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Hi web boy,

If you're going to add SEO keyword rich links to your signature footer, surely you can think of better keywords than "Newbies Only."

The best thing about this site is that every post is followed by google so It is absolutely immense for SEO.

Perhaps a better use of links would be "b2b data" with a link to our website. :p

Kind regards,

Peter
 
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This is NOT for a SEO trick and i will emphasize the word NOT.

I am not here to spam the forum with signature links also to void the TOS with anything that dose not contribute or help anybody. Hence why its the way it is. I could of even anchored the whole sentence really.

Good marketing is all about ROI not huge volumes of traffic which don't convent in to anything.

if you're good marketing you will observer the power of the prospective customers mind set and the way to attack them, then give them what they want and not what they need (The 7 P's In Marketing)
(The Law Of Attraction Also Curiosity )
Hope this helps
 
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This is NOT for a SEO trick and i will emphasize the word NOT.

I am not here to spam the forum with signature links also to void the TOS with anything that dose not contribute or help anybody. Hence why its the way it is. I could of even anchored the whole sentence really.

Good marketing is all about ROI not huge volumes of traffic which don't convent in to anything.

if you're good marketing you will observer the power of the prospective customers mind set and the way to attack them, then give them what they want and not what they need (The 7 P's In Marketing)
(The Law Of Attraction Also Curiosity )
Hope this helps


You dont really know much about marketing do you mate;)
 
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I don't mean "solely intended for an SEO trick," more so the fact that when you post here legitimately on other peoples messages each post benefits your SEO ranking, so why not choose anchor texts that are going to provide you a maximum ROI on your efforts? It saves hiring someone else to do SEO when you can produce results naturally yourself- by responding to posts as you normally would.
 
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Hi web boy,

If you're going to add SEO keyword rich links to your signature footer, surely you can think of better keywords than "Newbies Only."

I think they want noobs just to brainwash them into thinking that email marketing is the be all and end all

Could you also explain to us that we will be signing up to this webinar, where I quote "Ask Any Question To The Gurus About INTERNET Marketing"

Could I ask you a question that an ONLINE markleting expert who sends out one email and gets a sale and quote "giving customers what they want, not what they need" should surely beable to explain this:-

Why is your website the most confusing I have ever seen.

You click onto http://www.7figurejobs.co.uk it says at the top of the screen Music Technology Jobs, then down the right hand side it says "Central London Construction Jobs" Click onto that and jobs come up for "Events Chef" very confusing.

And you say your a marketing guru.....I know I was born at night but it certainly wasnt last night.
 
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Not really that's why i sit at home on a Saturday afternoon and enjoy talking people in forums like this one and then watch people buy 6k > 75k products from my website per day (don't wish to brag) but i think you have the message here.

Please don't take that comment personal as i know your upset and may use those methods to rank your websites.
I just don't need to and have my on ways of marketing.

(if you look at some of my posts you may even get some tips that could help you to get to the number one spot much quicker)

Hope that helps

You dont really know much about marketing do you mate;)
 
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Hold on a minute, you did say we never need pay for PPC or rank our website, how can you give me tips on getting to No1.

Whats the site you sell all these products from, you never know if your selling 75000 a day we might want some of your products.

Share the domain name so we can have a look
 
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Why is your website the most confusing I have ever seen.

Question who said this is my website does i have my name on it ?

Just because i have it on my signature dose not mean its mine or i am associated with it !!

Please question you findings as you can see lots of people prompting links on the signatures. As a n00bie rule of thumb they may not even own it.

It could be affiliate (but a I like the questions you have asked so pop it in and see if you get competent response from them, you never even know you may act right way) .

Hope that helps

quote=Urban Publications;1296371]I think they want noobs just to brainwash them into thinking that email marketing is the be all and end all

Could you also explain to us that we will be signing up to this webinar, where I quote "Ask Any Question To The Gurus About INTERNET Marketing"

Could I ask you a question that an ONLINE markleting expert who sends out one email and gets a sale and quote "giving customers what they want, not what they need" should surely beable to explain this:-

Why is your website the most confusing I have ever seen.

You click onto http://www.7figurejobs.co.uk it says at the top of the screen Music Technology Jobs, then down the right hand side it says "Central London Construction Jobs" Click onto that and jobs come up for "Events Chef" very confusing.

And you say your a marketing guru.....I know I was born at night but it certainly wasnt last night.[/quote]
 
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Why is your website the most confusing I have ever seen.

Question who said this is my website does i have my name on it ?

Just because i have it on my signature dose not mean its mine or i am associated with it !!

I have never read so much bullsh!t in all my life.
We are asking for a web address, and why the bloody hell would a ONLINE marketing guru put a site like that into their sig.....not painting a good picture for you is it.

