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Right click on the missing image and copy and past the image URL in your browser ... http://postimage.org/image/71dwjzuyf/
I am sorry to say this but all three those logos are truly appalling (if it's those AF Furniture logos). If you don't have the money to get a professional designer to design a logo then go to a site like http://www.logomaker.com/ and create one there. Otherwise go to Freelancer.com and post your requirements and budget on there and select a provider that can show a portfolio of good quality logos.
Honestly, anything but those three logos. They will not help your business.
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ive done three different designs and wondered which one people thought was better/professional looking
Better to go with out I think, sorry
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Esk247
you really need to research logo design and why it is so important, that's why we are being harsh.
DFS, BBC, Coca Cola, all have very heavily researched and tested logos. If it wasn't important, why would brands spend hundreds of thousands of pounds designing one?
It is important. You just haven't yet seen the benefits of what a great logo will do for your business. From business cards, to flyers, to websites, to the advertising on your vans, it is VERY important.
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The issue is one of credibility. I'm no designer, but I can appreciate the importance of it. When I started out, I used a self designed logo. After a bit, you start to feel embarrassed handing out your business cards, because the other professionals you are speaking too know the difference between good and bad. I had one done properly and since then, I don't feel embarrassed handing out literature and further, the people I work with consider me a real business rather than a hobbyist. There are lots of hobbyists but far fewer professionally run businesses that people would feel confident doing business with. You want to be in the latter camp.
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A logo must be concise, clear and represent your product, service or company.
The three designs you posted are way too busy and didn't say what you are or do. If you have creative flair then you can easily develop your own logo design entirely or then go on to use the services of a graphics designer to bring your concept to life. If you are bereft of creative flair (it does appear from your 3 designs that you are challenged in this area) then you will unlikely to be able to spot a good logo from a bad one so then it's best to rely entirely on a professional for the design and artwork. This is where the costs go up though as a good logo designer will require a pretty complete brief on what you are and what he is seeking to represent in order to come up with something that succesfully encapsulates your business into an image or design.
The three designs you posted are way too busy and didn't say what you are or do. If you have creative flair then you can easily develop your own logo design entirely or then go on to use the services of a graphics designer to bring your concept to life. If you are bereft of creative flair (it does appear from your 3 designs that you are challenged in this area) then you will unlikely to be able to spot a good logo from a bad one so then it's best to rely entirely on a professional for the design and artwork. This is where the costs go up though as a good logo designer will require a pretty complete brief on what you are and what he is seeking to represent in order to come up with something that succesfully encapsulates your business into an image or design.
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"hundreds of thousands of pounds designing one?"
yes thats really worth thousands of pounds, are you having a laugh? A two year kid could design that.
A red button with the words coca cola, with a picture of a coke bottle in the background. how ingenius that must have taken years of thinking to conjure up?
Anyway im going to stick with the third design, with a few modifications. Il show it to the boss. If at some point he wants to pay money il get him a professionally designed one. But you guys have to understand sometimes you can do things yourself and save hundreds of pounds.
someone said the logo must be clear concise and show what you do. In my third design it shows the letters A and F, the A is meant to represent a house (as they sell furniture for your HOME) the F is stuck on top (looking like an aerial) inside is a picture of a sofa and a lamp, showing you we sell these things amongst others, you couldnt get more clear, concise and informative than that without going ott.
yes thats really worth thousands of pounds, are you having a laugh? A two year kid could design that.
A red button with the words coca cola, with a picture of a coke bottle in the background. how ingenius that must have taken years of thinking to conjure up?
Anyway im going to stick with the third design, with a few modifications. Il show it to the boss. If at some point he wants to pay money il get him a professionally designed one. But you guys have to understand sometimes you can do things yourself and save hundreds of pounds.
someone said the logo must be clear concise and show what you do. In my third design it shows the letters A and F, the A is meant to represent a house (as they sell furniture for your HOME) the F is stuck on top (looking like an aerial) inside is a picture of a sofa and a lamp, showing you we sell these things amongst others, you couldnt get more clear, concise and informative than that without going ott.
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You seem to have problems accepting advice even when it's offered up in as constructive a way as is possible. With your favoured design, the 'A' does not say a house it says a triangle on stilts or at best the letter A. Your F looked nothing like an aerial. Then if you consider what you meant them to represent, you are into furniture but nothing to do with housing or aerials. Therefore your logo design is not focussed and will not deliver any meaningful message.
