Iphone videos to DVD

[wayzgoose]

We were watching a 30 year old video that I had transferred from a camcorder tape to dvd many years ago and I thought to myself that that was a good way to preserve a few videos on my iphone as, like most people, they tend to get backed up and stored in all sorts of places.
Now DVD ripping is not something I've ever done so it could be something quite obvious I'm doing wrong.
I took 6 10 second videos on my phone in the 6 different formats that are available. Eventually managed to get them on the computer after a few hours (that's another story!) and then downloaded Ashampoo Video Converter and Ashampoo Burning Studio.
Using a Sony DVP-NS38 DVD player and bought some DVD+RW disks.
Well I've converted the iphone files to every format going, burnt to disk, put them in the player - same message - NO Audio, NO Video.
Is there anything obvious I'm doing wrong? Not sure I want to waste any more hours on this!

 

[WaveJumper]

Out of interest (whilst I think about this) are you using a Mac computer

 

[Nico Albrecht]

Why not download a DVD Player Software first test in there your conversions if they work and burn after that.

All comes down to how smart your DVD Player is in regards to media Codecs and what folder structure it prefers.

BTW DVD are shit for preserving stuff as a media as they are very uv sensitive. why not simple convert to mp4 and put files on a mechanical external hard drive. Any modern TV has a usb interface and can play videos from external sources. Make another copy and put in cold storage

 

[wayzgoose]

Out of interest (whilst I think about this) are you using a Mac computer

No, PC

 

[wayzgoose]

Why not download a DVD Player Software first test in there your conversions if they work and burn after that.

All comes down to how smart your DVD Player is in regards to media Codecs and what folder structure it prefers.

BTW DVD are **** for preserving stuff as a media as they are very uv sensitive. why not simple convert to mp4 and put files on a mechanical external hard drive. Any modern TV has a usb interface and can play videos from external sources. Make another copy and put in cold storage

Only reason is, when I'm long gone, family members may just play DVDs but unlikely to wade through my numerous usb sticks, hard drives etc.

 

[DefinitelyMaybeUK]

Only reason is, when I'm long gone, family members may just play DVDs but unlikely to wade through my numerous usb sticks, hard drives etc.

Ahh, the imminent quandary facing us all Having been in the situation where I've had to clear family houses and found well preserved collections of 70+ year photographs, it puts things into perspective as to whether your treasured first generation digital snaps of 20 years ago will ever be seen again, even if you have the password! As mentioned by Nico, I'm not sure DVD is the way forward - how many laptops do you see with DVD/Blu-ray drives in these days? And more than likely, they will go the way of the humble VHS player!

But ignoring all the doom and gloom, were you expecting to create a "true DVD" video, i.e. pop it in an old player and up comes the start menu? If so, there's a specific video format everything must be converted into, which these days is pretty poor quality, but may be marginally better quality then an old phone. TBH I wouldn't pursue this, as you'll likely permanently lose quality in your treasured clips, it's time consuming and perhaps more importantly you're limiting future playback options.

Or were you looking to just backup your (video) files? If so, then that's a better option, as you'll keep the original quality, it's pretty fast to transfer (no file format conversion needed) and you can hope that someone will keep the file formats alive in years to come. Most modern DVD/Blu-ray players, will play video file content direct from disk. To future proof even more, you could copy each DVD to a 8GB USB stick (they're a couple of quid each these days), maybe twice from different manufacturers - USB sticks can equally be plugged into modern TV's for file playback. But why bother with DVD's - just go straight for USB or SD cards with a USB adapter...

I don't know the answer. Maybe the trick is to progressively keep transferring your files to new technologies as they arise. Personally I opt for duplicate RAID units, cloud backup and a spot of luck, all while waiting for the fool proof solution to materialise

 

[wayzgoose]

I'm thinking more like could be played through a dedicated DVD player or Xbox linked to a tv. The quality on my iphone is so much better that my old camcorder tapes that were transferred to dvd I don't think that quality will be an issue.

 

[Nico Albrecht]

8GB USB stick (they're a couple of quid each these days), maybe twice from different manufacturers - USB sticks can equally be plugged into modern TV's for file playback. But why bother with DVD's - just go straight for USB or SD cards with a USB adapter...

Worst possible advise to be honest.

I make it short the underlaying tech is called "Nand" which is used in USB, Sd card and SSD drives. There are very unstable and unreliable memory cells by design.

Nand memory chips are build for speed and shock resistance but very unstable and unreliable and the cells can't save data for long before it degrades too. So any Nand tech is very bad for long term archiving.

Rule of thumb is never ever, ever put data on a USB pen drive or Sd card including 90% of SSD devices you cannot afford to loose or plan to use for long term storage.

DVD's seems to be very UV light sensitive and had plenty of cases in where over the years the DVD got damaged buy sunlight passing buy every day.

duplicate RAID

Here again this can be costly and very shortly design life with a targeting cross on it for ransomware attacks when used as a server or NAS .

The best toughest drives on he market can do 5 years 24/7 operation before design life is over and this is enterprise level drive tech such as WD Gold Series.

Any NAS rated drive is 3 years best with praying as it is consumer tech with a fancy label and a bit more quality control.


A couple replicated bulk standard drives with all footage on it will do the trick.

 

[DefinitelyMaybeUK]

Worst possible advise to be honest.

Here again this can be costly and very shortly design life with a targeting cross on it for ransomware attacks when used as a server or NAS .

I never said they were cheap, but bounds like i'm on borrowed time...

A couple replicated bulk standard drives with all footage on it will do the trick.

Always open to suggestions - what model drives would you recommend and what replication method?

 

[wayzgoose]

Sorted! All these programmes tell you they'll do it but they won't.
Downloaded WinX DVD Author - all done in one click. Happy chappy

 

[MikeJ]

I'd shove them on Youtube, or some other suitable video hosting site.. No risk of them getting lost that way.

I struggle to play DVDs these days. Bought one a few years ago, settled down to watch it, then asked the wife where the DVD player was. Turns out we'd thrown it out a few years ago.

 

[WaveJumper]

And now onto digitising all those old vinyl albums ???