If you were this cracked up Marketing guru and your site is selling approx 11k units per day on average then surely you would know it beneficial for you to put that site up in your sig not some confusing site that hasnt got a clue what it wants to be......oh yeah I know..just an email capture tool.
 
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Not really that's why i sit at home on a Saturday afternoon and enjoy talking people in forums like this one and then watch people buy 6k > 75k products from my website per day (don't wish to brag) but i think you have the message here.

Please don't take that comment personal as i know your upset and may use those methods to rank your websites.
I just don't need to and have my on ways of marketing.

(if you look at some of my posts you may even get some tips that could help you to get to the number one spot much quicker)

Hope that helps

You do make me laugh. You carry on dreaming your are selling 75 000 products a day, and ill keep on believing you know very little about marketing. Everyones happy.
 
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Stretchy like mentioned he is good at email marketing, but I think he got a little confused when he said send one email get one sale, I think he ment send one million emails get one sale....the guys a spammer, just using http://www.7figurejobs.co.uk/webinar/ just for how webboy puts it "NOOBS" to fall into the trap of getting viagra or even confirm your bank account emails.

Oh and my maths has just come back to me its not 11k average a day at all about 41ishk a day

He thinks he owns Amazon:)
 
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Some what as i told another person in the forum today i don't post clients private information in forums (Would you cut off your own income by telling every body) Dahh this is not a place to brag or boost. there is no need.

We are here to help each other and that it period. What i do is irrelevant to you as you may conduct your business differently. If i told you could make 100k over night and you could not keep up the pace you would turn around and then blame me for you not getting the 100k result right . (whose fault is that) . Tip One : Take Full Responsibility For Your own Actions Don't Blame Others.

Tip Two:, do your own research and take a bit from every good mentor the will drive you to your own goals (not his/hers) then make it work for you.

Tip Three :if you do not know how to put value in to a product or even into yourself first, please conduct the necessary research by gaining the skills needed to take the appropriate action. its a commen mistake made by people today all the time also forget about.

Tip Four: A e-book can sell for more than physical hard back book (have you purchased one in the past its no big secret ) .. a e book can sell for over anything from 50 > 1000 pounds for just info. Now just step back and think about how much did it cost to develop the e-book. Do you get the picture now. its called adding VALUE.

Please don't take this hard way as i want to help you see the light here.

quote=Urban Publications;1296381]Hold on a minute, you did say we never need pay for PPC or rank our website, how can you give me tips on getting to No1.

Whats the site you sell all these products from, you never know if your selling 75000 a day we might want some of your products.

Share the domain name so we can have a look[/quote]
 
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Some what as i told another person in the forum today i don't post clients private information in forums (Would you cut off your own income by telling every body) Dahh this is not a place to brag or boost. there is no need.

We are here to help each other and that it period. What i do is irrelevant to you as you may conduct your business differently. If i told you could make 100k over night and you could not keep up the pace you would turn around and then blame me for you not getting the 100k result right . (whose fault is that) . Tip One : Take Full Responsibility For Your own Actions Don't Blame Others.

Tip Two:, do your own research and take a bit from every good mentor the will drive you to your own goals (not his/hers) then make it work for you.

Tip Three :if you do not know how to put value in to a product or even into yourself first, please conduct the necessary research by gaining the skills needed to take the appropriate action. its a commen mistake made by people today all the time also forget about.

Tip Four: A e-book can sell for more than physical hard back book (have you purchased one in the past its no big secret ) .. a e book can sell for over anything from 50 > 1000 pounds for just info. Now just step back and think about how much did it cost to develop the e-book. Do you get the picture now. its called adding VALUE.

Please don't take this hard way as i want to help you see the light here.

quote=Urban Publications;1296381]Hold on a minute, you did say we never need pay for PPC or rank our website, how can you give me tips on getting to No1.

Whats the site you sell all these products from, you never know if your selling 75000 a day we might want some of your products.

Share the domain name so we can have a look
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Is English your first language?
 
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No No No, Did I not say i could sell YOU a £100 book please read the post as that's not what i said. It was just a small example and if you need social proof please Google it for yourself for top website who sell informational digital products at the price.


Tip Four: A e-book can sell for more than physical hard back book (have you purchased one in the past its no big secret ) .. a e book can sell for over anything from 50 > 1000 pounds for just info. Now just step back and think about how much did it cost to develop the e-book. Do you get the picture now. its called adding VALUE.

So basically webboy it sounds to me that you con people into spending £100s on a book. Tell me, whats the retention rate on your customers? How about some verifiable testimonials? I'm guess that if your books are worth £1000+ in knowledge you would have some clients that we've all heard of.
 
