Is it worth buying backlinks? if so where would you recommend?

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I bought several links last year, am never scared to do this, and just want to let others know that links are good, will make the difference between you and the next guy, whose only strategy is to spam low traffic sites with zero link profile.

I'd take 20 related links over 200 untargeted ones anyday of the week, free, paid or whatever. Its my visitors I care about, what they find, what they do etc once on my site/s, and rather please them by sending them to something relevant and targeted that helps them.
 
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How can you say that in a public forum?

I have witnessed sites bomb in Google when a linkbuilding programme by an agency was only 3 months in. The Directors were clueless about SEO and believed every word that the agency told them. They didn't have time or knowledge to check their work, so left them to it.

Linkbuilding should be done manually, with thought and consideration. Good links are not easy. Irrelevant links and links with no value are really easy to find and buy.

Fiverr.com is a great example, 3,000 links for $5. Scraped / Xrumer profiles and blog comments. Save yourself $5 and go and have a pint to celebrate your good business judgment.

If you have a couple of hours a week, even if it's half an hour a day, take time to research relevant sites online that are themed with the industry and site you wish to promote.

Having said all that, backlinks are not SEO, they are a portion of the whole SEO pie and should not be focussed on soley thinking that's how sites rank in search engines.

Ever heard of trackback spider?
Computer programme that tricks sites into thinking they have reciprocal links.
I used it on a website that I no longer use (moral judgement got the better of me eventually). Absolutely no relevance whatsoever was considered in the links, yet it took my website to page one of Google.
Could your comment be swayed slightly by the fact that you want to convince us all to pay you (SEO companies in general) vast sums of money to do what a $99 computer program does for free?

There is a danger of search engines sandboxing (?) your site if you have too many unnatural looking links, or if the number of links grows too quickly, and yes relevant links may be more beneficial than irrelevant links, but irrelevant links will not harm your search engine ranking - in my own personal experience.

As for a couple of hours a week, my competition has thousands of backlinks, yes given several years of plugging away I could reach the bottom of page one, but if at best you can post 6 quality relevant links an hour, it would take me ten years to post 6000 links, which probably have a shelf life of about 12 months on average.
I want to be ranked number one on google NOW :D
 
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Sandboxing occurs far to easily these days, good links or not.

The need for links has devalued in my opinion so you can get much more value from less links.

I think blackhatters are obviously laughing but sure it were supposed to be opposite when Google let out the penalties and changes.

Quality goes as a rule though
 
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I've put 50,000 links on a website in a 72 period and they have not been sandboxxed.

It's a complete myth in my opinion.

If you want to try the effect of paid links I can provide as many as you like.

Lets say 3 volunteers, all willing to put their site out there publicly, 3 keywords each with their current ranking and 10,000 links per week over 3 months.

Lets do a proper test on a new thread to cut out the BS by retards who have probably never done a real SEO case study in their life yet alone ranked a site.

I've not used the software in over a year, so it could be a sweet thing.

Lets actually test rather than speculate.

Who is game?
 
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    Ever heard of trackback spider?

    No.

    Could your comment be swayed slightly by the fact that you want to convince us all to pay you (SEO companies in general) vast sums of money to do what a $99 computer program does for free?

    No. Put on your glasses, I was directing the OP to do it themselves.

    I want to be ranked number one on google NOW :D

    Sure thing, send me 20p by Paypal I'll have it done by 8pm
     
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    terryuk

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    Kind of pointless when it ranks #1 for the stuff I want it to ;)

    In fact for my main term it ranked #1, #3, #4 #7 and #10 through various pages till Google cut down on that.

    Is that done by 10,000 spam comments a week too?

    I won't be putting my any of my sites forward, but it will be interesting.

    Out of curiosity, your website went straight to #1 or it were ranking no where before hand (ie sandbox)
     
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    Ste Hughes

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    I didn't use the bot, it was done through other techniques.

    I wouldn't use the bot on a client or my own site, put it that way.

    Not because I believe they have a negative impact but because of Google devaluing the links and after a number of months of ranking through this you can fall on your face with too many links from 1 source. The worth of a blog comment now has got to be next to nothing but when you can build 100k a week easy there has to be some format.

