Me getting annoyed at the big boys.

[bigkendo]

I've been getting really p****d off recently with some national and multi national companies moving into my business sector , I mean Tesco ( and others) moving into fitting double glazing .

I know they seem to be into everything , but if their prepared to get into fitting windows and conservatories what will they stop at.

So yesterday i bought a couple of domain names whitch i actually thought they would have already owned , i know theres a lot of issues surrounding things like cyber squatting etc , but right now i don't care , they obviously don't care about the small guy.

So can anyone tell me the best way of making an income from these couple of domains.

 

[Subbynet]

It surprises me all the time that Tesco are entering such and such a market. Double Glazing was a sector I'd have deemed safe from them, but it appears not.

It's hard to advise without knowing the names of the domains. Maybe the best way to create income is just to keep them out of the hands of Tesco for as long as possible.

Feel free to pm me the domain names if you don't wish to post them publicly, and I'll give any advice I can.

 

[nitro23456]

A few years ago I bought a mispell of tesco.com and pretended that I had bought it to host my family photo albums on it.

I contacted them to tell them how suprised I was at the amount of traffic it got and only then did I 'realise' it was a mispel.

Anyway, I managed to get a couple of grand for it in the end (small change to them). Checking today after reading this I notice they have let it drop!

Might do it again

 

[bigkendo]

Brilliant - Tell me , How do you mispell Tesco

 

[nitro23456]

By getting the letters in the wrong order of course!!!

Traffic came from people typing it in too quickly in their address bars. Didn't get that much traffic in the big scheme of things to be fair, but it worked.

 

[marketingquotes]

the idiots - what a waste of £2K.

Does not surprise me that Tesco are moving into other areas, in Europe they sell car tyres in their stores, so pretty soon they will be a one stop shop.

 

[garyscottadamson]

Tesco have every right to move into any sector that they deem profitable. As do you.

Business is all about stepping on peoples toes - it's what makes us all competitive. If Tesco can offer a better deal than you - then why should such deal not be open to the customer.

The customer always has the ability to choose. And if they choose you over tesco then tesco will go bankrupt or visa versa.

We live in a free market economy. It's a beautiful thing. It sometimes hurts us - but it gives us the freedom to make so much money at the same time.

 

[PromoAde]

It's a beautiful thing.

 

[bigkendo]

And that is why all our high streets are lying empty or are full of bookies & takeaways .

No one is denying they have the right to move into other sectors , but do they really need to.

In a few years there may be no need for any other business , absolutley everything you could possibly want Tesco will sell it , and everyone will just work for them. So you work for them , they pay you , then you spend all your money in the shop , wow what a circle that's going to be.

 

[deniser]

Tesco have every right to move into any sector that they deem profitable. As do you.

We live in a free market economy. It's a beautiful thing. It sometimes hurts us - but it gives us the freedom to make so much money at the same time.

We are supposed to have competition law which prevents companies getting into dominant positions and then abusing those positions. It doesn't seem that these are always enforced.

 

[Multi-store]

Sounds to me like Tesco are monopolising, does anyone thing that because of companies like this, this is what is causing our recession in the first place?

every area tesco move into, they are destroying small business's that operate in the sector, and anybody looking to start business in that area wont bother due to tesco offering everything cheaper.

i dont want to live in a, eat,work,sleep,spend,live TESCO world!

 

[Subbynet]

Tesco have every right to move into any sector that they deem profitable. As do you.

True, but they need to be very careful about how they enter new markets, otherwise they can be done for Anti-Competitive Leverage under UK/EU law.

 

[PromoAde]

And that is why all our high streets are lying empty or are full of bookies & takeaways .

No one is denying they have the right to move into other sectors , but do they really need to.

In a few years there may be no need for any other business , absolutley everything you could possibly want Tesco will sell it , and everyone will just work for them. So you work for them , they pay you , then you spend all your money in the shop , wow what a circle that's going to be.

You've painted a terrifying, yet true picture of our future. A free market encourages the bigger companies to completely walk over smaller suppliers, empty the high streets, which in turn ruins communities. Usually with more than a helping hand from the government.

 

[bigkendo]

The coalition goverments Green deal is exactly why Tesco ( and others) are getting into this market.

 

[MrCloser]

Most of tescos new 'products' are just the tesco brand subcontracted out to an established commpany with a few rubbishy club card points added on.

Although tesco can compete in any market they want, in reality it is hardly a level playing field with all their buying power, also needing lengthy credit terms and then demanding retrospective discounts is pretty shady business.

A lot of private fuel retailers have closed over the last decade thanks to Tescos, they would get into a local price war with local competitors for just as long as it took them to make them sell up or go out of business, then the prices go back up ...(and the weights and measures pump delivery calibration might be a little out...

