I need a website

[ClaimPro]

Hi guys,

I have registered a domain and now need to sort out hosting and a website.

I'm looking for something along the lines of claimangel . com in terms of design and look. Can anybody provide a quote for such a build?

Thanks
Mike
ClaimPro

 

[TotalWebSolutions]

You could try Sheffield Design Services. We have sent several clients to them - as we don't do web design ourselves - and they have always been happy. If you contact them ask for Jonathan and tell him Simon at Total Web put you in touch

Simon

 

[parask]

Hello

We are the team of developers have worked for many quality projects either its application development or web development based on latest technologies.

Please do let me know more about requirements for your website. So that I can give you the project quote (an approx. it would be £150- £250 for static quality look website).

Regards
Paras K
Designer & Developer

 

[refinedline]

Hello, from the website you have linked to, which is a simple 8 page website. The price to develop something similar would be £110 for a static website, or £165 for a website with a content management system included. The additional fee would be just £30 per year for hosting the site.

Please send me a private message if you are interested.

Many Thanks,

 

[NextPoint]

Wow, that is very cheap for an 8 page website. Do you provide content writing and design for that or do you use a pre-made template?

 

[refinedline]

Wow, that is very cheap for an 8 page website. Do you provide content writing and design for that or do you use a pre-made template?

No, we don't include content writing, it is on the basis that they provide all the content for us - although we can provide content for an additional fee. The design we do ourselves, not using pre-made templates. Designs are always based on customers ideas and needs.

Our aim is to create affordable, professional, bespoke web design and development for small and medium sized organisations.

 

[DesignerNick]

That is very cheap indeed! Would that be designed and coded from scratch?

 

[refinedline]

That is very cheap indeed! Would that be designed and coded from scratch?

Yep it sure is

 

[Faevilangel]

That is very cheap, an estimate would be 20 hours to design and build an 8 page website, you're working at £5.50 an hour for 20 hours, then you have your national insurance and tax payments from that. How can you live on that?

I earn more than that an hour working in Tesco part time.

 

[NextPoint]

Do you have any examples of the websites you have created? It would be good to hear of the testimonials you have from your clients.

 

[DataSafeServices]

I would imagine either he/she does not spend as long as 20 hours working on an 8-page website or is from a country where £5.50 an hour is worth more than it would be to us in the UK. India, perhaps.

It would be useful if the poster could link to some previous work.

 

[cmcp]

Ah, web company face off.

Must be a slow afternoon down in the gutter today. Give the guy a break.

 

[refinedline]

Do you have any examples of the websites you have created? It would be good to hear of the testimonials you have from your clients.

Main reason we are so cheap is that we are a really new company. We have completed a couple of designs for clients, but currently awaiting official confirmation for the projects.

 

[refinedline]

I would imagine either he/she does not spend as long as 20 hours working on an 8-page website or is from a country where £5.50 an hour is worth more than it would be to us in the UK. India, perhaps.

It would be useful if the poster could link to some previous work.

Nope, UK based thanks.

 

[zomex]

Hello ClaimPro,

I'd be very interested in carrying out this work for you and based on your requirements I'd be able to complete this project for £250. I also provide professional web hosting which starts from £4.99 per month. I am prepared to give an introductory offer of 1 month free hosting.

Here is a link to my portfolio:

http://www.zomex.co.uk/web-design-portfolio.php

and here are some of my testimonials:

http://www.zomex.co.uk/testimonials.php

Please contact me to discuss this further at jack @zomex.co.uk

I look forward to hearing from you,
Jack

 

[keyexposure-web-marketing]

I don't see how you can make a decent website on a £110 - £250 website. Unless you are using templates, a poor quality product, are desperate for work or are based in india etc. Bearing in mind you have to factor in client interviews, overheads, hourly rate etc. In development time alone at a push a bespoke mockup might take 1-2 hours if you're not particularly bothered about quality, then fleshing it out in html, etc another 1-2 hours if you're rushing and all the content is provided by the client.

 

[keyexposure-web-marketing]

Thinking about it further I have only really charged that amount for mate's rates.

 

[refinedline]

I don't see how you can make a decent website on a £110 - £250 website. Unless you are using templates, a poor quality product, are desperate for work or are based in india etc. Bearing in mind you have to factor in client interviews, overheads, hourly rate etc. In development time alone at a push a bespoke mockup might take 1-2 hours if you're not particularly bothered about quality, then fleshing it out in html, etc another 1-2 hours if you're rushing and all the content is provided by the client.

Hi i am the developer and designer at refined line. As my colleague previously stated, we are a very new company. Our primary objective to begin with is to build a good reputation for ourselves and one way of doing that is by creating a satisfied client base. So we have lot's of introductory offers and attractive cheap pricing to try and speed this process up. It's hard for a company that is just starting out.

I would just appreciate some support as opposed to being slated.

Here is a design we recently came up with for a client. Hopefully this will prove to you that we are legitimate.

http://www.refinedline.co.uk/sub/FILES/draft.jpg

The price of £110 is the bare minimum, if there are extra features that take additional time to implement we will talk this over with the client and summarise any additional charges, we found this to be fairest way of pricing as opposed to saying x many pages for x amount, as it is directly based on the actual work we do. However for a website of up to 8 static pages with just text and images on each page £110 is the price we charge.

 

[accountancyextra]

Hi i am the developer and designer at refined line. As my colleague previously stated, we are a very new company. Our primary objective to begin with is to build a good reputation for ourselves and one way of doing that is by creating a satisfied client base. So we have lot's of introductory offers and attractive cheap pricing to try and speed this process up. It's hard for a company that is just starting out.

