Idea that will make me a bigillion pounds

[guest_12]

ok it wont make me millions but it could earn me a few quid to pay the bills.

I have an idea for a product which I have checked online and doesnt yet exist. Problem is I don't know whats the best step to take next.

Can I check for existing patents online (for free)?
and are non disclosure forms worth anything in court?

Then where do I get it manufactured and who is the best person to speak to.....

These are my typical thoughts today so thought I would just put it out there and see if anyone can help.

Basically my idea is for wearable technology. I want my item to have a button which when pressed sends a pre written sms text message to 1 number. Anyone know any companies which could help me out on the tech front?

 

[Deleted member 226268]

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I have an idea for a product which I have checked online and doesn't yet exist.

Doesn't yet exist........
Don't be too sure about that !

You can search for existing patents here >>
https://www.gov.uk/search-for-patent

However, I wouldn't worry about patents just yet.....or at all.


....and are non disclosure forms worth anything in court ?
Virtually useless because no company is willing to recognize them or sign them.
You work to their terms and conditions only, or they are not interested in looking at your idea.


Then where do I get it manufactured and who is the best person to speak to.....
There will be many parts to this, no one single manufacturer will make all the parts, you will
have to search for some company to make the physical casings, plastic injection molds are extremely expensive.
And you will have to find someone to design the casings and the molds.
Find a company to make the molds.

You will need another company to source the components, and make up the electronic circuits.
But first, you will have to find some-one well into electronics to design it all.


I want my item to have a button which when pressed sends a pre written sms text message to 1 number.
I am sure this already exists = something similar aimed at elderly people living alone, where they can press a button to automatically call a relative or services if they feel ill or have a fall.


To be brutally honest....Just forget the idea !
It will cost many £ thousands just to get it designed, tested, and into final production.

Then another many £ thousands in advertising and marketing.

Search through Ali-Express.com, Ali-Baba.com, You are quite likely to find your idea has already been made and is for sale on these sites.


Dave the Inventor's dream killer ... Ha Ha.

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[guest_12]

Thanks for the info, but why tell someone to just forget about an idea because it will cost money?

everything costs money my friend and if you dont risk it you will never make it...

 

[Deleted member 226268]

Thanks for the info, but why tell someone to just forget about an idea because it will cost money?

everything costs money my friend and if you dont risk it you will never make it...

Believe me ...... some ideas are worth pursuing.. but unless you have £ 100,000 to gamble with, this isn't one of them.
There are a lot more ongoing and hidden costs involved than I have highlighted above.

 

[guest_12]

Again, I haven't said anything about my idea, cost to build or how deep my pockets are.... I haven't asked for business advice, I already have that but thanks

 

[Scott-Copywriter]

You would probably be best off getting in touch with a prototyping company to create a prototype for you.

When it comes to manufacturing, the most cost-effective approach would be contacting companies in China. However, be prepared to spend a fair bit as you would probably need custom tooling and have to cover a large minimum order quantity.

 

[toastking]

Hey Alphie Dogg

I hate to be a party pooper but this technology already exists and so you wouldn't be able to patent it (assuming I am understanding your outline and I am not getting it wrong in the gap between your explanation and the real core of your idea).

Essentially you want users to be able to click a button on this device and it will send a pre-formatted message via text?

There are apps that do this kind of this already, and iphones/android phones can send messages like this with a tap or two if you set them up right. So then comes your challenge of showing how this one button makes a difference from that technology where users have configured their phones to press one of the buttons and it'd send this message.

I know for a fact this tech already exists as a customer at work has a system setup whereby their elderly patients have buttons added to things and then they press the button and it texts and emails a pre-formatted message.

Hope this helps, I do actually think if you did it right you could make a good business without having to protect anything.

With investors and Purchasers who work with big companies, you will often find that if you cannot trust them enough with your idea then they simply won't give you the time of day. Fair or not thats a fact and so you'd probably be hiding your idea from the world and on the face of it, it has potential as a business.

I wouldn't say don't go for it, but unless you have something beyond your explanation I'd save the money on protecting it and spend it on product development, building the business and accumulating your first users of your MVP. The prototype idea is excellent, if you provide them with CAD drawings (or employ someone to do these) there are companies who can do excellent things. A friend of mine designed signage for 'a large european bank' and it was incredible seeing his work 3d printed!

 

[Mystro]

We use this every day, we put pre scripted modules on site and when an engineer swipes his card it send a message to the end user to show they have had someone attend site

we also use this in an alarm for lone workers and if they feel threatened its sends an sms message to the control centre

And thats just my industry loads of other uses too, so the technology is already there, there may be a need for the deployment somewhere in whatever you idea is but the concept without a doubt would already be patented

 

[wesaving]

Again, I haven't said anything about my idea, cost to build or how deep my pockets are.... I haven't asked for business advice, I already have that but thanks

I can guess the answer is; not very. Based on the OP "Can I check for existing patents online (for free)?", if you don't want to invest a few £'s checking the patent I would suggest you listen to the advice from others and look to pursue something else?

