open-minded and creative. The more creative you are the better gems you will find. If you just use the same sources as everyone else, then you will have little advantage over your competitors.

Have you thought about approaching your local shops/cash and carries/wholesalers/businesses and asking if they have any goods they would like to shift? Many businesses are still suffering from the recession and need to shift stock, free up storage space, and bring cash into their bank account. This is prime time to knock on doors either face to face or over the telephone.

Try to obtain samples of some goods on a sale or return basis which will reduce your cost commitments. The type of goods you might obtain might range from an assortment of bits and pieces to cases and cases of the same item. Only you can be the judge of what to buy or what to take on a sale or return basis.

Think about your sales channel. Ebay is only one. If you feel like being a sales person then try and flip some deals e.g. you have 100 cases of a certain toy to move, take one case with 10 toys as samples. Go to different shops and outlets literally knocking on doors to see if they will buy some or if you can leave the samples there for them to try to shift. You might find a poundstore who will take the lot. If it cost you £1000 to buy 100 cases including delivery and you can sell the lot for £1500, then you have done a nice little flip deal with 50% margin. Obviously if you can make 400%, even better.

You could try to sell your items on a one by one basis and make higher margins. In my final year at uni, I bought cases of butchers trousers (red and white stripes) at various sizes at riduclously low prices from a local wholesaler. He was desparate to get rid of stock he couldn't clear. They were about 20 pence a piece. I drove my Metro straight to the student union, opened up the boot and sold them for whatever I could. They sold like hot cakes. To be fair, I think the student union would have been the only place I could have sold butchers trousers as fashion items. BTW you need a pedlars/hawkers license if you wish to sell on the streets.

Go to recycling websites and see if you can pick up anything for free.

I can't give you all the answers and training you need but hopefully I have given you some ideas. You will make some mistakes. Losses are fine as long as you learn and you make an overall profit with your other deals. In your situation where you are buying and selling anything that comes along to anyone who is willing to buy, the golden rule is to always buy cheap. If the price isn't right don't buy. Also don't buy anything which is illegal or stolen.

Until you have developed sales channels and sources, I can't really answer your question of what to buy or what not to buy. I used to sell anything for the right price. You will always find a buyer at the right price. I wouldn't buy heavy furnture to sell on ebay, but I might flip a deal locally with the help of a friend and a van.

Since you are still at uni, you have a great opportunity to sell directly to students. Just be creative, open minded and have fun.

Once you have built up some capital you will probably want to focus more on certain products and markets rather than spot buy and sell anything and everything from anyone to anyone. However, this is good self-training and experience.

A tip for ebay. If you are selling any technical items (electronics) with specifications etc. Think about making and uploading a video. Becareful selling second hand or even new electrical items. You must be clear about whether the item is sold as working, with a guarantee blah blah blah. At your level, I would stay away from any item where they could be a high level of return. Returns is one of the main problems of ecommerce trading. The best ecommerce shops spend a huge budget on high resolution 360 degree zoom in zoom out photos and videos etc. to reduce returns.

If you are still uncertain on how to go about being an ebay trader, simply create a Paypal account, an ebay account and sell anything you can see in front of you on your desk right now or in any room in your house. Stick a low reserve rate and just sell it so you can experience the processes involved. You will need to build a good star rating so try to sell lots of cheap high run rate products to begin with. It doesn't really matter if all you are making is 50 pence a deal right now or just break even. You need your star ratings. Of course if you can make lots of money early on, even better.

Good luck.

Ronnie
 
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Kabsie

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I have bought and sold product at all levels, locally and globally, face to face, over the telephone and over the internet. The principles of profitable buying and selling with a budget of £2k capital is no different from having a budget of £20million. As far as sources are concerned, be open-minded and creative. The more creative you are the better gems you will find. If you just use the same sources as everyone else, then you will have little advantage over your competitors.

Have you thought about approaching your local shops/cash and carries/wholesalers/businesses and asking if they have any goods they would like to shift? Many businesses are still suffering from the recession and need to shift stock, free up storage space, and bring cash into their bank account. This is prime time to knock on doors either face to face or over the telephone.

Try to obtain samples of some goods on a sale or return basis which will reduce your cost commitments. The type of goods you might obtain might range from an assortment of bits and pieces to cases and cases of the same item. Only you can be the judge of what to buy or what to take on a sale or return basis.

Think about your sales channel. Ebay is only one. If you feel like being a sales person then try and flip some deals e.g. you have 100 cases of a certain toy to move, take one case with 10 toys as samples. Go to different shops and outlets literally knocking on doors to see if they will buy some or if you can leave the samples there for them to try to shift. You might find a poundstore who will take the lot. If it cost you £1000 to buy 100 cases including delivery and you can sell the lot for £1500, then you have done a nice little flip deal with 50% margin. Obviously if you can make 400%, even better.

