Is being a part of Constructionline, really worth it?

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Root 66 Woodshop

Simple question really.

Is Constructionline really worth it for someone in my trade?

We're not involved in construction at any level at all, however in some cases we do install barriers and gates, but there's not really that many enquiries for these.

Granted, installing access control systems involves drilling a hole in a wall from time to time...

Would a Locksmith really benefit from being a part of Constructionline, or would it be a complete waste of time and effort, when all we really do is install locks on Wooden, UPVC and Aluminium doors?
 

zshane

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Being registered with contructionline has not bought any business for the past 2 years.

So in relation to your question, I dont think it is worth it at all.

My view of constructionline is that it is designed for the big boys and even then, is an add on when applying for tenders. So it's good to have along with your other accreditations you have obtained.

Hope that helps.
 
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muppetdave

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Depends on where your target market is, and I am guessing on the whole it's not the same one that Constructionline is designed for. It was established originally in the main for the Public Sector, as a pre-qualification. Like many other of these systems, it never really got used fully, although some Public Sector bodies do use, and if you are not a member you won't get any work.

If you're predominantly a domestic locksmith, I'd spend the money elsewhere.
 
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Root 66 Woodshop

That's the thing though... we're not. We run during business hours really, as we currently have over 200 account holders.

We provide our services to the public sector to, that's where I think it maybe a requirement, in order to get more business from them... However our local council, despite using my company for over 15 years, over past 2 years have decided to use other means of installations of electronic access control.

So much so, after attending one site and pointing out a couple of flaws with the installation (which was definitely needed due to this system being installed in a primary school!) despite the Caretaker himself knowing the issues where there and reporting them himself, I was actually accused of slanderous comments against the electricians that installed the system, by the Architect that works for the council that hadn't even been to site to sign off the installation! LOL!

This particular person actually came into my showroom last year, with plans of said school asking me to provide a quotation (without visiting the site!) for the access control that he'd actually had installed by this other company... His excuse for not using my company was that we were not a part of Constructionline... which I know is a load of tosh!
 
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Cov2000

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Don't bother if you have the choice. We have to sign up to work for the local council and it has no benefit other than being able to work for them. No other work or opportunities have come of it.

Remember to join with them you will also have to satisfy the H&S side of things, which means joining a scheme like CHAS. These have just changed from a bi-annual assessment to an annual assessment and also increased the charge for it to around £150.

So all in all you're looking at spending at least £300 per year on membership, and expect at least one full working day wasted with all the paperwork each year.
 
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crphillips

It depends on who you want to work for and the size of the jobs you would expect.

If you get a 50k job for the council then it would be worth it. If you get a £50 job from it for the council then probably not.

The whole thing is a load of tosh that anyone can get......it's all about paying your fee's and getting shafted up the bum by the big boys!
 
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Root 66 Woodshop

Agree with the above comments. I worked for a local authority for 9 years and if you didn't have CHAS or Constructionline membership then you didn't get a look in.

We've been doing work for the council for 15-18 years, we've never had it. :)

About 2 months ago, some fella from the council rang up asking for our Construction-line registration number? I told him that we don't do construction, therefore we didn't need to be a part of it, he point blankly replied with

"you won't get any work from us then"

We're still receiving orders, we're still working for the council... just no where near as much as we use too, so we're at a point now where we're thinking should we or shouldn't we, just to get those orders that we're loosing out on.

Majority of the order's we get range from £500 - £1000 depending on the product etc... is paying out £300 really worth it for those kind of orders?
 
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zshane

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ahh...now your elaborating.

If you are already getting work from the council, then it will certainly help. So I say go for it...

Mostly, when council give out work they usually give out work to the big boys, and normally it's a basic requirement to have constructionline, and will not accept an individual or company without this.

Do you come under contruction or not is a different question, but if your getting work from them, then persuing the contructionline registration I believe will certainly benefit you in the future.

The rest mate is down to your personal preference...
 
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MattKearsley

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Hello All, firstly, let me start by saying i work for Constructionline, and dont worry, i am not going to 'promote' or 'sell' anything. i plan to simply answer any questions or issues you may have.
My first point, is that you should not register with Constructionline as a means to automatically winning more work. It is not a tool designed to win more work. It can be used as a tool to generate leads, as you can access your profile and see which clients are looking at your record and when they looked at your record, but the phone very rarely rings just because you are registered on Constructionline. It has been known to happen, but as i say, it takes a proactive stance by the registered supplier to chase down leads and build relationships in the main.
The second point, is to ask yourself how much work you are currently doing pre-qualifying for work with clients.
Public sector buyers ask for constructionline & CHAS registration in order to prevent them from having to ask those questions as well. Some clients simply want to know you have a registration number, some of them check the databse to see the levels to which you have been accredited for. (eg. Financial capability for a particular trade)
In today's world of IT and data, information is becoming more valuable. Accredited information is more valuable still, as in the industry, there is a proliferation of 'self assessed data' which doesn't in the most part satisfy buyers.
We are seeing more new technology on a daily basis, and some of the 'big boys' having been mentioned are replacing their supply chain management of data with data from other sources like Constructionline. The likes of Vinci, Kier and even housebuilders like Barratt's are switching to this sort of arrangement, so Constructionline is no longer a mainstay of the public sector.
The final part i wanted to point out, and again, this is by no means a sales pitch.
If you are finding yourself drowning in prequalification paperwork, the first place to try is Constructionline. We have a team of staff talking to clients all day every day throughout the UK trying to stop the PQQ nightmare that costs the industry millions every year. If buyers are not adopting efficient processes and our suppliers tell us, we investigate and attempt to fix the problem.
If you are however, wanting to see if you will increase your orders merely by registering, then i think you would get frustrated in the end with the time and effort it takes to maintain your active record.
i am happy to talk to anyone who currently is registered or thinking of registering, but i dont want to outstay my welcome, so i will leave the thread alone.
Thanks for your time.
 
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commercialtransfer1

Simple question really.

Is Constructionline really worth it for someone in my trade?

We're not involved in construction at any level at all, however in some cases we do install barriers and gates, but there's not really that many enquiries for these.

Granted, installing access control systems involves drilling a hole in a wall from time to time...

Would a Locksmith really benefit from being a part of Constructionline, or would it be a complete waste of time and effort, when all we really do is install locks on Wooden, UPVC and Aluminium doors?

As a small specialist commercial only removals company we carry out a lot of work for public sector organisations. Many of the prequalification tenders now expect you to be accredited or a member of what seems to be a plethora of schemes which are very similar. Spmetimes its Constructionline, sometimes C.H.A.S, and others. We have found it necessary to belong to both. In addition large building/construction companies have there own, and so it goes on.
It all takes a good deal of time up with all the form filling and the updates etc, not to mention the cost!
At least with an S.S. I.P member (Safety in Procurement) you can automatically be registered with C.H.A.S
 
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