    I believe in a varied and diverse link profile for the better long term results but for the sake of $70 the software was worth a buy.

    I think for a site with short term goals (event promotion or something of this nature) the bot is very good.

    The bot is called scrapebox - very powerful once you look at all the stuff you can do with it!
     
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    No. Put on your glasses, I was directing the OP to do it themselves.

    Sorry ate, I'm so used to everyone just plugging their own enterprise I missed that.

    Look for the bad in people and you will never be disappointed, eh?

    Joking aside, am I missing something obvious? My competition is PR 3-4, aside from months of trawling the net looking for relevant blogs, on decent PR sites that don't tag comments 'no follow' is there an easy way to get good search ranking quickly?

    My site is produced by a parent company, I have an affiliate website, over which I have no control. Terms of my agreement state I cannot directly advertise products - keeps it fair for everyone (that way n-one gets anywhere fast)
     
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    ummm so if i have a website about baking cakes and i get a link from a porn site do you think the big G will still give me some credit for that link....

    Its even more important now to gain backlinks from relevant websites.

    I'd prefer a high PR "irrelevant" link over a PR0 relevant one anytime.

    Relevance is so much more subtle than most people have picked up on. Some figure 'site relevance' is important, while others contend it's 'page relevance' that matters. Some think nothing is related, and others think everything is...
     
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    I'd prefer a high PR "irrelevant" link over a PR0 relevant one anytime.

    Relevance is so much more subtle than most people have picked up on. Some figure 'site relevance' is important, while others contend it's 'page relevance' that matters. Some think nothing is related, and others think everything is...
    Totally agree...
     
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    I just want to talk about the 'Free Links' concept.

    The only way of truly knowing anything IS to DIY and see what happens..

    We worked out how to send out hundreds of thousands of visitors in bulk very quickly indeed. People do make very basic mistakes when doing link building, BUT its probably more they just don't know what to look for eg: the good Vs bad examples. And copying the wrong link profiles is the number one error in 99% of cases today.

    You need the following:

    Links of enough quantity to boost you and get you into a position quickly. A few hundred blog links is NOT enough to build a profile with eg: the links won't be traffic drivers....

    Links of quality (much harder to do) - mainly as you dont own or control the sites that drive the traffic eg: many think writing an email in bulk is a sure way for acceptance to the big or niche sites - wrong!

    Note: People are busy - they dont want tons of link swap mails from naff blogs or sites which have zero to do with their offering to their visitors, so if you don't own what they want - suggest you start building a site that does. Trouble is, where content sites exist, is done badly using blog software and thus looks cheap anyway and won't impress - and its just better to be on a nicely designed website period. So a proper website is the only option here, if you go the content route, the aim being to get links from authorities, well, as many as possible - but for that, you need to be of equal standing, sadly - few will be and thus another problem materialises......

    The right kind of sites to obtain links on

    Link swaps are ofcourse Favours and as such require the favour back, which is the difficult bit eg: how to convince the favour.

    Good use of link space is University Resource pages/sections. Always highly ranked (pageranks of 8/9 aren't uncommon) , masses of links within their sections, useful info/content, usually attractive, solid key info, embedded links, images, - not overloaded, yet sells the service well. Obviously, this is an example of an info-based site, and most industries have either an official site/string of resources that use links.

    The above industry sites have tons of links and likely tons more begging to be included, and that's the trigger here - people killing for inclusion which is the key, BUT their picky and its my guess the links they use are selected by themselves, so they control what is placed. Control being the word here.

    But I think Uni sites aside, anything of quality will be tough to impossible to get onto for free, but you could say that about anything that has power so..... question is how far are people prepared to go to get links, maybe its just too difficult these days. But paying WILL get you on, so, how bad do you want on? - if its just to pinch a freebie or two, then quality isn't going to want you and that's it, sad but true.

    Money talks and bs walks...
     
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    A link from an authority site which is relevant to your particular niche is better value than many other forms of links, which is why guest posting has become so popular in recent months.

    Guest posting provides the means to get not only links but also exposure and traffic from related resources.

