Iran

[George Smiley]

So the Nuclear deal has been signed, UN has endorsed it. But so far we've not seen any guidelines from UKTI on what opportunities are available for UK companies wishing to do business in Iran (other than the usual hydrocarbon companies).

Any inputs or thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Ahmad Abubaker1]

All I know is that there are opportunities to import high quality dried fruits and nuts. They also have a hand woven carpet and rug industry.

 

[sirearl]

They got quite a bit of oil .

 

[MOIC]

Nuclear bomb advice.

 

[Bartholomew Hearn]

Iran is a really strong country but sanctions are a complete stranglehold on Iran...
I would guess there are quite a few niches UK market would go crazy of. I have not really researched the topic, but for what I've remembered the have quite a lot nuts (lol)
ps: "nuclear bomb advice" made me giggle a bit.

 

[MOIC]

Iran is a really strong country but sanctions are a complete stranglehold on Iran...
I would guess there are quite a few niches UK market would go crazy of. I have not really researched the topic, but for what I've remembered the have quite a lot nuts (lol)
ps: "nuclear bomb advice" made me giggle a bit.

Only a bit??!

They know a lot more and have gone much further than what they are telling......................That's a given.

Cashew nuts from Iran are supposed to be great...................ensure they have removed the kernels as they are poisonous.

Lets hope there is a regime change within the next 10 years, otherwise.....................watch this space.

 

[TMGG]

They know a lot more and have gone much further than what they are telling......................That's a given.

Evidence from? Like Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. Apparently every other nation that isn't on it's knees to the US is about to kill us all.

Lets hope there is a regime change within the next 10 years, otherwise.....................watch this space.

Regime change like when the US and UK removed Iran's first elected leader Mossadegh to serve their own oil interests? They just hate the us because we're so free!

How about just letting Iranians run their own affairs? And allowing them to defend themselves just like we believe we have a right to.

Yes, you can't have nukes because that would mean we can't come and invade your country anytime soon over a pack of lies, increase Lockheed Martin sales and create a hellhole.

 

[MOIC]

Evidence from? Like Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. Apparently every other nation that isn't on it's knees to the US is about to kill us all.

Please don't compare the mistake with WOMD with Iran's nuclear ambition.

Iran's power and influence in the Middle East is not about their relationship with USA, or what agenda the USA may have. It's fundamentally a Middle East problem and the threat Iran poses to it's Middle East neighbours.

The proxy wars Iran is fighting in countries throughout the Middle East is testament to the threat it poses.

For Iran to have a nuclear arsenal at it's disposable, with a despot at the head of it's regime, is a very dangerous situation to both the Middle East as well as globally.

Evidence related to the obstruction of IAEA to inspect sites. (If there is nothing to hide, why object..........No smoke without fire . . ..)

The sanctions were imposed based on credible evidence.

Satellite imagery shows clearly the the sites, the fact that some are hidden, as well as "great activity" before some sites were allowed to be inspected.

How about just letting Iranians run their own affairs? And allowing them to defend themselves just like we believe we have a right to.

Yes, totally agree PROVIDED they do not supply arms and fund terrorist organisations.

Defending your own country is one thing.

Supplying arms & funding groups to fight their proxy wars is another matter altogether.

For the western world to fully understand the politics and ideology that exists within Middle East countries, requires a detailed knowledge of it's history, experiencing life with all that is entailed & hatred that exists, as well as understanding the different groups that exist within each country.

Sadly, the west (and I suspect the politicians at the recent round of negotiations) just required "an agreement" to be reached, within the specific timeline that was "allowed".

Final thought for the day:

What happens when the 10 years are up (which is part of the agreement), at which point Iran is "allowed" to continue it's aim to be nuclear armed (to threaten it's neighbours)?..............Do we have another round of 3 year negotiations?

 

[sirearl]

Yes, totally agree PROVIDED they do not supply arms and fund terrorist organisations.

Defending your own country is one thing.

Supplying arms & funding groups to fight their proxy wars is another matter altogether.



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You mean just like Britain and the US have been doing for hundreds of years.

 

[MOIC]

No.

I don't mean that at all.

Compare apples with apples.

