Logo design and how to avoid disaster

Eagle

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Your logo is a graphic representation of your company name, trademark or brand. A unique, recognisable identity or 'corporate logo' has become an essential part of business strategy and success so it's vital that proper consideration be given to this aspect.

A few do's and don'ts!

Clipart!:

It's a big no-no. Period. It's extremely unlikely that you will ever be granted sole copyright of a logo which uses clipart - even if you purchased the clipart or it came with your software. In many cases, the use of clipart in logos is expressly forbidden in its terms of use (read the smallprint or End User Licence Agreement).

Using clipart can also seriously damage your credibility and lose you vital sales...

Special Effects:

Bevelled edges, drop-shadows and glowing edges seem to be everywhere these days. Sure, they can add drama when applied sparingly but they can also distract (and even detract) from your design. Another consideration is when you need to have the logo printed - you will need a high-end (and usually expensive) printer to produce the work adequately. Keep it simple!

Colours:

Light greys, shadows and/or gradients in logos do not fax or copy well! Printing designs with these attributes on certain items (t-shirts etc) can also be problematic and/or very costly. Ask your designer to provide a 'spot colour' version as well as the gradient colour version. You should also obtain a suitable version for faxing and black & white printing for use in Yellow Pages and the like.

Spot colour? The most effective logos (especially in terms of cost) are those with up to three colours or less. A design which uses spot colours can be matched with high accuracy again and again across many different media.

CMYK? Also referred to as '4 Colour Process'. This method must be used for printing full colour photos and designs containing gradients and/or drop-shadow effects accurately. Instead of a pre-mixed ink for each colour, the image is broken up into percentages of 4 standard colours: Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and Black (CMYK). Exact colours are achievable across different media but it can be difficult and takes more effort and expense.

Placement:

Westerners read from top to bottom, left to right. So why is your logo in the centre or right of your page? Placed at the top left of your web page, it's the first thing prospective clients will see - and that aids your branding efforts.

Text-Only Logos:

A text-only logo is usually only the preserve of large multi-national corporations who are already well-established in their industries. Nike is just one example of a company that doesn't need to use its symbol to differentiate them from their competitors - they've already achieved supreme brand awareness through countless years of marketing. They are at the stage where they can use either the name 'Nike' or 'the Swoosh' symbol on its own without fear of brand confusion.

Not so for the startup or SME who should always employ a graphic device that their audience will remember and one which will set them apart from their competitors.

Monograms:

Use of monograms (initials) will make it difficult to build credibility. Brand awareness will also take much longer to establish than for a standard logo.

Lifecycle:

The typical life-cycle of a logo could be as follows:

Year 1 to 5 - Graphic Element and Full Trading Name (••• Davis & Davis Electrical Ltd)
Year 6 to 10 - Graphic Element and Shortened Name (••• Davis & Davis)
Year 11 to 25 - Graphic Element and perhaps reduction of the name to a monogram (••• D&D)
Year 26+ - Lone use of either Graphic Element or Initials.

Monograms may look great initially, but it will make your branding efforts that much harder.

Complexity:

Complex illustrations and photos generally make very poor logos. Think about how its going to look when it's reduced to small size on a business card - will the client be able to make it out? For high impact, simple designs work best and are easier to remember. And for most designs - especially company logos, make sure it 'works' in black and white too!

File formats:

Many inexperienced/amateur designers will design your logo in Photoshop or some other bitmap image editor. Fine if all you'll ever need your logo for is on a website. But what if your online business really takes-off? You might one day need printed items and even need to display the logo on advertising hoarding or place it on company vehicles. The logo designed at web resolution will be pretty useless; as enlarging it will cause it to appear fuzzy and 'pixelated'. Insist on vector!

Professional designers will initiate your logo in a 'vector' application such as CorelDRAW or Illustrator. Vector designs can be enlarged or reduced infinitely meaning that your logo can be placed on anything from a matchbox to the side of a 747 without any loss of quality.

Your designer:

Avoid going for the cheap option. Many sites which provide a bidding system are populated with so-called 'agencies' who employ a cheap workforce from Asian and other countries. As such, you are unlikely to ever communicate with the designer directly and, because of their geographic location, they are unlikely to understand your business culture and ethos. Others include 'the teenager' sat in his bedroom running pirate software and pretending to be a seasoned graphic designer or agency. Sure, you'll only pay $40 for his efforts but ask yourself if you're really getting value for money?...

Copyright

Finally, insist that your chosen designer formally assigns you copyright of the artwork in writing. If they don't, you could find yourself on the receiving end of legal action in 20 years' time when they claim for backdated royalties!

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Many thanks for the detailed guidelines, Eagle. They are practical and helpful.

For anyone at the forum who is currently trying to come up with their own logo, I thought it might be useful if I explained how we arrived at ours. It took us quite some time, and I'm sure our process was not optimal, but at least it shows how one startup company designed its logo.

My business partner (Caroline) and I asked a friend (a part-time web designer) to help us. We started by identifying key attributes of our company: We are an online training company, we are professional (I have worked for some time as a senior manager) and academic (Caroline is a college professor), our market is global, and our registered company name is The Global Online Learning & Development Center, Inc. (or GOLD Center). Whatever we created needed to be consistent with these points.