Far from increasing competition, it just reduces it. The identikit High streets and Tesco towns that Britain has become has more in common with communism than capitalism imo, with tesco being the state, and the capitalists anyone trying to compete against them.

Also with fewer competitors, they can 'compete' and keep their profit margins up

 

[Nuno]

Why is it always Tesco? Why don't people name and blame Sainsbury? Asda, Morrison? Even Waitrose who are reputedly the toughest negotiators?
Why always those? What about Amazon, Arcadia, Dixons Group?

Because we all think we can live in a lovely, comfortable, soft focus world with warm scones for tea. And all for next to nothing while we work on the High Street, (cobbled and thatched, natch), for large salaries to pay for new kitchens, SUVs and two holidays a year.

Well we can't. But we can do retail, (somebody once said something about a nation of shopkeepers..), and modern retail is Tesco. And Sainsbury, Morrison etc. All of whom compete fiercely with each other, not to give punters the lowest prices but to maximise returns to shareholders. At least it is something we are good at, as we seemed to have failed the Banking GCSE, so why pick on one example, why pick on success, and why whinge about good businesses on a Business forum?

 

[Esk247]

Well we can't. But we can do retail, (somebody once said something about a nation of shopkeepers..), and modern retail is Tesco. And Sainsbury, Morrison etc. All of whom compete fiercely with each other, not to give punters the lowest prices but to maximise returns to shareholders. At least it is something we are good at, as we seemed to have failed the Banking GCSE, so why pick on one example, why pick on success, and why whinge about good businesses on a Business forum?

probably because Tesco, unlike the others, appear to be very good at bullying tactics. Whether that be in planning laws or buying in products.

they're about to open another tesco near here, strange, because morrisons wanted to expand but weren't allowed as it was deemed anti competitive. the Coop had to sell one of their stores after taking over Somerfield because it was deemed...anti competitive. Yet tesco, somehow, are allowed to open a new mega store within 2 miles of the other mega store (24 hours ofcourse) they also have 2 mini supermarkets in the same town yet the other supermarkets had planning applications turned down.

did you also see panorama (think it was) where the big four have been very good at effectively price fixing and the famous 2 for 1 offer e.g. 2 for £2.00 even though they are £1.00 each anyway, saving..zero.

just a couple of reasons why tesco is singled out for criticism.

all of the supermarkets are competitive in some way but tesco literally crushes all opposition with unfair advantages then pushes the prices up beyond what they were originally. tesco are also one of the few supermarkets to enter virtually ALL retail and services sectors. they control...everything! mobile phone? tesco, broadband? tesco, insurance? tesco, shopping? tesco, double glazing? tesco, banking? tesco, movie rental? tesco, furniture? tesco...need i go on?

 

[QuickHomeBuyers]

I wonder what are their plans on entering property market?

 

[british steve]

I like Tesco.com - To date we have still not found anyone else who will deliver stale bread and over ripe bananas directly to our door!

And charge us for delivery....

 

[tel_]

TBH I was in the position of Tesco's I would bend my competitors, supplies & customers over & **** them to within an inch of their lives

 

[MrCloser]

probably because Tesco, unlike the others, appear to be very good at bullying tactics. Whether that be in planning laws or buying in products.

they're about to open another tesco near here, strange, because morrisons wanted to expand but weren't allowed as it was deemed anti competitive. the Coop had to sell one of their stores after taking over Somerfield because it was deemed...anti competitive. Yet tesco, somehow, are allowed to open a new mega store within 2 miles of the other mega store (24 hours ofcourse) they also have 2 mini supermarkets in the same town yet the other supermarkets had planning applications turned down.

did you also see panorama (think it was) where the big four have been very good at effectively price fixing and the famous 2 for 1 offer e.g. 2 for £2.00 even though they are £1.00 each anyway, saving..zero.

just a couple of reasons why tesco is singled out for criticism.

all of the supermarkets are competitive in some way but tesco literally crushes all opposition with unfair advantages then pushes the prices up beyond what they were originally. tesco are also one of the few supermarkets to enter virtually ALL retail and services sectors. they control...everything! mobile phone? tesco, broadband? tesco, insurance? tesco, shopping? tesco, double glazing? tesco, banking? tesco, movie rental? tesco, furniture? tesco...need i go on?

Also many local authorities don't have the finances to go through years of planning appeals and high court battles, thus allowing the tail to wag the dog.

As for supermarkets being fiercely competitive, they have been caught out price fixing before and their recent profits are still very healthy.

