Interspire.com - Any one used it???

jamiest07

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Hi

I've downloaded several e-commerce solutions and found Interspire to be the easiest to use with the most features.

The shopping cart and e-mail marketer software packages come in at around £1200(ish) and before I go ahead was wondering if anyone had any experience with them??

Any advice would be great

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websnail

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Hold on a second...

I have the Interspire shopping cart through a long standing colleague and there's a few things you need to keep in mind with Interspires recent changes to customer relations and their pricing/policies.

The one thing I would request is access to their customer forums here:
http://www.interspire.com/forum/

The level of dissatisfaction with their approach has been voiced with ever increasing frustration and frankly speaking Interspire could give a flying flip about any of it. It seems they are concentrating on bringing in new customers and not on those who have been using and recommending the products for quite some time.

That aside here's a few survival tips you need to take into account to be able to use the shopping cart successfully.

1. Ensure you budget for the price of the cart version you need, the full years maintenance and keep a further 50% available in upgrade fees in case they release version 6 in the next year.

2. Bear in mind that maintenance needs to be kept current in order to get security, feature or ANY updates. It also affects your ability to get support (more on that later). If your maintenance contract lapses and a new major version of the cart is released you will be expected to pay FULL price to get the upgrade.

3. Support is currently Australian office hours only. There is a UK office with naff all in the way of competent support. It seems to be almost exclusively for sales at the moment. Most issues are replied to with a stock template response after 24 hours (or later) and often promises to return calls are not followed up. Interspire say they're working on this by hiring new staff but so far there's little change observed.

4. Documentation for the newest version of the cart is not available despite the cart being released for nearly a month. There are also various bugs still pending in the system despite a beta testing system.

5. The Royal Mail module is out of date (still has 2008-09 pricing) and isn't comprehensive although a 3rd party update is available for a charge.

6. A number of the promised features from previous versions still haven't materialised and often they get added to the development model for the NEXT major release so you can (as happened with version 4) end up with a version that was promised a feature but which you can only get by upgrading to the next version at considerable cost.

7. You'd be advised to install the cart and then check that all the necessary functionality is available within the 60 day money back period. There are some glaring omissions in functionality that seem blindingly obvious compared to standard cart practices. Things like invoices showing discount codes and amounts.. Incorrect or missing tax information (legal requirements not followed, etc..)... and more besides. Much of this becomes more obvious when you get into detailed examination so don't just be taken in by the neat interface.


I could go on but basically the problems in most of the system is the insane customer relations policies that have been adopted. Mitchell, one of the key players in the company has become so focused on the level of "big name" new customers that he's lost all focus on managing expectations and more importantly on customer retention.

Granted the company is in a position of being able to ignore most of the detractors as the competing products aren't overly great (unless you are a PHP coding expert) but if/when a decent alternative arrives I suspect it may be almost too late. The level of arrogance is awe inspiringly bad to be honest.

It's frustrating but that's the state of play... If you can accept a poor support solution and budget for that level of cost I've recommended then it's a good system, but the potential for the whole thing to go completely base over apex is rather alarming.
 
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amityuk

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I have only use the Email Markter so cannot comment on how good the cart is. The following is my opinion:-

1) They are expensive. Buying a cart for £1200 is outrageous when there are perfectly very good other shopping cart systems for lower price (i.e. Zencart is free). Will they be desigining a site, adding prioducts and everything else for you? If yes then its a good price. If you only get the software and have to still do everythying else yourself its bad. You may need more technical help with other systems like Zencart, but it will do everything you need a shopping cart to do.

2) Their support is not good. I have raised a lot of tickets and have to wait ages for a reply. One instance 3 days, by which time I spent all weekend figuring out the issue anyway. I really, really needed support at this time but did not get it. I even spoke to someone on the phone who said they would get someone to reply but they did not. And most tickets they do no help anyway. It seems they really do not want to help customers. I suspect they concentrate on their larger clients advertised on the home page, so its not good for small business. I am even selling their product on but they are not interested in helping me out.

3) I do use their Email Marketer and I sell it to clients. In my opinion Interpsire Email Marketer is the best on the market. They know this hence the price. Last year it was half price at approx. £140. Now it's approx. £305. I use this system because there are no other systems as good as this, so unfortunately you do have to spend this money until a competitor comes along with a product that is equal. I do not use any other products because there ARE suitable alternatives. And with 1) and 2) above I dont see why you would use them unless you have to (like I do with email marketer).

So in summary, if you are a small business, with expensive products and bad support I would only use them if you need to (like email marketer).
 
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6. A number of the promised features from previous versions still haven't materialised and often they get added to the development model for the NEXT major release so you can (as happened with version 4) end up with a version that was promised a feature but which you can only get by upgrading to the next version at considerable cost.