We came up with an initial strawman quickly - a globe sitting beneath a mortar board. From this early attempt, we agreed that we should include a globe and use the two colours blue and gold (which are the colours of education in the US).

Over the next several weeks, we each came up with two or three design ideas. At the time, we were running an extensive beta trial of our courses. Since our beta class was a wonderfully enthusiastic group always looking to help us, we decided to post several designs on our website and ask for their feedback. Ironically, most liked the original strawman! The second favourite was a futuristic globe based on a design that Caroline found at a professional logo site.

The next few steps happened quickly. We took Caroline's futuristic globe and added a stand, something suggested by our designer. I applied the final touch by adding a golden circle inside the globe - giving the logo a GOLD Center, if you will. La voila - we had our logo!

We paid the logo site about 60 pounds for the right to use their futuristic globe, but the rest of the logo cost us nothing. The entire process took about 8 weeks... and a lot of patience!

As I compare the attributes of our logo with Eagle's guidelines, I think we did quite well:

- It's just two colours: blue and gold.
- The two colours represent learning.
- It's simple and easy to reproduce.
- It's distinctive and easy to recognize.
- The globe represents our global market.
- Our name is implied from the GOLD Center.
- It's at the top-left corner of our home page.

As a company owner, I'm pleased with the result. I'm sure we could have done better by hiring a professional designer and spending lots of money, but I'm a Cornishman ("short arms, deep pockets") and wanted to spend as little as possible.

So, that was the process we followed. It was a little haphazard, but maybe you can use some of these ideas as you come up with your own logo.

PS - I'd love to know what you think of our logo; you can see it at our website. Good and bad comments gratefully received!
 
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mindblend said:
On a side note, I like what you've done with Mambo on your site.

Thank you. You don't know how heart-warming your comment is.

Our web designer is a friend who does this kind of thing part-time. He had never used Mambo before, so this was a learning exercise for all of us. I know that there's so much more we could do to improve our site. I am reading messages and learning from the experience of the experts at this site, so our site will get better over time.
 
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Eagle said:
*Your designer:

Avoid going for the cheap option. Many sites which provide a bidding system are populated with so-called 'agencies' who employ a cheap workforce from Asian and other countries. As such, you are unlikely to ever communicate with the designer directly and, because of their geographic location, they are unlikely to understand your business culture and ethos. Others include 'the teenager' sat in his bedroom running pirate software and pretending to be a seasoned graphic designer or agency. Sure, you'll only pay $40 for his efforts but ask yourself if you're really getting value for money?...*
Hi and thanks for making some good points.

The owner of Domain Tools used an interesting method for obtaining a design for his logo.

He ran a competion, awarded a prize of a year's subscription and published the results. See: http://www.domaintools.com/logo-contest/

Must have been quite interesting to be on the receiving end of all that creativity. ;)

Richard
 
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What a great idea, I want to setup an interactive teaching materials website teachclick.com and would like to ask the forum members to design a logo.

The brief is very open.... inspire me :)

A little competition.. design me a logo for teachclick.com and win a years 100mb windows hosting.

Upload the logos onto this forum and we could even use forum members to critique and judge.
 
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It's worth thinking about colours.... If you are not getting it designed professionally then most people design using colours made up of RGB in my experience (Especially web designers!). If you are very keen on a colour and need to have things printed in full colour then you need to make sure that that colour can also be made up of CYMK or it will be a special ink on the press. ie. You will need to have it printed in 5 colours or more making it expensive. The only easy way to do this is to refer to Pantone books and check the colour mixes etc.....
 
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Very good thread Eagle. I am still in the process of setting up myself, and all information i can get is useful.

I have purchased a copy of Illustrator myself & have been playing with a few logo designs. Nice to know i am using the correct software. :)
 
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Eagle said:
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Avoid going for the cheap option. Many sites which provide a bidding system are populated with so-called 'agencies' who employ a cheap workforce from Asian and other countries. As such, you are unlikely to ever communicate with the designer directly and, because of their geographic location, they are unlikely to understand your business culture and ethos. Others include 'the teenager' sat in his bedroom running pirate software and pretending to be a seasoned graphic designer or agency. Sure, you'll only pay $40 for his efforts but ask yourself if you're really getting value for money?...*

This is a real problem for design agencies who are having to re-brand companies becasue they didn't invest in their brand initially. We find that some people coming for a Re-brand through Redwelly are currently using a clip-art logo, ready-made off the internet logo or one that a friend did for them FOC to build thier portfolios.

This is one reason why we launched YEM Small Business Design Packages (see http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=20389)
 
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Eagle

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It very much depends on your target market but it's ok I think. The kerning is a little out (the space between the 'P' and the rest of the text). Is the grey box behind it part of the logo, or just how it's set on the site? If it is, exact brand consistency might be a problem - it won't work in black and white as it is.

Easy on the eyes but does it 'say' what your sales mission is? (And do you want it to?...) :wink:
 
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