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webboy

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Oh me oh my why are we all getting so wound up here.

Lets try and lighten the load here for the moderators to stop banning people from all the abuse .

It's not about what i do or what i have on signature, lets go back to the original post which was started and try to help the person who created it.

Some positive feed back and advice would be nice but do remember this post also get sent back to the creator. I bet they now have loads of irrelevant emails with no solution.



this post started out with

hi everyone,

just looking to get an idea what the preferred marketing methods are of the forum users (dont worry, i will not be trying to market our services to you).

Poll

thanks
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Some what as i told another person in the forum today i don't post clients private information in forums (Would you cut off your own income by telling every body) Dahh this is not a place to brag or boost. there is no need.

Sorry thought it was you who said you would be sat at home on a forum and would be selling between 6k and 75k products, not a client.
And if it was my site selling 75k products a day then I really wouldnt mind if you were my maketing company and you shared my web address on a forum.

We are here to help each other and that it period. What i do is irrelevant to you as you may conduct your business differently. If i told you could make 100k over night and you could not keep up the pace you would turn around and then blame me for you not getting the 100k result right . (whose fault is that) . Tip One : Take Full Responsibility For Your own Actions Don't Blame Others.

Let me get this straight, you are the one saying you can get me 100k of sales overnight and it doesnt happen I blame myself....how does that work then? Can you also state what pace I need to work at for you to make me the 100k sales overnight. Red Bull here I come.

And I admit we have hijacked someones thread but when someone comes on here stating they are an online marketing expert with a sig link of a very confused site, who is also confused if it is your own or a clients site that sells 75k products then how do you think people are going to react.

All we ask for you is this product selling website, then you can prove us all wrong on your abilities as an online marketing expert.
Which in turn may get people to sign up to your webinar.
 
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Sorry thought it was you who said you would be sat at home on a forum and would be selling between 6k and 75k products, not a client.

And if it was my site selling 75k products a day then I really wouldnt mind if you were my maketing company and you shared my web address on a forum.

Well this is the arrangement which is in place called a nondisclosure and that's how most affiliates and private organizations work.


Let me get this straight, you are the one saying you can get me 100k of sales overnight and it doesnt happen I blame myself....how does that work then? Can you also state what pace I need to work at for you to make me the 100k sales overnight. Red Bull here I come.


Lets all pause and examine this situation,

A teacher is explaining to a child the result of 1 + 1

they don't believe its true.

who is at fault here the teacher or the child ?

(you cannot force a person to follow simple steps if they cannot see or believe )

The teacher could drum it in the child heads but until they believe its true the will fight the end result. (sound like this post) blame blame the teacher
Wrong ...

(you are the one saying you can get me 100k of.. )
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Did i personally ever say that I could make you 100k over night proven (it was just a example in post) .

In fact do you think you could even make it happen if a person gave you the correct tools today right now? If so you have answered your own question here about setting goals with the expected pace.
IT'S UP TO YOU NOT ME given you have the correct tools.


And I admit we have hijacked someones thread but when someone comes on here stating they are an online marketing expert with a sig link of a very confused site, who is also confused if it is your own or a clients site that sells 75k products then how do you think people are going to react.

again who said i was an expert? whats is you definition of expert

let me open the dictionary here.


  • A person with a high degree of skill in or knowledge of a certain subject

So as you may have something from the above you can now call yourself an expert right.

ok good lets move on as that's enough n00bie schooling here and about me and my clients that sell products at 75k. If you want to sell one you could also it also by doing what they did (sweat equity) and investing within yourself with the correct knowledge and not procrastinating.

All we ask for you is this product selling website, then you can prove us all wrong on your abilities as an online marketing expert.
Which in turn may get people to sign up to your webinar.

That is like approaching Amazon and saying Dear Mr Amazon I want to see all your best selling products so that I can sell them to my customers half price! DAHHH

Now for my signature this is irrelevant to this subject , for those who are proactive and currently seeking a solution this will apply to them. They will conduct the appropriate action and not have those 100 questions then end up getting nothing done.

Close this the door on this one Mr Urban Expert
 
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Well this is the arrangement which is in place called a nondisclosure and that's how most affiliates and private organizations work.

I understand nondisclosure etc etc, what I dont understand is that YOU said

Saturday afternoon and enjoy talking people in forums like this one and then watch people buy 6k > 75k products from MY WEBSITE per day

My simple question is who is it selling the products, you or your client a little confused from your posts


Lets all pause and examine this situation,

A teacher is explaining to a child the result of 1 + 1

they don't believe its true.

who is at fault here the teacher or the child ?