    It is possible to guest post on PR4, PR5 resources that have good domain authority (DA30+) in a number of fields such as finance, travel, lifestyle etc. Pretty much any area is covered.
     
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    I would suggest that trying to buy many backlinks wouldn't be the way to increase your website ranking in search result pages. If that was so easy then everyone would be in the first page of the results. Your should better add your website to web directories and then build up the number of links your website has got that way. Or you could try to email other web masters and ask them to link up to your website and offer to exchange links with them.


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    I would suggest that trying to buy many backlinks wouldn't be the way to increase your website ranking in search result pages. If that was so easy then everyone would be in the first page of the results. Your should better add your website to web directories and then build up the number of links your website has got that way. Or you could try to email other web masters and ask them to link up to your website and offer to exchange links with them.


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    So paid guest posts will not help rankings, but free web directories will?

    Sorry, but I call BS.
     
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    but free web directories will?

    Advertising ROI depends so much on each platform's offering.

    Quite a few directories and many other sites have already embraced video - many obviously have images and logos etc. On the whole, I'd say directories have improved slightly in their offerings - the added benefits are usually company logo and additional links for free included in the standard listing.

    Sales text offering benefits to SEO etc etc. Most offerings may not be obvious, so its worth checking with the site owner for details.
     
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    I would suggest that trying to buy many backlinks wouldn't be the way to increase your website ranking in search result pages. If that was so easy then everyone would be in the first page of the results.

    I disagree.

    If you search Google for "factoring" at least three of the results on the first page have used the services of a link builder and the company at the top of page two is a fairly new website that has shot up from nowhere with the benefit of loads of inbound links
     
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    As can be seen from the replies, the question divides opinion. The problem relates to the fact that Google changes its algo frequently and as such can cause confusion as to what is the best course of action. However in terms of backlinks, most would agree that a relevant themed backlink from an authority site within a related or the same niche will be generally considered the best form of backlink. Guest posting offers this, which is why it is so popular at present. However, quality is the important element in all of this, so ensure that the article you write and the guest post resource are high quality.
     
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    But most of the traffic comes from google

    Does it, or is that merely a stock, handy statement of unresearched banter from folk who dont actually know where their traffic comes from?

    Did you know that a basic stats agent (external source) can tell you that 70% of hits to a website will click away within 30 seconds! That's not an uncommon thing for websites. That's lost traffic..

    I'd suggest many don't know where their traffic comes from. If you asked them, they might say a search engine, but that's such a small percentage as lots of sites are not linked to en-mass enough or at all, and will keep relying on unrelated article/blog linking methods. Most sites get a high bounce rate, so the traffic they get is pointless anyway - the traffic is not sticking around to do anything.

    So their traffic might be UK based - great.... - but it bounces off too fast to be worth anything. Their stats checker says 12k visitors, nice! - nice ego boost right.... but its pants traffic :eek:
     
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    From my perspective buying links is not a good choice. There are two reasons why:-

    1) It is not ethical in Google eye.

    2) You can get natural backlinks through other mode of online marketing.
     
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    From my perspective buying links is not a good choice. There are two reasons why:-

    1) It is not ethical in Google eye.

    2) You can get natural backlinks through other mode of online marketing.

    1. So we should listen the company who sells the most links on the internet ? I don't think so.

    2. Not for everyone, some site need to buy links to get their site noticed.

    Absolutely nothing wrong with buying links, you just need to but real quality links and these don't come in packs of 100 or indeed 2,000,000 like I saw today on one site :)
     
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    In Googles last alg update it has made it essential that you choose carefully the quality of back links. Buying off Fiverr.com sounds great but if those links have bad rating in Google then your site will suffer. Even Wordpress has developers working on plugins that will search out worthless or bad backlinks.
    You want backlinks from the same niche if possible or an authority site that is going to be around for a few years. Interestingly Youtube is a great place for getting good backlinks. When we upload a video we always put our or a clients url in the description box.
    Article Directories such as Hub etc used to be great for getting backlinks off articles you were able to get approved.
    If you produce enough videos on your niche and upload them to your channel in youtube your channel can become a authority site for backlinks - no wonder there are many worthless videos in there.
     
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