 

[guest_12]

Just cause I like a freebie doesnt mean im not willing to spend when I have too....so much assuming in one post.

 

[Deleted member 226268]

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Oh well, the idea was good ........
Whatever amazing new ideas we all have, someone, somewhere, thought of it years ago.


No 47 of 2240 items found

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Wire...-Panic-Button-for-Senior-Home/1830000873.html



1.can adopt GSM 850/900/1800/1900 bands, can be used all over the world.

2. Can per-set 5 phone numbers: when there is an alarm, it will call these numbers in order
Press DISARM button on the main panel, it will stop alarming.

3. Can per-set 5 SMS numbers: when there is an alarm, it will send SMS to these numbers.

4. Maximum 30 wireless sensors including wireless panic button or remote controllers, etc.

5. 2 wired ports to connect wired sensors.

6. The SMS content of the first 5 wireless sensors can be edited by users.

7. Support remote listen in and two-way communication (connect an external speaker)

8. SMS alert for power failure or recovery.

9. Built-in backup rechargeable battery to keep working after power off.


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[guest_12]

Like I already said that's not my idea. It where I wanna put that tech is my idea...

 

[Mystro]

Like I already said that's not my idea. It where I wanna put that tech is my idea...

The that's not a patent, its an idea, a solution it may well be a great idea but you cannot patent something thats already been patented , but you can produce your idea and sell the solution

Hope it works for you

 

[The Byre]

This is the most bizarre thread. When I read it yesterday, several similar devises sprang to mind and of course all those apps on those silly phones that half the World seems to be staring into as their lives pass them by.

 

[guest_12]

Those apps on those silly phones are part of a multi billion pound industry....great comment

 

[The Byre]

It's a bizarre thread because the device exists already and in several forms.

Every few weeks, somebody comes onto this forum to tell us that he (it always seems to be guys!) has 'invented' or thought of some new fantastic product. Then gradually and bit by bit, we get to find out what that product/service/device/whatever really is and we discover that our would-be inventor has not yet gone to the extent of doing a Google-search and that the great invention or idea exists several times over.

I'm still waiting for somebody to create that much-needed Nicki Minaj hologram. Now that IS an idea!

 

[Mystro]

I'm still waiting for somebody to create that much-needed Nicki Minaj hologram. Now that IS an idea!

People should not be beat up for asking questions, we all don't know everything

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...ologram-new-EDM-music-video-David-Guetta.html

 

[guest_12]

Actually if you read the thread you would see my idea isnt for the tech its where I want to put the tech....and I never claimed to invent anything just had an idea of where that tech can be used

 

[wesaving]

Actually if you read the thread you would see my idea isnt for the tech its where I want to put the tech....and I never claimed to invent anything just had an idea of where that tech can be used

"Basically my idea is for wearable technology. I want my item to have a button which when pressed sends a pre written sms text message to 1 number. Anyone know any companies which could help me out on the tech front?"

You seem very aggressive and angry with the world. Nowhere in your OP did you state that at all, and others have only been trying to help, and potential save you time and money wasted on this idea. Sadly, I have no more time for you, and I hope you invest all your money pursuing this as you clearly know better than everyone who tried to help.

 

[guest_12]

Great, I have no time for you either.

I asked a question got some help, which was great, then others just want to add their opinion to something which they know nothing about like its my first day out of school.

 

[JamieM]

You seem very aggressive and angry with the world.

Think he is just frustrated at people making so many assumptions.

Why are people telling him to forget the idea if they think it can't be patented? Perhaps it can't but it can still be a successful product. And there is the potential for a design patent too.

Alfiedogg, it depends on the complexity of the product but the best way to manufacture is if you can create a prototype and then contact manufacturers overseas (probably China) to make it for a lower price. If it is fairly simple then the manufacturer might be able to make some adjustments to an existing similar product.

 

[Bruceflea]

I asked a question got some help, which was great, then others just want to add their opinion to something which they know nothing about like its my first day out of school.

You posted it on an open forum so of course you are going to get people's opinions whether they know something about it or not. They may actually know a lot about it in fairness and are giving you an informed opinion.

I've been involved in M2M technology for a while so would like to think I know something about this type of stuff. As others have said above, this type of stuff already exists but you've stated the idea of where to put the tech is essentially the gap in the market you've identified. Unless you can tell us a bit more about it then I doubt anyone can really help you much more than you've got above.

Wearables are a massive growth market. If you've got something 'new' then you could be onto something.

 

[guest_12]

To be fair I never asked for opinions....but lets look at the advice these business people gave me....

What? that will cost you money dont do it! or its probably been done before because everything in the world has been invented already!!

thats very narrow-minded advice and "informed" opinion from people supposedly in business.

I forgot there is only ever 1 of anything in this world

other than that the advice has been much helpful.

 

[wesaving]

To be fair I never asked for opinions....but lets look at the advice these business people gave me....

What? that will cost you money dont do it! or its probably been done before because everything in the world has been invented already!!

thats very narrow-minded advice and "informed" opinion from people supposedly in business.

I forgot there is only ever 1 of anything in this world

other than that the advice has been much helpful.