History should be a lesson, not an example to follow.

 

[sirearl]

No.

I don't mean that at all.

Compare apples with apples.

History should be a lesson, not an example to follow.

I suspect Nationalism nearly always gives a distorted view of world events.

 

[MOIC]

. . . .and Realism, a more vivid view.

 

[sirearl]

. . . .and Realism, a more vivid view.

Quite.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...er-for-peace-in-the-middle-east-10388257.html

 

[TMGG]

Please don't compare the mistake with WOMD with Iran's nuclear ambition.

That sums up your view, MOIC. There was no mistake. It was very deliberate. You don't run a propaganda campaign of lies and then claim it was a mistake. You don't need to hire PR companies. You just need real facts.

There is a massive lobby in the US which is addicted to the gravy train of war and constantly claiming new scares.

For Iran to have a nuclear arsenal at it's disposable, with a despot at the head of it's regime, is a very dangerous situation to both the Middle East as well as globally.

Same ole same. Look at these funny foreigners. They're all scary. We can't let them have bombs. How many countries has Iran attacked in the last 100 years? How many have the US?
Only one country has ever used nukes - the good ole USA.

Evidence related to the obstruction of IAEA to inspect sites. (If there is nothing to hide, why object..........No smoke without fire . . ..)

The sanctions were imposed based on credible evidence.

Satellite imagery shows clearly the the sites, the fact that some are hidden, as well as "great activity" before some sites were allowed to be inspected.

Deja vu. Same said about Iraq. Sanctions are easily got when the US run the show. Any sanctions on us for invading Iraq on lies? No, in fact the UN has nothing to say about it. If Iran had done it you know full well they would have been imposed on them.
We got a no fly zone in Libya recently through the UN with lies.

For the western world to fully understand the politics and ideology that exists within Middle East countries, requires a detailed knowledge of it's history, experiencing life with all that is entailed & hatred that exists, as well as understanding the different groups that exist within each country.

Not this ole classic. Go and destroy other countries and then claim it's not our fault, we just tried to help but they've all been killing each other for years.

Every country in this world has a history of fighting and hatred between groups. Just over 60 years ago Europeans were slaughtering each other in the tens of millions. You can go poke a hornets nest anywhere. This is the modus operandi of the CIA.

 

[sirearl]

No.

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History should be a lesson, not an example to follow.

Shame its not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'état

 

[MOIC]

That sums up your view, MOIC. There was no mistake. It was very deliberate. You don't run a propaganda campaign of lies and then claim it was a mistake. You don't need to hire PR companies. You just need real facts.

There is a massive lobby in the US which is addicted to the gravy train of war and constantly claiming new scares.




Same ole same. Look at these funny foreigners. They're all scary. We can't let them have bombs. How many countries has Iran attacked in the last 100 years? How many have the US?
Only one country has ever used nukes - the good ole USA.




Deja vu. Same said about Iraq. Sanctions are easily got when the US run the show. Any sanctions on us for invading Iraq on lies? No, in fact the UN has nothing to say about it. If Iran had done it you know full well they would have been imposed on them.
We got a no fly zone in Libya recently through the UN with lies.



Not this ole classic. Go and destroy other countries and then claim it's not our fault, we just tried to help but they've all been killing each other for years.

Every country in this world has a history of fighting and hatred between groups. Just over 60 years ago Europeans were slaughtering each other in the tens of millions. You can go poke a hornets nest anywhere. This is the modus operandi of the CIA.

On all your points, you have mentioned the "Good Old USA" in one form or another.

My post is not relevant to anything Iran does in the west, so please don't go down that route.

Iran has local intentions, not global.

It's difficult to understand or comprehend how different the Middle East is to the Western world, but can understand everyone looks after their own interests with their own agenda, irrespective how it may affect other countries or areas not close to them.

FYI Iran arms groups and fights proxy wars to support their ideology and causes unrest with its neighbours.

USA are not affected. Europe is not affected. Their neighbours are.

A nuclear armed Iran, with a despot as its leader, is a dangerous scenario for its neighbours. Given the terrorist organisations it arms, the world will be a more dangerous place . . . .for everyone.