Here is a 'negotiation' masterclass from the barrow boys that are that are driving less scrupuloius competitor's out of business. The rub is that to compete with them you would need to screw the suppliers; hence they are permanently changing the uk business environment.
The CCG recommendation to establish a new Supermarket Watchdog has been accepted by the Competition Commission.

Its inquiry had discovered that big retailers consistently:

• delay payments to suppliers – a practice that can push small companies out of business, and people out of work;
• reduce the agreed price of an order after it’s been delivered;
• require payments from suppliers when supermarket profits are not as big as expected;
• require suppliers to contribute to the cost of opening a new store;
• change orders at the last minute – for example, demanding different packaging and forcing suppliers to pick up the cost.

 

[Montaigne]

We live in a free market economy.

We really don't. A free market is a myth.

 

[Nuno]

all of the supermarkets are competitive in some way but tesco literally crushes all opposition with unfair advantages then pushes the prices up beyond what they were originally.

Well that does it for me. Literally crushes 'em huh? No more Tesco steak pies for me, or pate neither.

 

[Esk247]

Well that does it for me. Literally crushes 'em huh? No more Tesco steak pies for me, or pate neither.

yes literally

have you not seen the giant Hand of Tesco hovering above Little Bobs paint shop in Leeds?

it won't be long Little Bob...your end is near!

 

[Nuno]

^^^^

Little Bob squashed by Tesco Scrooge. A modern Christmas Carol!

 

[MrCloser]

Seems to me in terms of market share they might think they are no1, but among the chattering classes it seems that they are the most hated of supermarkets. Only this weekend, some of my more conventoinal friends admitted to purposely boycotting tecos .

The Roman empire fell, hopefully so will Tescos in time.

 

[Esk247]

The Roman empire fell, hopefully so will Tescos in time.

i hope they just recede back to what they do best (or did best) which was food and convenience.

Tesco are powerful enough to have their own train service http://www.tescoplc.com/news/news-releases/2011/tesco-grows-rail-distribution-services/

Japan didn't go too well though: http://www.tescoplc.com/news/news-releases/2011/tesco-to-sell-japan-business/

One way to get around refusal of planning: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1268832/Tesco-launches-brand-mini-villages-South-East.html

 

[JDX_John]

I've been getting really p****d off recently with some national and multi national companies moving into my business sector , I mean Tesco ( and others) moving into fitting double glazing .

I know they seem to be into everything , but if their prepared to get into fitting windows and conservatories what will they stop at.

Tesco sell double glazing? Thanks for the tip!

Presumably they simply hire local contractors to do the work... maybe you can get a slice of the action by selling to them, rather than think negatively about it?

 

[bigkendo]

Tesco sell double glazing? Thanks for the tip!

Presumably they simply hire local contractors to do the work... maybe you can get a slice of the action by selling to them, rather than think negatively about it?

Not much chance of that John , their working with JWD ( job worth doing ) who are part of a group of companies which include weatherseal.

 

[JDX_John]

Sounds to me like Tesco are monopolising

It's deemed a monopoly if they use their strength in one market to unfairly dominate another. Simply having a well-established brand-name doesn't count, but advertising in their stores could be dodgier ground, the same as if Google cheat their search algorithms to always put their own products at the top of searches (which some claim they do).

 

[PIngels]

If everyone stopped buying from these supermarkets then they will be gone soon enough but we don't. We like convenience above community and that's not going to change anytime soon, by the looks of it. It seems to only way to win is to be creative and innovate in creating new products and markets they've not touched yet ... until they do.

 

[JDX_John]

Quite surprised on a site for small businesses and entrepreneurs, that people are having a go at these giant companies rather than looking to emulate them. Sure, they make it tougher but business is about competition... if you don't like it, get a job working for someone else and take a paycheck instead of stressing over it.

 

[bigkendo]

Quite surprised on a site for small businesses and entrepreneurs, that people are having a go at these giant companies rather than looking to emulate them. Sure, they make it tougher but business is about competition... if you don't like it, get a job working for someone else and take a paycheck instead of stressing over it.

So it doesn't matter how massive Tesco becomes , it doesn't matter if hundreds of small / medium businesses are hurt by them , no one is to talk about it or debate matters , we've just to try and " emulate " them , get real .

I personally don't want to buy everything from one company , and that is the way things are going with this retailer .

It's already been discussed on this thread how Tesco can walk over council decisions and even how they can hurt their own suppliers , well whats it going to be like in another twenty years time.

 

[JDX_John]

So it doesn't matter how massive Tesco becomes , it doesn't matter if hundreds of small / medium businesses are hurt by them , no one is to talk about it or debate matters , we've just to try and " emulate " them , get real .

