Looking for SEO advice....

bizideas

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May 24, 2006
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Hi there,

I am currently in the process of developing 2 x websites, 1 affiliate marketing site and the other a retail store.

I am looking for reccomendations for SEO companies, although I am looking for the best my budget will not allow me to have the best.

If your able to help, please get in touch.

Mark
 

bizideas

Free Member
May 24, 2006
297
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Newcastle UK
hey Mark,

I'm predictably going to recommend my own company Ki Media.
We're based in Newcastle too. I'd be happy to arrange a face to face and we can discuss the process, costs etc.
At the very least I can give you some free advice.

Not really looking for a face to face at present, just interested to see what advice is out there at the moment. You have any more info on your SEO services online?

Mark
 
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KevPrice

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Jan 21, 2008
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Our website should be updated within the next week with more information.

We work in different ways depending on what stage the website is at.
The service I usually provide first is a site survey and actions list.

What this gives you is an overview of the site and what changes should be made, what actions should be taken and why they are important to the SEO of the site.
It will also outline long term strategies for the site.

This creates a list of actions that should be taken. You can then take those actions yourself and do it all in house, or get quotes from myself or anyone else on any of the other actions you want doing on the list.

This should hopefully reduce your costs, and gives you the freedom to get better deals from companies who, enviably, have the resources to give you great deals on link building campaigns etc.
 
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Colin Parker

Don't even think of SEO until you have tested on PPC what keywords bring you the best CTR, conversion and profit.

SEO companies often promise/get results by targetting keywords where competition is low, searches are low and therefore you might get a high ranking but you will get little/no business.

I have ran my own and other companies internet campaigns for 6 years and I would say 80% of the time PPC is far more cost effective and gets quicker more reliable results than SEO.

In any event, do PPC first and use the results to plan your SEO campaign.

Colin Parker
The Website Guru
 
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Hi Colin,
that is a pretty scathing and generalised post there, Isome ofit I was going to say 'thanks' for, but the way you tarred all SEO companies as deceivers stopped me.

This is your first post at these forums, so I will say hi there and welcome, but also give you a little advice. Had you have read some of the advice given out here by 'deceptive SEO's' you would have seen that I and a few others suggest that a PPC campaign is by far the way to cement belief in your choice of keywords to target.


You said not to even THINK about hiring an SEo until ...

Google think differently, thats right, Google actually ADVISE you to get an SEo involved ;)

If you're thinking about hiring an SEO, the earlier the better. A great time to hire is when you're considering a site redesign, or planning to launch a new site. That way, you and your SEO can ensure that your site is designed to be search engine-friendly from the bottom up. However, a good SEO can also help improve an existing site.
http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=35291
 
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Hi Colin,
that is a pretty scathing and generalised post there, Isome ofit I was going to say 'thanks' for, but the way you tarred all SEO companies as deceivers stopped me.


http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=35291

Afraid although we know how good SEO can be.I can see where Colin and a lot of other's are coming from.

SEO in general comes below lawyers ,bankers and politicians in the pecking order of public confidence,:D

Mainly because it is a fact that there are many more rubbish SEO companies than good ones .

Earl
 
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Eplaygaming

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Hi Bizideas from another Geordie

Not an expert on SEO but I started using some free/cheap sites to try and boost ratings in Google etc.

This is a new one.

LEADGUSHER

If you have banners for your company, try this viral one

01viral.com

Finally

Viral Coop

Which cost me a one off fee of £35.87

There are paid and professional ways to SEO your site of course, but every bit helps.

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Colin Parker

Old Welsh Guy please note: I have not 'tarred' all SEO companies I merely stated that 'many' SEO companies promise high page rankings which they cannot achieve. And that is a FACT.

As far as Google recommending that you involve an SEO from the start of a website design/internet marketing campaign I DISAGREE.

Before I comment why I disagree I would state this: Google are undoubted experts at running a search engine, determining SEO algorithms, and squeezing every penny out of PPC advertisers etc.,

However, just as manufacturing footballs does not gift the company directors with the skills of Ronaldo, neither does running a search engine gift those in Google with internet MARKETING prowess. Perry Marshall for example, has infinitely more knowledge of getting the best out of Google PPC than they do themselves.

There are two words beginning with 'R' which differentiate Google's objectives from mine - they want 'relevancy' I want 'results'.

Yes, I have to follow Google's relevancy requirements to achieve high SEO rankings and a high PPC quality score, but I do not do it so slavishly that I lose sight of my real objective which is getting RESULTS ie., getting my website to convert visitors into sales which equals profit for my business.

What many SEO's and their clients forget, or perhaps never even consider, is that a 1st page ranking (even for volume potentially profitable keywords) is of little use if the website does not convert visitors into sales or subscription to a database etc.

SEO's are often so hell bent on stuffing the site with SEO criteria that by the time a 'holy grail' 1st page ranking is achieved it is only then that the website is revealed as a conversion 'duffer'. The poor old business (and by now they could be VERY poor) has spent all that money on SEO for ... ?

You do not make money from generating visitors to your website ie., SEO/PPC, you make money from CONVERTING those visits into business.

In short, give me a 100 PPC visits a month that convert into 10 sales over 1,000 SEO visits that convert into 1. Of course the real 'holy grail' is a combination of volume SEO and PPC visits and volume conversion but only the elite few achieve this.

My objective is RESULTS not the cache of seeing my site on page 1 of Google SEO. If I can achieve both, fantastic, but I know without any deliberation which one puts 'food on the table'.

Which brings me back (albeit after a lot longer than I expected!) to why I disagree with getting an SEO involved at the start of a website design/campaign. I advise doing a PPC campaign first with simple website pages which test keyword conversion and therefore help to establish which keywords you should optimise for SEO. At the same time you should test your website design, headlines, copy, pictures, colours etc., and track the results on Google's conversion optimiser to establish the 'winning' format of your site design. Then, and only then, in my opinion should you involve an SEO.

If you get an SEO involved from the start you are in grave danger, as I think I may have made clear, of inadvertently having the wrong objective ie., No1 SEO rankings instead of No1 site conversion and profits.

And, by the way, I practise what I preach. I have multiple 1st and 2nd page Google/MSN/Yahoo SEO rankings for high volume keywords with a site conversion of 35%+.

I also regulary achieve PPC CTR's of 15%+ (often 30%+) again with site conversions of 35%+.

Colin Parker
www-thewebsiteguru-co.uk
 
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