You would be better served having an item of furniture and some text that states what you offer (as you wont have an advertising budget to enable symbol recognition) - like bespoke furniture, affordable furniture, pine furniture or whatever it is you do. You could have a table light shining down onto your text. That would be an outline for an effective logo. You have to incorporate your offering as the essence for a logo.
On the designs you selected to highlight for ridicule they are both great logos. The BBC logo provides an essence of dependability and clarity of expression with it's solid structure and the Coca Cola logo says I'm a drink thats cool and refreshing. I'd recommend you amend your logo design but if it floats your boat then do use it.
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I don't want to dampen your enthusiasm or go ahead attitude, both of which are great.
However the logos do look a bit like they were designed by the Chairman's "niece", also known as the 17 year old barmaid from The Hen & Cluck he is boffing.
It might be embarrassing if your colleagues thought you were boffing the boss, no?
Just a thought.
However the logos do look a bit like they were designed by the Chairman's "niece", also known as the 17 year old barmaid from The Hen & Cluck he is boffing.
It might be embarrassing if your colleagues thought you were boffing the boss, no?
Just a thought.
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"hundreds of thousands of pounds designing one?"
yes thats really worth thousands of pounds, are you having a laugh? A two year kid could design that.
A red button with the words coca cola, with a picture of a coke bottle in the background. how ingenius that must have taken years of thinking to conjure up?
Anyway im going to stick with the third design, with a few modifications. Il show it to the boss. If at some point he wants to pay money il get him a professionally designed one. But you guys have to understand sometimes you can do things yourself and save hundreds of pounds.
someone said the logo must be clear concise and show what you do. In my third design it shows the letters A and F, the A is meant to represent a house (as they sell furniture for your HOME) the F is stuck on top (looking like an aerial) inside is a picture of a sofa and a lamp, showing you we sell these things amongst others, you couldnt get more clear, concise and informative than that without going ott.
A spade is a spade. Both their businesses/ogranizations are worth billions. You arn't. As to the comment about two year olds, if that is the case, then how come you didn't come up with something this good? Proof of the pudding is in the eating as they say.
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Sorry, they all scream out that you're an unprofessional business with inferior products. I'm not for a minute saying that you are or that the furniture you sell is inferior it's just the impression that those logos give. I know that if i were looking for furniture and seen any of those logo's on a website or advert i'd quickly move on to the next supplier.
I'm not one for going over the top about saying what a good logo can do for a business however IMO a bad logo can really damage your business.
Surely your boss can spare £50 to have someone do a decent one for you?
I'm not one for going over the top about saying what a good logo can do for a business however IMO a bad logo can really damage your business.
Surely your boss can spare £50 to have someone do a decent one for you?
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Not really sure if this thread is a wind but.
But firstly, rafhelp: Those are all dreadful. Sorry to be so blunt, but I can't believe someone would actually even consider representing their business in that way. A logo is something that portrays your company at every opportunity, your advertising, you stationery, website etcetc.... It should always be something that you are proud of and feel represents your company well.
In regard to the BBC and Coca Cola comments, I am sure hundreds of hours went in those logos. Whilst people may think a logo can just be hashed together in 10 minutes, this is incorrect.
A good logo requires a lot of research and effort and despite the bbc and coca cola brands costings thousands, I am sure they were thousands well spent as those are now Worldwide icons that are instantly recognisable.
Also, Final point: "Concur with the above. You can get superbly professional logos designed for as little as $5 these days if you go to a crowdsourcing site."
As a graphic designer, I don't think these sites that offer logos for $5 should be recommended at all. I spent years learning my craft and improving. For $5, you will get what you pay, a poor researched, poorly executed design, many of those people on those sites are kids. As I say you get what you pay, I would recommend you invest a decent amount into your logo, this way you get a top design, high quality and excellent communication with the designer. Please remember, a logo is the face of your company and first impressions do last.
Good luck with your business, but please don't use those logos
But firstly, rafhelp: Those are all dreadful. Sorry to be so blunt, but I can't believe someone would actually even consider representing their business in that way. A logo is something that portrays your company at every opportunity, your advertising, you stationery, website etcetc.... It should always be something that you are proud of and feel represents your company well.
In regard to the BBC and Coca Cola comments, I am sure hundreds of hours went in those logos. Whilst people may think a logo can just be hashed together in 10 minutes, this is incorrect.
