Is now the right time?

lepetitpapillon

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Hello

I've just discovered this forum and am already loving it - so much great advice!

It's been a lifelong dream of mine to own a gift boutique (quality gifts, interior accessories, jewellery - that you can't find on every high street) and I'm serioiusly thinking of finally taking the plunge.

There's a lot to think about before I go ahead and do it but I was disappointed to hear a a former boss and gift shop owner say 'I'm not sure now's the right time...' when I asked for her advice.

What are your thoughts? If the economic climate was as it is now when you were first starting out, would you have gone ahead anyway?

Thanks in advance.
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Mike W

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    Swings and roundabouts. At times like these, your start up costs may be lower due to better deals being around. You should be able to squeeze better rates and terms for your premises, stock etc. In busier times, costs would probably be higher.
     
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    Billmccallum

    Depends where the shop is and what you sell.

    It's not important what the financial climate is like, its if you have what your customer wants.

    Previous advice is good, you can squeeze a little more on rents and specialised products when times are hard.

    More importantly, don't spend more than you can afford to lose and ensure you have enough cash on hand to cover your costs for the first six months.
     
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    As others have said. Doesn't really matter when you set a business up. It's all about where and how it is created.

    For interior accessories, depending on the type of product, you'll do better in a popular and affluent area where you can shove your designer boutique between a lovely set of luxury shops.

    Online is harder for interior accessories as people tend to browse and then go and buy in-store. They want to see and feel the product before making a purchase, interior accessories tend to be a bit more expensive so people take their time.
     
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    deniser

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    Gift shops have completely vanished from where we are; there used to be lots but they have all closed down. I'm not sure that all purpose gift shops really work anymore. I've seen at least 10 close in a small area. Even when there were only one or two left they didn't pick up the leftover trade of the others.

    I think the problem was that none really had an identity although they had various styles eg, shabby chic, French, rustic, New England, glam etc. I think you probably have to be in handbags or jewellery or furniture and doing a bit of everything doesn't work except in very limited possibly touristy areas. There are loads of lovely boutiquey gift shops in Cornwall for example for people to furnish their holiday homes from and buy souvenirs.

    If you get the location right there is surely still a market for this type of shop but you need to do your research really carefully and stay away from locations with lots of chain stores.
     
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    Lee Jones Jnr

    There is never a good or bad time to start a business, if you can make it work then it will. When offering something that nobody else is selling it is worth investigating wether you have discovered a gap waiting to be filled or a market for which there is no demand.
     
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    philipmoll

    the financial climate is not the vital factor for you to start your own business. even in this well financial climate no one can sure you can achieve your dream. So before starting it, do much research and lead the product launching projects, such as the product positioning and planning. I hope this can help u.. good luck
     
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    It is always a great time to start up in business when an economy is coming out of recession.

    You have two choices either look to open a shop from scratch, or find an existing gift shop business that you can buy and start to put your mark on it.

    Are you sure that your ex boss was not trying to put you off starting up in business because they were worried about the competition.

    The people who are the most successful in business are often the ones who didnt listen to advice from others trying to put them off.

    Concentrate on your business plan not well meaning friends and I am sure you will be successful
     
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    SillyJokes

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    why not help your business plans by going to the Spring Fair in early Feb. You'll find all the suppliers you need and be able to work out some figures.

    Be warned however, suppliers are not good sources of information about what will sell well.
     
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    lepetitpapillon

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    Thanks for all your comments/advice.

    I did wonder if my ex-boss might have been worried about competition.

    SillyJokes - I took your advice and went to the slightly smaller Top Drawer yesterday so am armed now with some idea of trade prices.

    Lots of research still to do!
     
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    Jeff FV

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    Thanks for all your comments/advice.

    I did wonder if my ex-boss might have been worried about competition.

    SillyJokes - I took your advice and went to the slightly smaller Top Drawer yesterday so am armed now with some idea of trade prices.

    Lots of research still to do!

    Did you see us? We're currently exhibiting at Top Drawer - proving to be very succesful for us (currently writing this'from the world's smallest hotel room!)

    Get in touch with me (via PM) in week or so - give us a chance to get back to dots and spots HQ and ship out all the orders we've taken - and I'll be happy to have a chat from a suppliers point of view (we supply high quality, design led shops) with no obligation or pressure to buy from us!

    Jeff
     
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    Doodle-Noodle

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    We set up in November 2008, opening up about a week after it was announced that Britain was officially in recession, we'd already spent a fortune on securing the lease on our shop premises and fitting it out so there was no way we were going to back out at that point, but we couldn't have timed it worse really.
    That said, although we're not making a huge amount of money we are holding our own, we've still a long way to go before we get to where we want to be and currently all profits are still being ploughed back into the business on new stock etc.

    There is a definite move away from the High Street chain stores in my opinion - large shopping centres are the same the whole country over and while there will always be a great customer base for this, there is a smaller more independent minded customer base out there actively looking for more unusual gifts, and they are prepared to pay for the individuality that shops like us can offer.
    Jewellery is our best seller, by quite a long way (ours is all hand made), but we do very well with personalised items and as both my sister and I are able to do this ourselves on just about anything from glass to wood, fabrics, canvasses and cards etc, we have built up a reputation for being able to provide the unexpected. Our customers are mostly local and therefore really like the idea that so much of our stock is actually made by local artists and crafters.
    We do, of course, also buy some stock in and are careful to select products which sit well with our handmade and unusual gift range. We as a shop make good profit from these. We also earn income from our 63 artists, charging them a monthly rental fee for their space and a commission on their sales - this income covers almost all our shop rental - although this also means that most of what we take on handmade goods gets handed over to the artists at the end of each month!. We have a waiting list for shelf space in our shop, with jewellery makers being the most prolific of crafters, followed by card makers.
    It's definitely not an easy time for any retailer, but when you are simply selling gorgeous things that lots of people might want but nobody really needs it is always going to be tough.
    Look at your potential customer base very carefully, factor in all your posible expenses and then double it, work out what you will need to take every day in order to cover those costs and be completely realistic as to how many people willl actually spend in your shop. We get lots of people through our door that say "Oh, what a beautiful shop" spend an hour walking around lookng at everything and then leave having bought nothing. Most of these will come back when they need to buy a present, but it never fails to disappoint when that happens!
    You asked would we open a new gift shop in a recession - if we'd known we probably wouldn't have, but I still think we did the right thing and that it will, ultimately, provide us with a nice comfortable living ........... we'll just have to be patient!
     
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    tree568

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    Doodles,

    I like the idea of your renting out your space to local crafters so that your shop rental was covered. What a great business strategy.

    There's a gift shop just around the corner from us (in a reasonably affluent area of the city). Their shop looks really nice but they lack the "unique" factor of local crafters/artists. I heard from one of the other retailers that they weren't doing that well and are thinking of closing their doors, even though they own the shop so don't have to factor the high cost of rent into their profits.

    If I wanted mass produced gifts I would go and buy them cheaply, at somewhere like IKEA. I'd much rather buy unique things that cost a bit more but which I really want and which I or the recipient will still be wearing/using in 20 years time. It's the economic climate. In bad times there is always a flight to quality. That's why the top notch shops barely notice there's a recession.
     
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