HTML5 Rocks

[DotNetWebs]

Google have just released a great HTML5 demo:

http://www.html5rocks.com/

Just had a play with some of the features using Chrome - very impressive!

Regards

Dotty

 

[cmcp]

It's gonna be ace. We've got all our areas semantically named per the HTML5 working draft (article, section, nav, aside etc) so it should be seamless when rolled out. We use nifty CSS3 features here and there, currently using javascript to gracefully inject the same presentation into older editions.

Not long now!

 

[PETTE]

That's amazing!

 

[DanHaynes]

Nice, but the page did 'crash' about 8 times as I went through the demo (using chrome)

 

[DotNetWebs]

Nice, but the page did 'crash' about 8 times as I went through the demo (using chrome)

That's highlights the dilemma about using HTML 5 early - will the fancy features be worth the instability that may occur until all the bugs are ironed out.

Not to mention the large number of people that won't be able to see it for many years due to corporate policy of sticking with 'old' browsers.

Regards

Dotty

 

[garyk]

this is a great site showcasing html5 http://www.canvasdemos.com/

 

[Logistika]

Lime most html interfaces, it is ugly.

Using the lowest common denominator.

Why should I pay an extra £150 for the latest Gforce Video board to watch Sky in HD to have something that looks like it has been rendered using a 1990's machine?

Perhaps it is just my video adaptor not being within their hardware compatability list (The HCL was always a good excuse for Microsoft in delivering below par products)

The only advantage/issue with html 5 is that it interacts more with the users machine. It doesn't only want to store innocent cookie, but store its rendering as well. If I used a thin client solution, I'd ask myself why should I?

Perhaps I am missing the point of the new release, but I am not a novice user, and if I am missing the point, then surely millions of potential customers will miss the same point and treat HTML5 as an interim technology

 

[garyk]

I think the thing to bear in mind it is an *open* standard and not tied to a single vendor like say flash and it will be able to do all that flash can do.

 

[cmcp]

A sane response from YT

http://apiblog.youtube.com/2010/06/flash-and-html5-tag.html

 

[DotNetWebs]

A sane response from YT

http://apiblog.youtube.com/2010/06/flash-and-html5-tag.html

Thanks for that.

I have borrowed your link to support a point I was trying to make in this thread:

http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=159551

Regards

Dotty

 

[Kozmos]

The Doom2 written in HTML5 demo was good. I still need to look into HTML5 more as it just seemed like it was calling an equiv library to OpenGL etc.. it was something GL.


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[david rushton]

HTML5 looks like it really could be something good. Like others have said I just hope its usage isn't hindered to much by people refusing to work with newer browsers...we don't want the IE6 scenario all over again

 

[garyk]

HTML5 looks like it really could be something good. Like others have said I just hope its usage isn't hindered to much by people refusing to work with newer browsers...we don't want the IE6 scenario all over again

I dont think so, if anything IE is playing catchup in terms of HTML5 support, all the other major browsers; chrome, firefox and safari already have extensive support for it.

 

[martimedia]

HTML 5 does offer hope for the future in replacing Flash and Silverlight, but until IE9 comes along and relplaces IE6,7,8 (still used by a lot of companies) you will end up needing to code for the other 60% of users.

Saying that if you have a site that targets mobile users on Android and iPhone then HTML5 is the right choice today.

 

[garyk]

I'd agree that corporate usage of IE is still very high but as an overall %age of browser usage I suspected its much less and did a quick search and found this on w3schools for june 2010 (it has other months as well)

IE8 15.7%
IE7 8.1%
IE6 7.2%
Firefox 46.6%
Chrome 15.9%
Safari 3.6%
Opera 2.1%

 

[mehak]

Hey..

Thanks a lot…for sharing such impressive information about html5.
I too have something to share with you guys in same context !!!

It is an amazing hyper text markup language loaded with features like footer and header, offline storage, audio and video attributes, canvassing and lots more.

For more details you can also refer thehtml5tutorials- learn html5 online.

 

[Cromulent]

Google have just released a great HTML5 demo:

http://www.html5rocks.com/

Just had a play with some of the features using Chrome - very impressive!

Regards

Dotty

I find it ironic that the vast majority of code on the HTML 5 page is not actually HTML at all but Javascript or CSS.

HTML 5 is just a buzz word. Most of the stuff on that page has been possible for years.

 

[DotNetWebs]

....HTML 5 is just a buzz word. Most of the stuff on that page has been possible for years.

That's one way of looking at it but the important thing is that HTML5 is a clearly defined W3C STANDARD.

This is in contrast to a REAL buzz word/phrase like "WEB 2.0"...

Regards

Dotty

 

[Cromulent]

That's one way of looking at it but the important thing is that HTML5 is a clearly defined W3C STANDARD.

This is in contrast to a REAL buzz word/phrase like "WEB 2.0"...

Regards

Dotty

And my point remains that most of that stuff is not HTML but is actually Javascript and thus is not standardised. Hence the buzzword.

Only a very small subset of that site is actually likely to be in the HTML 5 standard. The rest will be handled in other standards that collectively form what is termed as HTML 5 (wrongly) such as SVG, CSS 3 and Javascript.

Although the main problem is that Javascript is not standardised by the W3C and is handled by a different organisation and there is still wide divergence between implementations on browsers (although it is improving). There is still no standardised Javascript library though.

 

[DotNetWebs]

And my point remains that most of that stuff is not HTML but is actually Javascript...

Yes and my point is that the [JavaScript] APIs which are being demonstrated on that site ARE part of the HTML5 Specification.

http://dev.w3.org/html5/html4-differences/#apis

I agree with all you have said that's it's largely the JavaScript and CSS that are making all the fancy demos work, but the HTML specification is no longer JUST about the mark up elements themselves.

Regards

Dotty