A good logo requires a lot of research and effort and despite the bbc and coca cola brands costings thousands, I am sure they were thousands well spent as those are now Worldwide icons that are instantly recognisable.
Also, Final point: "Concur with the above. You can get superbly professional logos designed for as little as $5 these days if you go to a crowdsourcing site."
As a graphic designer, I don't think these sites that offer logos for $5 should be recommended at all. I spent years learning my craft and improving. For $5, you will get what you pay, a poor researched, poorly executed design, many of those people on those sites are kids. As I say you get what you pay, I would recommend you invest a decent amount into your logo, this way you get a top design, high quality and excellent communication with the designer. Please remember, a logo is the face of your company and first impressions do last.
Good luck with your business, but please don't use those logos
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stuart bloomsbury
My thoughts are the logos are absolutely horrific. They look like a 10 year old made them using the 1995 version of Microsoft Works.
You need to understand that if everyone on here is saying this about them then there is obviously something seriously wrong. You also need to understand that in business third party opinions are golden, people will always come up with comments that you never thought of and you need to listen to them. What is the point of posting on here and then rubbishing the comments? It begs the question why you posted in the first place - were you just fishing for positive comments to back up your own beliefs? Your comments on the BBC logo and Coca Cola logo also show you have no idea about what makes a successful logo work, and that you need professional design help.
Read this and you might realise that successful logo design does not always mean a successful logo has to be the most complex. Look at the iconic London Tube logo, Amazon, Google. None are overly complex, but all are exceedingly good examples of logo design.
http://www.truekolor.net/20-best-logos-with-hidden-meaning/
You need to understand that if everyone on here is saying this about them then there is obviously something seriously wrong. You also need to understand that in business third party opinions are golden, people will always come up with comments that you never thought of and you need to listen to them. What is the point of posting on here and then rubbishing the comments? It begs the question why you posted in the first place - were you just fishing for positive comments to back up your own beliefs? Your comments on the BBC logo and Coca Cola logo also show you have no idea about what makes a successful logo work, and that you need professional design help.
Read this and you might realise that successful logo design does not always mean a successful logo has to be the most complex. Look at the iconic London Tube logo, Amazon, Google. None are overly complex, but all are exceedingly good examples of logo design.
http://www.truekolor.net/20-best-logos-with-hidden-meaning/
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stuart bloomsbury
You also need to imagine how your logo would look when printed, and on various different mediums. Would for instance the cut out picture of the sofa look good on a letterhead or would it be too small and unintelligible? If displayed on a van, would customers catching a fleeting glimpse of it at the traffic lights understand in an instant what your business was called and what it is about?
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Root 66 Woodshop
Hi Rafhelp
The best way that I can come up with to show you how logo's actually work is by doing this...
Seriously now... which would you even consider buying after seeing the logo... the original one? or the one I've posted above?
By no means, I'm certain does anyone posting here mean any offence, they are offering guidance with something that you are struggling with, despite what anyone says take it all as advice.
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If anything, something similar to the one on the right is enough.. it's clear and concise but is it really what you want?
The best way that I can come up with to show you how logo's actually work is by doing this...
Seriously now... which would you even consider buying after seeing the logo... the original one? or the one I've posted above?
By no means, I'm certain does anyone posting here mean any offence, they are offering guidance with something that you are struggling with, despite what anyone says take it all as advice.
If anything, something similar to the one on the right is enough.. it's clear and concise but is it really what you want?
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Sorry, but that's just as bad as the originals and probably why you got it for $10.... Someone knocked that together in ten seconds with zero thought.
I would offer some critique but I'm not even sure where to begin, and you clearly haven't listened to previous advice from others.
Print that logo out, take a step back, show it to some friends, ask them what that logo says to them/ do they find it appealing/ do they find it easy to read/ does it say 'furniture company' to them.
Sometimes when you are doing some work for yourself it is easy to get wrapped up with it, step away for a few days, check out other furniture company logos and then come back with fresh eyes
I would offer some critique but I'm not even sure where to begin, and you clearly haven't listened to previous advice from others.
Print that logo out, take a step back, show it to some friends, ask them what that logo says to them/ do they find it appealing/ do they find it easy to read/ does it say 'furniture company' to them.
Sometimes when you are doing some work for yourself it is easy to get wrapped up with it, step away for a few days, check out other furniture company logos and then come back with fresh eyes
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