Magento to What?

[pelparc]

I currently have a Magento 1.9 multi store site (3 web sites). Looking at upgrading to Magento 2 (for future support reasons) looks very unattractive. Lots of effort, cost plus ongoing costs for modules without as far as i can see any gain for me or my customers. Magento is probably overkill for my needs but i like the ability to change and adapt the pages as i want and do it myself without paying someone. Which again looks increasingly complicated to do in version 2. So what other e-commerce systems are available with a multi shop function that is easy to customise?
Thanks for you thoughts.

 

[UrbanRetail]

You could take a look at OpenCart. We use it for several stores and it's more than suitable for our needs. It also has a multistore function built in.

 

[webhostuk]

Yup Opencart is good one. You can even take a look at shopify , or prestashop.

 

[antropy]

i like the ability to change and adapt the pages as i want and do it myself without paying someone

That's one of the new features in OpenCart 3:
https://www.antropy.co.uk/blog/what-s-new-in-opencart-3/

 

[pelparc]

Thanks, looking at shopify i don't think they have a real way to have multi stores and prestashop seems to use subdomains instead of completely different url's (hopefully i am wrong). Looks like i will have to have a good look at Opencart.

Is there any Magento to Opencart transfer software available?

On a related subject, we have lots of very high ranking pages in google what is the best approach to keep the page url's the same or is there another method i should adopt?

 

[antropy]

Is there any Magento to Opencart transfer software available?

There are these guys:
https://www.shopping-cart-migration.com/

But we often write our own scripts to do this.

On a related subject, we have lots of very high ranking pages in google what is the best approach to keep the page url's the same or is there another method i should adopt?

You can keep the URLs the same or just setup 301 redirects from the old to the new.

 

[Page]

What is wrong with 1.?

Why are you fixing something that is going to be fine for years and years

 

[pelparc]

What is wrong with 1.?

Why are you fixing something that is going to be fine for years and years

With the amount of updates and patches how can you be sure that version 1 is going to be fine for years and years? There is nothing wrong with version 1 at all. Its just preparation for when the day comes when it needs a security flaw fixed but there is no fix. If it can be guaranteed it will be supported for many years then fantastic, however without that guarantee i am putting the business at risk.

 

[Page]

By the time that happens do you not think the move from 1.9 to 2.? will be a much smoother operation and with modules out there to help with it all and maybe all your add ons developed on 2.?

You can never be sure - whether you are on on 1 or 2

But the user base on 1 is loads larger

 

[wood1e2]

Shopify is not the greatest to move from, if you are looking for a system to lower your overhead then it could be that.

but the apps/plugins up the monthly cost.

Shopify payment processor is a little puritanical, it doesn't like skin cream for example.

The Discount/Loyalty point system is limited, even if you pay monthly for a app.

The loyalty systems only get better when you get to the Shopify Pro (£2000 per month)

There is lots of things to love and lots of things to not love.

I would stick with Magento 1 until you are forced to move.

Unless what you are saying you should have never been on that platform at all, then I would move to which ever platform offer the multi site solution.

Most ecommerce platforms these days are sufficient for you needs (ish)

what you might find is that you don't like one platform over another because it is different, not because it is inferior to Magento.

I would say most of a biggish platforms are more admin user friendly that magento.

 

[pelparc]

Unless what you are saying you should have never been on that platform at all, then I would move to which ever platform offer the multi site solution.

Thanks for replying, not sure what your saying. Do you mean i should never have started using Magento in the first place? Why? I have been using a FREE eCommerce platform (considered at the time the best) that i am able to customise and program myself to do pretty much what i want. The only ongoing cost i have is hosting. I have one paid for module (a whole £30) all the others are free and the site/s work absolutely fine. Whats not to like?
However Magento 2 looks like i will need to get my head around how it works (i might take a couple of hours or it might make me go an lie down in front of the bl**dy combine harvester that's been going up and down all day in the field next to me). The problem i have is that the modules such as payment processing are not in the main free anymore and they also have a yearly or monthly subscription. I realise that the software developers have to earn a living and if they want to charge then that's upto them, however i am absolutely not going to pay for a yearly subscription to use it. To add all of this extra cost to my business for no gain to me or my customers is irresponsible. On another note payment processors who make money from you using there service should be providing interfaces so you can use their systems FOC.