Just a friendly comment, Refinedline. I've seen many developers start off the way you are doing, thinking that they'll develop this wonderful client base.

The thing to think about though is...will you get referred work 'cause you are good, or will it be "go see them, they are cheap". If it's the latter, you'll always be working for low money. Honestly, it's a difficult place to break from.

 

[ADW]

He's just building a portfolio up so that will enable some trust for future customers. Many web designers go down this route when starting. It's just the ground work really in getting started. If he could charge higher and get work I am sure he would. I am sure that time will come as well.

No big deal and I don't know what all of the fuss is about.

 

[ADW]

The OP seems to have disappeared anyway.

 

[zomex]

I don't see how you can make a decent website on a £110 - £250 website. Unless you are using templates, a poor quality product, are desperate for work or are based in india etc. Bearing in mind you have to factor in client interviews, overheads, hourly rate etc. In development time alone at a push a bespoke mockup might take 1-2 hours if you're not particularly bothered about quality, then fleshing it out in html, etc another 1-2 hours if you're rushing and all the content is provided by the client.

I disagree with you. Some of us are just freelancers meaning our overheads are much lower than that of a company that may have a few employees. £250 would be the lowest I'd be able to go to, if it takes me a week to do it's worth it for me as I learn, can add it to my portfolio and I already make an income from web hosting alone so there is no pressure for me to take on lots of work each month.

PS: No templates from me, it will be all from scratch including a mock-up.

Jack

 

[NextPoint]

Even for a freelancer, £250 is low. If it took you a week, that's not a good deal as a freelancer, as you would get paid more than that working employed by a company. You're also forgetting that your other costs considerations include:

* Cost of training and learning
* Marketing to get the next job
* Equipment expenses
* Taxes and NI

If you've already got a full time job then fair enough - you could take on a project like this as a part time project to earn some extra cash, as you don't need to worry about most of the above. If you're a full time freelancer, you can't afford to be taking on projects that only make you £250 per week because you'll be losing money on the real projects that earn you a decent living. Just my two pence.

 

[ADW]

Even for a freelancer, £250 is low. If it took you a week, that's not a good deal as a freelancer, as you would get paid more than that working employed by a company. You're also forgetting that your other costs considerations include:

* Cost of training and learning
* Marketing to get the next job
* Equipment expenses
* Taxes and NI

If you've already got a full time job then fair enough - you could take on a project like this as a part time project to earn some extra cash, as you don't need to worry about most of the above. If you're a full time freelancer, you can't afford to be taking on projects that only make you £250 per week because you'll be losing money on the real projects that earn you a decent living. Just my two pence.

Many businesses don't make a profit for a year or 2. They also put in endless hours for little return which when worked out can put them below the minimum wage. I know the number of hours I've worked in the past equates to slave labour but now and then that's what you have to do when building a business. Someone who is trying to start of in web design is no different and has to go through the hard times initially. Nothing changes and if a newbie were able to jump in and charge £30/40 per hour from the outset then they are very fortunate.

 

[NextPoint]

We've all been there, but charging far below the market rates is a trap that many new web designers fall for. Slightly below the market rate isn't so bad, but you usually find that people who want to pay rock bottom prices will not value your time, which in turn often leads to feature creep and either no recommendation - or only recommendations for providing very cheap work. Personally, I'd say that building your own sites as a portfolio is a good way to start - or strategically provide websites for organisations that will boost your profile such as well known brands and charities. That way, you're at least guaranteed to have items in your portfolio that will impress - regardless of whether you get recommendations out of it.

 

[ADW]

In an ideal world I agree, however........ I don't know of many brands or even known charities that would put their web presence in the hands of a youngster or noob who is starting out.

 

[keyexposure-web-marketing]

I really wasn't trying to slate anyone, I was just offering an opinion on the amount charged in the context of the thread. If you are prepared to make a loss for the sake of a portfolio piece but can still promise the quality then my hat is off to you - and ClaimPro should definately take you up on your offer!

I'm trying desperately not to knock the thread off it's initial subject. But I will say this, It's not an approach I am personally taking, I agree completely with accountancyextra.

I have literally just started my company, I have perhaps 4 clients on the books after the initial set-up websites they are now on maintenance contracts. Tomorrow I am going to see a client about a site. I have a ballpark figure in mind - £400 to £800 for a static bespoke design 4 pager. It's a big range but it really does depend on how much fact finding I can do on the company, search traffic on transactional queries, margin on units sold, their overheads and the bottom line - how valuable this site will be to them - how much business it will generate. The site is going to be up indefinitely, in my opinion £800 would be an absolute steal based on the market research I have done thus far they would make the money back on 6 units sold. You have to inform the client of this and they will see the ROI.

With regards to your portfolio situation, I tell my clients that my company is newly formed however I personally have been in the industry for 8 years and here are the major Brands/PLC's I have been involved with.

 

[H22SolutionsLtd]

Some very interesting views in this thread. A bit of an eye opener for myself as I have not been in business for long, but in the industry for too long!

 

[RBS]

Hi guys,

I have registered a domain and now need to sort out hosting and a website.

I'm looking for something along the lines of claimangel . com in terms of design and look. Can anybody provide a quote for such a build?

Thanks
Mike
ClaimPro

For hosting I recommend this guy http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/forums/member.php?u=6284

Very friendly, experienced and helpful guy.

 

[hilhilginger]

If you are looking for cheap hosting the bighost is the best.Otherwise try for free php hosting service byet.I was working with those guys over couple of years.