Launch a new MAGAZINE

Rimz

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Hi There All

I am new to this site and this is my first time! I am hoping to meet like minded people who have ideas and are just starting off.

Recently I had an idea that has been 'bugging' me for weeks days, I cant sleep eat or think about anything else! lol...

I would like to start and launch a new magazine for my local area BUT really don't know where to start?

I have been browsing on the web but it really doesn't tell me how this 'business' works?

Does anyone know how this 'business' works?

Would love to hear from you :)

Rimz
 

loubycee

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Was just going to say the same, there are franchises around for local free mags - you work VERY hard to get people to advertise in it every month though, are there any franchising events going on in the next few months that you can go to?

Have you tried Business Link?

Have you looked at websites, it's easy to find all manner of franchises in your area - http://www.thefranchisemagazine.net/

Good luck and welcome!
 
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sonnas

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i had some friends setup a hiphop / urban underground music magazine a while ago. it had excellent articles, interviews with really influencial people, reported all the good happenings within the scence.

it failed, no matter how good the content was because it failed to see the importance of advertisers, believeing people wud appreicate an article rich magzine, not filled with adverts.
 
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sonnas

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the main thing was one of them has a rich father bank rolling the project. if it didnt it wud of folded a lot earlier - and burnt through(wasted) a lot less cash.

by the time the dad sent in one of his advisors to try and sort it out it had gone through too much and he decided to stop backing it.

ur right- its a very fine balance - i dont want to read a mag stuffed with just ads, but then teh right adverts do enhance the magazine, and bring in much needed revenue.
 
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oldeagleeye

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A local magazine is a complete no-brainer even if you had marketing skills

A National magazine is a complete no-brainer even if you hd £1 million quid to throw at it.

Solution to not being able to eat of sleep. Half a Tablespoon of Andrews or Eno's Stick thumb in mouth and go back to sleep. You be as bright eyed as an eagle in the morning and able to look for a viable opportunity.:eek:

Warning. Only half a tablespoon mind you. Take any more and your be up at 5 am scaring the birds off.
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Rob

Some stats. Cost of printing a local magazine. About £400 per page. You can NOT charge cover price so have to rely on advertising. Rates for a page in a small local mag. £40 per page max. Net loss £360 per page.

Stay well away from franchises too then.
 
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regeek

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Think also of iPad / iPhone /Android apps as media for your message.
This thing is growing fast.
Never start online media before you have 4000Kb or more of actual relevant semantically clean text content.
And the previous mentions of "know what you are doing" are quite relevant.
 
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glossymagcompany

It costs me around £21.00 per page to publish my 32 page colour, glossy local community magazine. It works well with decent profit on advertising while keeping good quality content each month.

However, unless you don't know how to run a magazine publishing business you can go it alone. But most people are new to the business and need support.

There are some very reasonable deals around by way of franchises or licences, you just need to keep you eyes open :)

Local magazines can be a real income earner once you know how.
 
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S-Marketing

It costs me around £21.00 per page to publish my 32 page colour, glossy local community magazine. It works well with decent profit on advertising while keeping good quality content each month.

However, unless you don't know how to run a magazine publishing business you can go it alone. But most people are new to the business and need support.

There are some very reasonable deals around by way of franchises or licences, you just need to keep you eyes open :)

Local magazines can be a real income earner once you know how.

What is the point in trying to appear to give useful, unbiased advice when your username and your less than perfect site, tell us you are a spammer?
 
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glossymagcompany

[FONT=&quot]I've never spammed in my life.

I was not advertising, Stretchy.

My reply was truthful, what I stated is a fact.

I didn't ask you, pull you or push you into researching, it was your choice.

Someone commented on the price of running a magazine.
I gave my current situation as a, hopefully, helpful guide.

My username remains the same no matter what the thread topic is.

I'm sorry that you didn't like the website. Everybody's website is less than perfect that is why we work on them as we go.[/FONT]
 
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S-Marketing

[FONT=&quot]I've never spammed in my life.

I was not advertising, Stretchy.

My reply was truthful, what I stated is a fact.

I didn't ask you, pull you or push you into researching, it was your choice.

Someone commented on the price of running a magazine.
I gave my current situation as a, hopefully, helpful guide.

My username remains the same no matter what the thread topic is.

I'm sorry that you didn't like the website. Everybody's website is less than perfect that is why we work on them as we go.[/FONT]

But you still felt the need to change your homepage? Even you knew that it was far too obvious that you were a spammer.
 
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glossymagcompany

[FONT=&quot]I've read all of the posts you've made since October 2010 and you 'self promote' more than once. In fact, you had to edit one of your posts to make it clear that you weren't self promoting, although, in effect, you were doing exactly that.

Don't judge others when you are 'less than perfect' yourself.
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oldeagleeye

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Martyn

I am not concerned about the self promotion most members do it although some more subtle than others. What does concern me is that you post is totally misleading if one takes the info on your web site at face value.

First of all there is no clarification if this printed mag is A4 or A5. Lets assume it is A5 and you claiming a cost per page of £21 on a 32 page booklet. Come on that has to be a net cost to you personally from your own printing company. Any other punter would have to pay at least that. Indeed you charging 89 quid for a double sided a5 flyer in your mag and lets be honest here. It is your mag designed to promote the franchise operation.

I can't see it is an independent money earner. You have for instance what 3.5 pages of promotions. 1 full page I think the trick box. Is that a paid for advert or as I suspect a friend who has a few mags in his shop and you give him and advert. I didn't check but that may be the case with several other 'advertisers'.

Now frankly I don't give a hoot what your rack rates say you would be hard put to sell an A5 page at £40 quid with a tiny circulation of just 5000.

You are lucky if your getting £120 a month back from that mag at a cost of at least £700 quid + running around and editorial. I think that the whole exercise then is designed to sell the franchises and at a whooping £5,000 quid.