Welcome to capitalism. Nobody is forcing you to start a business - if you can't hack it get a job.

 

[JDX_John]

And to balance that out with a more reasonable post ()... just because Tesco operate in many different areas now, doesn't mean they are eliminating the competition. In recent years Tesco have launched home & car insurance, broadband, mobile phone services, online wine clubs, to name only a few. But you don't see the other insurers all going out of business.
All this "soon there will be only one store" baloney is just sensationalism. People have been saying it for the last 20 years, I'm sure in 20 years from now they'll STILL be saying it.

 

[bigkendo]

Welcome to capitalism. Nobody is forcing you to start a business - if you can't hack it get a job.

OK John , I'll give up my business and go and join my wife , son , daughter , brother , two sisters and my nephew ( not joking ) and go work for Tesco , It's where we're all going to be sooner or later anyway

 

[JDX_John]

Running a business isn't for everyone... unless you run a grocery I don't think Tesco are going to put a decent company out of business.

 

[Esk247]

Running a business isn't for everyone... unless you run a grocery I don't think Tesco are going to put a decent company out of business.

are you sure? so Tesco has absolutely no bearing at all on any other business, ever. No supermarket has ever affected a local town in the slightest. We little retailers must be imagining it then.

it's not just about what Tesco sell remember, it's about HOW they sell.

Footfall!

Lets go on a little journey.

Just like internet retail, supermarkets drag people through their doors instead of the high street. So, it doesn't matter if Bob the Slob has a cracking little DVD shop on the high street because a) internet retailers deliver to your door and b) you can buy the dvd from tesco while you shop c) Bob doesnt have any parking outside his shop..poor Bob.

Bob the Slob could offer more unique DVDs, infact, he already does. However, Tesco who opened down the road last year have free parking, they also have over 40,000 products available for you right now, today, in store. Why would you bother going to see Bob???

There is room for niche high street retailers, goth shops, specialist computer shops etc but the biggest footfall is through the supermarkets. They have a captive audience, they have you right there buying your food because you MUST eat something. While you're there they hit you with advertising for hundreds of products that are not food related.

Now lets also get this straight. I applaud Tescos business and international strength. They are a mighty machine, they are the ultimate business. Just like Amazon but on even more platforms, they do it online, they do it on the high street, they do it on the mobile. Perfecto! credit where it's due, bravo, well done.

It's just a shame that the Bob the Slob can't tempt people past his shop anymore.

 

[MrCloser]

Now lets also get this straight. I applaud Tescos business and international strength. They are a mighty machine...

NOOO! They are such a dodgy grubby company, although ruthlessly well managed. Screwing suppliers, bullying local authorities, cheating customers with mispriced items, price fixing and 'accidentally' selling petrol in short measures , stitching-up local planniers is not the sort of business skills I applaud.

If I were that morally bankrupt I'd get into dealing crack, kiddie porn or land mines.

As for your idea that good businesses can take the competiton, my area is mainly cheap downmarket or boarded up shops, wedged between two Tesco's barns and thier late shop.

If competition was so good for all business then why would a monopolies and mergers board try to protect against it?

Survival of the fittest and natural selection works in business too, but surely you would agree that there comes a time when one business has so much market dominance it will negatively affect smaller competitors. If Tesco had double the amount of uk stores, would you still hold this opinion?

 

[JDX_John]

NOOO! They are such a dodgy grubby company, although ruthlessly well managed. Screwing suppliers, bullying local authorities, cheating customers with mispriced items, price fixing and 'accidentally' selling petrol in short measures , stitching-up local planniers is not the sort of business skills I applaud.

If I were that morally bankrupt I'd get into dealing crack, kiddie porn or land mines.

OK so let's replace Tesco with Asda/Walmart or one of the other big chains if you have a specific problem with Tesco.

As for your idea that good businesses can take the competiton, my area is mainly cheap downmarket or boarded up shops, wedged between two Tesco's barns and thier late shop.

One example where they saturate the market isn't the whole picture - many supermarkets are outside the town centre which means there is some room for other businesses. LOTS of people don't own cars for instance and still rely on walking to their local shop.

Also - there are other factors why so many shops are shut right now.

If competition was so good for all business then why would a monopolies and mergers board try to protect against it?

Well they exist to deal with quite specific things, not simply a company being too successful.

surely you would agree that there comes a time when one business has so much market dominance it will negatively affect smaller competitors.

Of course, but that doesn't automatically mean it's a bad thing.

If Tesco had double the amount of uk stores, would you still hold this opinion?

That's a meaningless question, because they don't. Tesco don't even have a 'monopoly' on groceries since there are a half-dozen supermarket chains in the UK and in many towns, you have a choice.