Maybe I have a few seconds more to encourage you...

You are right. You have conquered the world of technology! I can see you are Britains answer to Bill Gates!! I encourage you to remortgage your home and empty the kiddies piggy boxes and put everything into this project! I can see this rivaling the iwatch within weeks. This surely has the scope to do what the original inventor and the 1000 others that re-worked the idea have failed to do. You gon' be rollin' in da monies'.

Dont forget the little people.

 

[guest_12]

@wesaving Im far from angry, just have a clear vision and drive to push myself and ofcourse the cash to back that up

 

[Root 66 Woodshop]

So much anger in the world, so much confusion and so many negative responses...

Alfie, if you think you've got a good idea for the tech - go for it buddy

Applying technology to new ideas is always a great thing, but just remember if you come up with an idea and start to make some serious cash on it - expect those pesky Chinese or Japanese to find a way to make it cheaper and hit ebay with it at 99p and £10 delivery (sometimes free delivery! ), flood the market and let you suffer the outcome

Example: I started making IR Floods about 15 years ago for Paranormal research... sold about 50 of them at £35 each to other people interested in my field... then they started appearing on ebay at £10 - £20 battery operated LED ones... for some bizarre reason people prefer those rather than my 40watt plug in version... Yet my version is a lot bigger and bulkier granted, but gives out a hell of a lot more IR

If anyone wants to see one of my IR's search Facebook lol it's on there somewhere probably under Dave Tweedale (Not been on there for about 18 months)

 

[MikeJ]

You're expecting people interested in paranormal research to be logical?

 

[guest_12]

@MikeJ you shouldnt attack someone for their beliefs.

 

[Root 66 Woodshop]

You're expecting people interested in paranormal research to be logical?

HaHa!

I'm as logical as they come... I go out mostly to prove to folk that their homes are not haunted that there is 99% chance of there being a natural phenomenon or even a man-made phenomenon

 

[MikeJ]

@MikeJ you shouldnt attack someone for their beliefs.

Actually, you should. If what they believe is wrong, and in some cases harmful to individuals, it's a very good thing to do.

 

[The Byre]

I'm as logical as they come... I go out mostly to prove to folk that their homes are not haunted that there is 100% chance of there being a natural phenomenon or even a man-made phenomenon

Fixed that for you!

 

[The Byre]

What? that will cost you money dont do it! or its probably been done before because everything in the world has been invented already!!

On a not so minor point of order, your very first post stated quite clearly that you were going to earn 'a bigillion pounds' because you had invented something that does not already exist. You even asked about patent searches. The shirtiness only started when four or five people told you that it does exist.

 

[guest_12]

@The Byre that was clearly a joke on all the other people claiming to make millions from an idea....I do even state that it won't make millions just pay the bills.

Again I am aware the Tech exists but I want to check if there is a patent stopping me putting the tech into my product.....how hard is that to understand.

The 'shirtiness' came from people assuming incorrect things and stating things as fact when they know nothing.

 

[Root 66 Woodshop]

Actually, you should. If what they believe is wrong, and in some cases harmful to individuals, it's a very good thing to do.

As stated above, I investigate reports of Paranormal Activity,the team and I investigate properties where people believe that something is happening and we go in and provide evidence of what is actually happening... as I said 99% of claims are man made or a natural phenomenon so I'm confused as to how what I do is harmful, can you please explain what you mean?

Fixed that for you!

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion ... it is a fact 99% that 1% of phenomenon has not been proven to be either natural or man made. and that no answer can be given by anyone, whether a scientific mind or not - majority of the time folk just shrug and that's it... if things can't be explained most people don't want to know.

Unfortunately for me, I have to know

 

[MikeJ]

As stated above, I investigate reports of Paranormal Activity,the team and I investigate properties where people believe that something is happening and we go in and provide evidence of what is actually happening... as I said 99% of claims are man made or a natural phenomenon so I'm confused as to how what I do is harmful, can you please explain what you mean?

I wasn't referring to you specifically. But there's a lot of people that take money from people that believe this crap. Derek Acorah and Sally Morgan spring to mind.

 

[ethical PR]

Great, I have no time for you either.

I asked a question got some help, which was great, then others just want to add their opinion to something which they know nothing about like its my first day out of school.

No it's not - it's called being on a forum - of course people who you perceive to be informed - or not - will offer their twopence worth.

You can always pay for professional advice if you don't want to see a variety of opinions from a range of people with various levels of experience.

 

[Deleted member 226268]

Actually if you read the thread you would see my idea isnt for the tech its where I want to put the tech....and I never claimed to invent anything just had an idea of where that tech can be used

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SO ..... What will this magical device of yours.... Actually DO ?


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[guest_12]

@dave archer I don't think I need to explain my idea any further on here.

I asked for advice around
Manufacturing not advice on if my idea would work or not.

 

[Deleted member 226268]

@dave archer I don't think I need to explain my idea any further on here.

I asked for advice around
Manufacturing not advice on if my idea would work or not.

But we are all now becoming interested in how this super new product will
change our lives ..

 

[guest_12]

@dave archer you can remain interested.