What does the punter get for that money. Not a lot. This forum would soon find them a printer so what is left. A free on-line Yudu mag where any fool could upload a few PDFs.

All in all I really would re-think your marketing strategy Martyn because neither the mag or the franchise stand up to even the most casual scrutiny.

Rob
 
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glossymagcompany

Hi Rob, Thanks for your reply where I totally agree with your first point … what a waste of time arguing about self promotion, now I ask you. But now, at least, back on topic :)

My magazine is A5, colour glossy on 115gsm paper, 32 pages and I print 5000 each month.

There are 6 other magazines using the same A5 format but a couple are 130gsm paper and have many more pages. My issue with them is that they have turned into what I call 'Ad Mags' where there is hardly any content and, of course, they'll get put straight into the bin.

When testing with surveys, it has been found that this kind of magazine is kept in the house/office for a few weeks, often until the next issue arrives so, the value of advertising in them out weighs that of the much more expensive newspapers where your advert lasts for one evening and is then discarded.

It's not 'just' 5000 copies, as the fact that people keep the magazines, because of the quality and useful information enclosed, the advertisements get much more exposure and exposure more often than that of newspapers, for example, even though they have higher circulation.

Turning over £7000.00 per month from publishing this type of mag isn't unheard of.

I decided I didn't want my magazine to turn into one of the aforementioned Ad Mags so I purposely charge more for advertising but then turn them into 'features' rather than have tons of quarter page ads.

A lot of my income is 'hidden' by such features. All of the 'advertorials' are paid for by the advertiser.

Yes, I do discount when they make bookings for three months or longer. They also get listings on my websites and a Business Internet Directory.

Add-ons, like Internet marketing of various descriptions can bring extra income, of course.


We know YuDu is a free service but the links stay live and show up on search engine results pages, which is a bonus.


The cost per page is correct for me. My magazine is nothing to do with the franchise company you referred to. They asked me if my magazine could be used as an example of what such a publication could look like and I agreed. It's good exposure for the people who advertise on the front (and back, as it happens) cover.

You mention that I'd be 'hard put' to sell an A5 full page ad at £40 … mine sell for £160.00.

Some areas can get higher rates than others. I charge £65.00 for a quarter page while a magazine in the next county to me charges just £45.00.

On to whether it's worth paying for a franchise or licence. When I started out, I joined a company as a franchisee. It was the right thing to do as I'd never published hard copy local magazines before and needed the support, content, printing, accounts, distribution, sales training and all the other things that go into running a magazine. However, after around two years of paying monthly management fees but not needing support, I decided to 'go it alone'. I learned enough to do so.

I could never have been in control of my own business publishing magazines if I hadn't have learned the ropes by becoming a franchisee.

What does the punter get for their money? They're buying a licence to run the licensors system which includes full support, no ongoing management fees, low cost printing, an online magazine production system with accounts, an Internet marketing system with built in add-on business opportunity to offer their customers, a fully functional magazine website with Business Internet Directory, content for their magazines, the expertise of the licensing team, a graphics expert to put their magazine together for them if they choose not to produce it themselves using desktop publishing software, a high-spec laptop computer loaded with all they need to get started, advice and online training with email support, telephone support all day- evenings and weekends, licensor will help sell your magazine if the need arises, current licence price is just £3794 and there's no VAT to pay on that amount at the moment.

All in all they get all the help and guidance they need to start their very own local magazine business with ongoing support and content whenever they need it.

As I stated earlier there are a number of other magazines in my region that are doing very well, some have been running for 5 years or longer. If they weren't viable, which you seem to think they aren't, why are they still going?


I think whether they are successful or not is in the mind of the person who is looking at the opportunity. If you think positively and don't mind the small risk involved to get started, then it's a very viable business that can work and does work for thousands of people all over the UK.

It really can be part time hours for a full time wage, if you like.


The first three or four issues do take harder work, though, but that's understandable.



If you don't think that it'll work for you, then it won't.

I don't need to re-think my marketing strategy, even after your 'most casual scrutiny' Rob, as I KNOW it works, I'm doing it and so are plenty of other people.

The guy who runs the franchising business that you refer to (it's a licence not a franchise but that isn't important here) has had almost 20 years in the business and has run 7 magazines all at adjoining territories in the past. All of his former magazines are still running even after he sold them on.

I stick to my original posting, because it's accurate and honest.

Cheers Rob, a refreshing reply that brought us back on topic.

PS: NEVER give away free ads because someone keeps mags in their shop for you. They get extra business when someone goes into the shop to pick up the latest issue and they often buy something while they're there. Your magazines are free, of course.
 
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ThePublisher

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Lets assume it is A5 and you claiming a cost per page of £21 on a 32 page booklet. Come on that has to be a net cost to you personally from your own printing company. Any other punter would have to pay at least that. Indeed you charging 89 quid for a double sided a5 flyer in your mag and lets be honest here. It is your mag designed to promote the franchise operation.

I can't see it is an independent money earner.

Now frankly I don't give a hoot what your rack rates say you would be hard put to sell an A5 page at £40 quid with a tiny circulation of just 5000.


Rob

I have never heard of The Glossy Mag Company before today, but just to say that the figures they are quoting are not dissimilar to what I'm paying - £21.28 per A5 page for an 80 page magazine on a print run of just under 4000, that's with one of the UK magazine specialist printers. My other 56 page magazine comes out at £24.32 with just over 4000 copies.

I do love it when I see people telling others it's impossible to make a living out of small local magazines, after all, why would I want them to encourage more competition for myself or those of us in the know!

To the OP (who seems to have lost interest anyway), believe Rob, there's no money to be made in small magazines..... (I've only been printing mine for 6 years).....
 
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