You could try to sell your items on a one by one basis and make higher margins. In my final year at uni, I bought cases of butchers trousers (red and white stripes) at various sizes at riduclously low prices from a local wholesaler. He was desparate to get rid of stock he couldn't clear. They were about 20 pence a piece. I drove my Metro straight to the student union, opened up the boot and sold them for whatever I could. They sold like hot cakes. To be fair, I think the student union would have been the only place I could have sold butchers trousers as fashion items. BTW you need a pedlars/hawkers license if you wish to sell on the streets.

Go to recycling websites and see if you can pick up anything for free.

I can't give you all the answers and training you need but hopefully I have given you some ideas. You will make some mistakes. Losses are fine as long as you learn and you make an overall profit with your other deals. In your situation where you are buying and selling anything that comes along to anyone who is willing to buy, the golden rule is to always buy cheap. If the price isn't right don't buy. Also don't buy anything which is illegal or stolen.

Until you have developed sales channels and sources, I can't really answer your question of what to buy or what not to buy. I used to sell anything for the right price. You will always find a buyer at the right price. I wouldn't buy heavy furnture to sell on ebay, but I might flip a deal locally with the help of a friend and a van.

Since you are still at uni, you have a great opportunity to sell directly to students. Just be creative, open minded and have fun.

Once you have built up some capital you will probably want to focus more on certain products and markets rather than spot buy and sell anything and everything from anyone to anyone. However, this is good self-training and experience.

A tip for ebay. If you are selling any technical items (electronics) with specifications etc. Think about making and uploading a video. Becareful selling second hand or even new electrical items. You must be clear about whether the item is sold as working, with a guarantee blah blah blah. At your level, I would stay away from any item where they could be a high level of return. Returns is one of the main problems of ecommerce trading. The best ecommerce shops spend a huge budget on high resolution 360 degree zoom in zoom out photos and videos etc. to reduce returns.

If you are still uncertain on how to go about being an ebay trader, simply create a Paypal account, an ebay account and sell anything you can see in front of you on your desk right now or in any room in your house. Stick a low reserve rate and just sell it so you can experience the processes involved. You will need to build a good star rating so try to sell lots of cheap high run rate products to begin with. It doesn't really matter if all you are making is 50 pence a deal right now or just break even. You need your star ratings. Of course if you can make lots of money early on, even better.

Good luck.

Ronnie


Ronnie, your a legend. I'll try to start peddling as many items as possible on eBay if only to boost my rating, because a few people have said its important.

If I was to stick with small to medium priced (£1-100) items, do you have any fairly modest projections I can set myself to hit?

Cheers bro
 
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ronnie7272

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Ronnie, your a legend. I'll try to start peddling as many items as possible on eBay if only to boost my rating, because a few people have said its important.

If I was to stick with small to medium priced (£1-100) items, do you have any fairly modest projections I can set myself to hit?

Cheers bro

If you want to push up your ratings, I would even go as far as listing extremely cheaply sourced items (costing pennies) and selling at a minimum reserve of £1. Some ebayers will sell at no reserve and just add 50 pence to the P&P as profit i.e. they are not making profit from buying and selling product, they are making money from P&P.

I'm not going to advise you on which type of items to source and sell. I think this is a skillset and knowledge you need to develop yourself. Spending hours going through ebay and learning how to use all their advanced tools will give you extra confidence and knowledge. One of the biggest lessons you will learn is crap sells for the right price.

Becareful of any item with use by dates e.g. food, cosmetics etc.

Also becareful of computer type product e.g. memory cards, usb memory sticks etc. The reason I say this is because these products have price drops and become obselete. You have to sell these fast before a bigger and better version comes out at a price which makes your existing stock look expensive. If you carry stock of obselete items, you may need to write the stock value down in your books or simply make a loss on deals. Either way, your business loses money. Alternatively be creative and bundle these type of products together so it becomes difficult to compare like for like pricing.

Ronnie
 
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jonboy11

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Hi guys, long time reader first time poster!

I'm about to commence my final third year at university, and have £2000 that I want to invest, preferably online in some way but thats not compulsary.

I just want your takes on my ideas, and any recommendations you guys have!

I've thought of;

Starting a blog
Trading on online auction sites
inventing something and selling it online.

Any advice or ideas would be much appreciated as I want to get this ball rolling :cool:

Kabsie.

well what did u study at uni?
 
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