 

[webmto]

Hello,

I've been working with ecommerce solutions for years, trying to find the best one.
How shoud be a best one?

Loading time, responsive time, tones of products without affects loading time, requests per seconds (hundred) and so on.

Opencart may look as a best options but is not. Once you will install modules the OC performance will decrease dramatically.

The best solutions in the customized one, running a kernel that allow tones of products and features with no decrease of loading/access time.

So I wrote the engine/kernel that I implemented for my web and of course I can do that for those who want a new, affordable and smooth web site, cms or ecommerce. Demo available for those they don't believe

All the best.
CC (webmto)

 

[wood1e2]

@pelparc

What I meant was that many 'experts' sell Magento as the best solution to e-commerce to business owners with 3 products and no need for expense of a dedicated or cloud server.

These Magento experts - sell it on the basis of what it can offer, how scalable it is!! I had one client who was sold it and she only had 48 products!! Pointless!!

These experts forget that most business owners haven't the time or inclination to update modules, manage framework updates, let alone learn how to set up product attributes or connect up MailChimp or Paypal let alone learn how to speed up the site.

As I spend most of my time fixing other 'magento experts issues' (mainly a £200 installation by some expert east of Lowestoft )... I know you must be up there with the most lucky magento business owners in the world.

Especially as you haven't paid for a single module. But at some point you are going to have to look at magento 2.

That is why as a rule of thumb if a client wants to sell online, then smaller frameworks are more likely to suite their need, expectation, server costs, admin etcetc.

As there is nothing out of the box that Magento does better than a lot of other frameworks - not doubt I am going to hit by a list of what it can do that others cannot!!

I am not a fan of monthly subscription frameworks for that reason. After a couple of years you are paying for nothing, whereas 'self hosted' solutions you have more of an asset....but then once again the 'hosted' frameworks tend to be more intuitive/simplier than Magento.

 

[Nick Chambers]

Having just developed an eCommerce site in Sylius for a client, I can thoroughly recommend that platform.

 

[webmto]

I would not.

Why? Because the idea is to get rid of frameworks. If not, use open cart with nice theme, perhaps prestashop, or even magento. For small business, can be optimised to work quite fine.

 

[Nick Chambers]

Why? Because the idea is to get rid of frameworks

Prestashop (version 1.7+) and Magento 2.0+ are both increasingly using the Symfony framework. The framework on which Sylius is built.

 

[webmto]

That's why if a client wants a custom platform, I will never use the framework.

 

[Nick Chambers]

That's why if a client wants a custom platform, I will never use the framework.

Interesting.

 

[webmto]

If you want to see costumed websites in action, feel free to ask. I can provide costumed cms,
e-commerce, booking, etc. See, test, compare and have your own conclusion.

 

[Harry_Lee]

Is there any Magento to Opencart transfer software available?

Yes ,there is a company named LitExtension
I found this company on Youtube ,maybe they can help : watch?v=RbrK7yeOpM0
Sry not enough 30 posts

 

[merchado]

If you want to see costumed websites in action, feel free to ask. I can provide costumed cms,
e-commerce, booking, etc. See, test, compare and have your own conclusion.

I’d be interested in seeing your custom solution.

 

[Will Wright]

My opinion here would be it sounds like you've been on magento 1 for a while, yes moving to 2 will be painful but it should future proof you again for a number of years

 

[Christopher Day]

Shopfy is the most cost effective option, although a little limiting in offerings.

 

[merchado]

That’s not a recommendation that in any way meets the OPs requirement.

They’d need multiple stores and then to pay for an OMS on top. Not at all cost-effective.

 

[Alexander Sadlier]

Do you guys get many sales from Shopify? It's not something we have really looked into in a big way.