This was the final straw for me, I won't recommend or deploy this for any clients now.
 
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websnail

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Looks promising, but pricing seems on the higher side. One thing, I see that could be detrimental "Forced User Registration", if my client does not want to create a login than that flexibility should exists.
It does have that as an option.. There's even the option to allow an account to be created from a guest checkout or just leave it as a one off.


Just to recap my opinion of Interspire as a company hasn't changed a jot... They're still very much going through growing pains and transitioning from a hobby style outfit of 2 or 3 people to a bigger development house. Unfortunately many of the basic structures for such a large company are still being thrashed out so internal communication, development models, etc... are just not quite there yet. They're charging massively for it though so the disparity is rather alarmingly obvious.

Support can be brilliant and it can be absolutely diabolical depending on who you get. In the UK there's an office but it does seem to be a chocolate teapot in many respects. Possibly because stuff gets handed off to the main office in Oz and then circular filed or lost in a "who handles this?" mess but that's just supposition on my part.


Anyway, as I'm developing modules and code for this system in a fit or ironic masochism I figure it's worth pointing out that there is a community forum that is not controlled by Interspire at:
http://www.interspireD.net/


Why am I doing this? Well I was given a free license by a long time partner of theirs (who has the same qualms as many here) and as I code in PHP I opted to try and hack it into shape. If nothing else there's a rich market to provide the features that Interspire just aren't providing including an up to date Royal Mail module for shipping... It keeps me busy :)
 
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Hi All,

I currently use interspire shopping cart and have tried many other carts. I can say that it is one of the best systems I have used and does the job well. I currently use the software on 2 sites.

I have used EKM also and tried Magento briefly, at the end of the day you get what you pay for the system is very logical and can be tuned quite quickly to your specific needs. Only issues I have found are importing databases but they may come down to my knowledge of them.

People talk about the upgrades cost money. Version 5 is now very stable and the functions are good including the CMS.

If the software is working fine in the first place why keep upgrading ? The system is less than below £1000 to setup the price on interspire cart is in Austtralian Dollars. Talk to Paul from nublue I have found them very helpful.

If you would like any more advice PM me.
 
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websnail

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If the software is working fine in the first place why keep upgrading ?
Let me just run through a small scenario here to show why the upgrade and cost issue is not optional.

Ok... You've paid for 4.x back in January and your 6 months maintenance has run out.. You're using SagePay and they've just released a new update to their gateway API that you must convert to. Interspire eventually provide an update but your maintenance has run out so they won't send you the fix.

You decide it's worth subscribing for another 3 months maintenance just to get the fix. You go to the site and try to do this only to find that the form will only let you upgrade and THEN buy extra maintenance. You check the forums where others have reported something similar but a few have managed to get sales to agree to extend maintenance without upgrading. Supposedly it's a bug in the ordering system.

However, you discover that when you call sales that there is no bug and that you have to upgrade. "But it says on the forum..." You are told in no uncertain terms that the forums are wrong, that there is no option to extend your maintenance on the old version. You will need to pay for the upgrade and then the maintenance can be extended.

This is the bit where I'm guessing based on what I've heard but worth bearing in mind. Because your maintenance contract has expired you will have to pay the FULL price for the product that you bought for full price back in January. If you'd been inside your maintenance contract you could have paid half price for the upgrade but it's lapsed. You MIGHT get a concession and be "allowed" to pay half price but you're still forking out $495 more and all you wanted was the security fix.

If you think I'm out of my mind or "must be wrong" then you should really check the forums at InterspireD.net, point the customers there to this forum and ask them if the above is for real. Better yet, check your own license, phone support/sales... Ask them whether you can extend your 4.x maintenance contract... You can't, I'm not mad and is this true? Oh, yes, even in your wildest nightmares it couldn't be this stupid but it is.

The system is less than below £1000 to setup the price on interspire cart is in Austtralian Dollars.
I'd recommend you check that one as you'll find this is incorrect. The price is in US Dollars and is a constant complaint from Australian customers who have to pay an Aussie company in USD complete with variations in exchange.

I appreciate you have a your own opinion but really, those points above pretty much nullify your argument that you don't need to upgrade or that it's cheap... I'd never recommend anyone budget less than £1k a year for a professional edition... As for Enterprise or the other higher end editions, the features are just not worth the increase in price.


All this aside, there is always the BigCommerce option which is a SaaS system. That means no custom modifications but if it takes off as they're hoping it will, I suspect they'll be writing updates and improvements into the system much quicker or risk a backlash...

As for the business hours support... On a SaaS, I hope it's not their plan or it'll bury itself nose down in the basement.
 
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