Logo Designs

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If you have the skills = DIY
If you don't = find someone who does

Remember every customer will see your logo, so cutting corners is penny wise, pound foolish.

Edit....I'm not a designer (far from it!) touting for work.:D
 
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I'll agree with the above replies. Get a pro to do it.
If you do decide to have a go yourself, do a bit of sketching/drawing first then get onto the computer. You'll need vector software like Illustrator, or you can download Inkscape for free. Also, stay away from Photoshop/GIMP!
For the number of bitmap logos I've had to vectorise for people who think they're designers 'cos they can use Photoshop, I should be very wealthy by now really!
 
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I'll agree with the above replies. Get a pro to do it.
If you do decide to have a go yourself, do a bit of sketching/drawing first then get onto the computer. You'll need vector software like Illustrator, or you can download Inkscape for free. Also, stay away from Photoshop/GIMP!
For the number of bitmap logos I've had to vectorise for people who think they're designers 'cos they can use Photoshop, I should be very wealthy by now really!

So basically what you're saying is Photoshop requires no skill?
 
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So basically what you're saying is Photoshop requires no skill?

Absolutely not. I know many amazingly skilled Photoshop users. What I'm saying is that because someone has a copy of, and can use Photoshop, it doesn't make them a designer.
I own various tools and know how to use a hammer, but I don't claim to be a carpenter or other trades person.
 
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Absolutely not. I know many amazingly skilled Photoshop users. What I'm saying is that because someone has a copy of, and can use Photoshop, it doesn't make them a designer.
I own various tools and know how to use a hammer, but I don't claim to be a carpenter or other trades person.

Glad you clarified, and I now agree. Apologies for being snappy, it's just I've been using Photoshop pretty much every day for over 10 years (hah, and I'm still learning, go figure) now and I may have been slightly hastily offended.:D Not to worry now though.
 
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Absolutely not. I know many amazingly skilled Photoshop users. What I'm saying is that because someone has a copy of, and can use Photoshop, it doesn't make them a designer.
I own various tools and know how to use a hammer, but I don't claim to be a carpenter or other trades person.

Well said :) I used a hammer once and I have do own one!

Vector software is used to create a logo.

We use vector so that you have a perfect resized image every time.

One day, you may want to create a large outdoor banner, or shop sign.

If you create a logo in Photoshop, then when you resize your graphic, it will be pixelated (would look choppy and of very poor resolution).

Also the transparency can be dreadful from a photoshop image.

I would recommend Pocket Money Designs as they have already posted in this thread.

I know Photoshop very well but really only use it to edit scanned images and the like.

Thanks,
Mark.
 
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Forgive my ignorance, but would it not do to make a large logo, then scale it down where necessary, thus having a large one to fall back on?

Doesn't work that way I'm afraid :)

If you wish to rescale the size of your image without loss of quality at whatever size from an original, then you must use a vector image.

You may of course create lots of logos using PS for different sizes but why would you do that when you can create a single design at the start.
 
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DesignerNick

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When you get a logo the more information and ideas you can give the easier it makes it for the designer.

If you were to pretty much show the structure of the logo but you just needed somebody to do the final bit then it shouldn't cost much at all.

I agree with logos having to be vector. When we work with clients on their website and they send us a tiny gif of their logo to work with there is nothing worse.

I think every logo should be vector. Makes life so much easier.
 
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We had a logo that was created for us, however due to the logo (no Idea why) everytime I needed it resized the designer had to do it, which is not great as every time I need a new size logo I had to contact him. Anyway I have recently changed our logo and have no Idea what people think of it, but it was quickly done by myself using X-header.
 
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I agree with logos having to be vector. When we work with clients on their website and they send us a tiny gif of their logo to work with there is nothing worse.

I think every logo should be vector. Makes life so much easier.

I have created letterheads, business cards etc for clients and they have asked me to use the logo from their website at 72dpi.

Usually means I end up redrawing it in Illustrator.
 
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evocart

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I know, If I decide to have another logo created then I will make sure I can easily resize it, there are a couple of things that I would like changing on my site including the top navagation menu and the main header image that the logo is on, but nothing massive or urgent at the moment.
 
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Well said :) I used a hammer once and I have do own one!

Vector software is used to create a logo.