(you cannot force a person to follow simple steps if they cannot see or believe )

The teacher could drum it in the child heads but until they believe its true the will fight the end result. (sound like this post) blame blame the teacher
Wrong ...

Ok now your entering into my field, this is where you are totally wrong, if you are trying to teach a child 1+1 and they do not understand you are obviously doing to much teaching and not enough learning, a teacher worth his weight would change his teaching style to align with the said childs learning style, so yes you blame the teacher if the student doesnt understand.

Did i personally ever say that I could make you 100k over night proven (it was just a example in post) .

Dito I was using it as an example also, do you really think I believe you could get me 100k sales overnight.
Whatever the amount of products lets say for arguments sake it was a mere 10 products overnight, and I employed you to make this happen, then morning comes and your company and its unique selling machine has made 1 sale, just remind me, Mr Layman who employed said marketing expert who boasted:-

No ppc required
No need to rank your website
You send one email and they buy
Saturday afternoon and enjoy talking people in forums like this one and then watch people buy 6k > 75k products from my website per day

Who's to blame?
Is it me for not being a marketing expert.

again who said i was an expert? whats is you definition of expert



let me open the dictionary here.
  • A person with a high degree of skill in or knowledge of a certain subject

Sorry forgive me for calling you an expert.....I was wrong

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All we ask for you is this product selling website, then you can prove us all wrong on your abilities as an online marketing expert.
Which in turn may get people to sign up to your webinar.

That is like approaching Amazon and saying Dear Mr Amazon I want to see all your best selling products so that I can sell them to my customers half price! DAHHH

Again your comments amaze me, it would be more like going to Mr Amazon who has just been boasting selling 75k products a day and me asking for the web address and Mr Amazon turns round and says "NO" do you really think Mr Amazon is going to do that or will he let me know the web address so I too could go and buy products, and tell my FRIENDS about the site so they can buy too. In other words Marketing his site.

Now for my signature this is irrelevant to this subject

Need some help PM me or jump on the Webinar below

If it is irrelevant then I suggest you dont post on this thread for people to join.

Whilst on this subject if you are not an expert could you please tell us which marketing experts are on the webinar....or is that top secret too.
 
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Good marketing is all about ROI not huge volumes of traffic which don't convent in to anything.

Good marketing is about identifying ways to satisfy customer needs, efficiently and profitably.

if you're good marketing you will observer the power of the prospective customers mind set and the way to attack them, then give them what they want and not what they need (The 7 P's In Marketing)
(The Law Of Attraction Also Curiosity )

That's shocking. A good marketeer doesn't 'attack' prospective customers. A good marketeer listens to customers, finds out what it is they want/need, and finds efficient and profitable ways to satisfy those needs. The 7 Ps are tactics to make customer-pleasing strategies work - they're not weapons!

Comments like yours give the entire marketing profession a bad name. No wonder so many people are skeptical about marketing; attitudes like yours are extremely damaging to the marketing profession and very annoying for those of us that work hard to challenge the public's perception that marketing is only about duping hapless consumers into buying things they don't want or need.

Shame on you!
 
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Well I am very sorry if I have struck a core nerve with that typo. (attract) I did not mean to upset you.

But .. Please consider this about the bad name part.

When a senior member of your family receives a cold call from a well established company and then they real off the sales pitch as follows

Sales And Marketing: "We would like to upgrade your service to keep you inline with others. You can pay by direct debit which would be much easier also cost less per month"


...(which translated ) Yeah sure we will take your cash and when there is a problem with the service you will have to call and not only write to 100 people to get your money back credited to your account. Not your bank account .

Is that Bad Marketing or Good Marketing?

Somebody here tell me please they have not been through all this before.

So remember when you reference bad marketing. Find me a company that promotes this in a good way and sticks to it.

Good marketing is about identifying ways to satisfy customer needs, efficiently and profitably.



That's shocking. A good marketeer doesn't 'attack' prospective customers. A good marketeer listens to customers, finds out what it is they want/need, and finds efficient and profitable ways to satisfy those needs. The 7 Ps are tactics to make customer-pleasing strategies work - they're not weapons!

Comments like yours give the entire marketing profession a bad name. No wonder so many people are skeptical about marketing; attitudes like yours are extremely damaging to the marketing profession and very annoying for those of us that work hard to challenge the public's perception that marketing is only about duping hapless consumers into buying things they don't want or need.

Shame on you!
 
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Webinars - it sounds like some scam actually :rolleyes:

I can sniff a scam a mile off, and affiliates 10 miles away :D


I'm sure I can think of something far more effective than a web seminar, and the idea will be far more useful to the world. It won't cost them 100k either...
 
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