We use vector so that you have a perfect resized image every time.

One day, you may want to create a large outdoor banner, or shop sign.

If you create a logo in Photoshop, then when you resize your graphic, it will be pixelated (would look choppy and of very poor resolution).

Also the transparency can be dreadful from a photoshop image.

I would recommend Pocket Money Designs as they have already posted in this thread.

I know Photoshop very well but really only use it to edit scanned images and the like.

Thanks,
Mark.

Wish I had know this before we had our logo done :( I wondered why I couldn't resize it well, wish I had a proper company do it now, just goes to show................

John.
 
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Wish I had know this before we had our logo done :( I wondered why I couldn't resize it well, wish I had a proper company do it now, just goes to show................

John.

You're more than welcome John :)

I have been in the print trade quite a bit now (18 years to be exact!).

So I do have an understanding from all aspects of any print and design job.

Qualified as a Graphic Designer in college.

Went on to be a No.1 Litho Printer running 4 colour presses.

Daily created the design work to actually printing the litho and digital job myself and sometimes finishing the job using print finishing equipment.

Currently own/operate websites that I have built after learning html, css, php etc over the last 3 years.

It is good to know what your talking about from actual and practical experience ...... :)

Over the years, I have also learned how to make a good brew/ cup of coffee and using a brush :D
 
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I originally tried using one of those "logo for £30" websites for my logo. After about 10 modifications, for which they did not listen to my requirements, I eventually gave up and stopped asking for modifications. Three months on, I have still not approved the logo, and the fact that nobody has contacted me to find out why says everything about the service of that company as far as I am concerned.

After coming accross LogoGuru, another one of those crowd desigining sites, I started a competition with about $250 prize money and I was delighted with the results. What I received was exactly what I was looking for.

My advice to anybody looking at running a logo competition is too put your money where you mouth is and offer a good prize to the winner, in order to attract more entries. Although I got just the logo I was looking for, in retrospect, I would have had more to chose from if my prize was perhaps $50-100 higher.
 
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This sums up exactly what I think about crowd sourcing...

freelanceswitch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/FF158_LogoContest-1.jpg

From a designers point of view you can put in hours of work and receive no return what so ever. There's no professional designer in their right mind that's going to do that. Use those sites and you're simply putting the graphic representation of your business in the hands of an amateur looking to get lucky and make a few quid.

Any positive reviews you hear about these sites will be from business owners who are more attracted by the word 'cheap' than the word 'quality'.
 
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Forgive my ignorance, but would it not do to make a large logo, then scale it down where necessary, thus having a large one to fall back on?

Hopefully this might help a little, it makes much more sense to design at a more typical size where you can scale upwards without loss of quality than to design on a huge scale in the first place, which is more awkward anyway.
 
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Hello John,

The pictorial element of your logo is actually pretty clever. The only thing I'm not sure about is the type.

What formats do you have your logo in at the minute?

The only way for the actual image you just posted to be 'converted' to a vector image is to have a designer trace over the pictorial element, identify what fonts have been used and recreate the logo in Adobe Illustrator.

If you still have the contact details of the designer who created your logo you can contact him and request that he sends you the logo in vector format, if not then I'll be happy to help you out.
 
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No idea about logo's personally but I really like yours! love how the fish is made from the plants! I'm having my logo designed professionally and its definatly worth the money. Although for me even though I can do basic skills, my logo needs to go onto products to be sold worldwide so doing it myself wasnt really an option! :)
 
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Go on then ;);)

Hello,

I would be happy to as promised.

Please use the contact form on my listing page for my new company dedicated to graphic design.

Will then have your correct details and email address.

After email confirmation, I will ask you to forward any current versions of your logo to me.

Hope to have delivery within 48 hours (would normally be sooner but you have caught me right in the middle of a few major projects).

Thanks,
Mark.

UK print and Design,
PrintingPages.
 
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WirralPrinters

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and true to his word, Mark has done a stunning job converting our logo to a fab vector one, awesome stuff, done in his own time FOC, fantastic, thanks Mark!

John.

John, you are more than welcome :)

It was a tricky one too, as we had to create the typeface used also.

Thanks again,
Mark.

Print and Design UK Associates,
PrintingPages.co.uk,
WirralPrinters.co.uk
 
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