How to find who owns a company

[Andyl66]

Hi,
I have been trying to find out who owns a company, but cannot find anything on the companies house website.
Where else can I look to find out

Thanks.

 

[kathymac73]

If they are not a limited company try Google it should find out more info


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[Andyl66]

Hi,
Thanks, I did try that already but could not find out anything

Looking for some other way

 

[FirstClassVirtualOffice]

You can create an account and download a certain amount of free information directly from Companies House, including the names of the current appointed directors. Are they a Ltd Company and can you see their name on the register? or do you mean you can't find anything (because they're not registered as a Ltd Co perhaps)?

 

[MyAccountantOnline]

Hi,
I have been trying to find out who owns a company, but cannot find anything on the companies house website.
Where else can I look to find out

Thanks.

Go to Companies House website and download a copy of the company Annual Return that should show you what you need.

 

[MyAccountantOnline]

To add its not quite as easy to use the website as previously (I dont think it is anyway) when you get on the site follow the link which says Find company information

 

[The Byre]

duedil

 

[FirstClassVirtualOffice]

Yeah, they've introduced 2 pages just to reach the same page as before. Like they can't just put that link on the first page!

 

[Andyl66]

Hi
Thanks for the replies, I have tried Duedil and the link to the Companies House search, but they are just not appearing in either.

Any other ideas on how I find out who owns a company if they do not appear in the Companies House listing?

Thanks

 

[AllUpHere]

My guess is that it isn't a company, and you are actually looking for a sole trader or a partnership 'trading as'.

 

[PipeTen-Carl]

Any other ideas on how I find out who owns a company if they do not appear in the Companies House listing?

If it's not a Ltd, LLP/similar or UK based then it won't be in companies house.

Message me some info if you want me to double check on my creditsafe (like duedil account) or do some digging for you (especially if an online entity).

 

[Newchodge]

If they are not on Companies House they are not an english company. As in not a ltd company or not within Companies House jurisdiction.

 

[Ian J]

It isn't necessary to register anything anywhere if the company isn't limited but websites, invoices and letter headings should contain details of ownership eg John Smith trading as Southend Fencing

 

[Andyl66]

Hi PipeTen-Carl, Tried to send you a message but it would not let me send as I do not have 30 posts!!

 

[Andyl66]

So if the person I am trying to find is a sole trader and there is nothing on their invoice to indicate who they are, is there a way that I can trace who owns the company?

Thanks

 

[Newchodge]

So if the person I am trying to find is a sole trader and there is nothing on their invoice to indicate who they are, is there a way that I can trace who owns the company?

Thanks

No because there is no company, there is a sole trader. Who is required by law to identify him/herself on all official documentation: website, invoice. flyres etc.

 

[FirstClassVirtualOffice]

How come you have a business name and no address for them? Do they have a website or anything else like a facebook page?

 

[Andyl66]

They have a web site which gives what appears to be a company name, but no info on their web site or their invoice on who owns the company.

Would this be against the law for a sole trader to operate like this?

Thanks

 

[japancool]

They have a web site which gives what appears to be a company name, but no info on their web site or their invoice on who owns the company.

Would this be against the law for a sole trader to operate like this?

Thanks

Do you have an address? Is it a business or residential address?

 

[PipeTen-Carl]

They have a web site

Have you checked the whois records?

If it is a domain ending in .uk then according to Nominet rules the whois information must be visible and must be valid if they are conducting any commercial activity via it (this includes sites only banner adverts).

The registrant name is also always visible and must be valid, this should be Trading As if not a Ltd/LLP/formed company but can be an individual too.

If these are not visible, you can request Nominet make them visible.

Other domain extensions you are less likely to get this information.

Would this be against the law for a sole trader to operate like this?

If the business is conducted directly via the website, then they must abide by the distance selling regulations which would include their address.

If the business is issuing invoices, they must abide by the rules (not sure the official bill or regulation) as outlined https://www.gov.uk/invoicing-and-taking-payment-from-customers/invoices-what-they-must-include

 

[MyAccountantOnline]

Why not ask the business direct? If you want to do business with them its a perfectly reasonable question.

 

[mtools]

What's company name? I'll have a dig

 

[BDonna]

You can try with CompanyCheck (sorry I`m a newbie here and can`t give you the right link but you can search it in Google) or you can check who owns the domain of their website. I use whois.net

 

[Andyl66]

I have a sales invoice from them which gives me on a complany name and an address but no persons name. Their web site has the same company name but a different address.

I did a look up on whois and it just gave me the same company address as on the invoice, but I still dont know who owns the company

Any ideas on where I can find this?

Thanks very much everyone.

Your help is very much appreciated.

 

[Andyl66]

The company name is

noelt car sales

They have 2 addresses, The web site says
140-142 Holbrook Lane
Coventry
CV6 4BN

The address on the invoice which is the same address on whois is
149 Roland Avenue
Coventry
CV6 4HS

 

[MikeJ]

First is the business (former furniture store). Second is their home.

They don't appear to be limited.

 

[japancool]

So just do an electoral roll check on the residential address.

 

[PipeTen-Carl]

140-142 Holbrook Lane
Coventry
CV6 4BN

These Ltd sharing that address (either specified exactly the same 140-142, or individual units 140/141/142):

CUT PRICE SOFAS(HINCKLEY) LTD
HOME COMFORTS ( HINCKLEY) LTD
HOME FURNITURE HINCKLEY LTD
KIDZZZ BEDS LTD

All are either " Dissolution (First Gazette)" or without director, with an insolvency note against one Nandlal Shiv-Shanker.

HOME COMFORTS HOLBROOKS LTD has a director of Jay Daniel Shanker with a warning about recent board change. It looks like they've been having some problems but could be entirely unrelated.

149 Roland Avenue
Coventry
CV6 4HS

I found no Ltd for this address.

noelt car sales

I found 1 director of 1st name Noel with postcode starting CV6 but not with a surname starting T

 

[The Byre]

Jay Daniel Shanker

Born Oct. 1997, also of
Home Comforts Furniture Ltd.,
8 George Street Ringway
Bedworth
Warwickshire
CV12 8EB

 

[quartzdata]

Hi,

The email address on the contact page is: [email protected], which may be Jahja Danushaj (a bit of Googling) - can't find any other pieces of the puzzle.

Good luck

 

[japancool]

A dispute with the company? Or just trying to check on their trustworthiness?

jdanushaj - Jay Daniel Shanker?

 

[Andyl66]

Thanks everyone, I have a dispute with them and want to take them to a small claims court, I believe to do this I need to put the owner on the court papers and not the company name? Can anyone confirm if this is actually correct?

The company is a cars sales company, there is also a bed place operating from the same location, but they do appear to be totally seperate.

Thanks again all

 

[japancool]

I don't know the specifics of the small claims court papers, but I still think you should do an electoral roll search on the residential address. That would give you more of a clue, although of course, it won't tell you for certain.

One thing I note is that the bottom of the website says "Powered by Auto Trader", so presumably, Auto Trader would have their details.

 

[Andyl66]

i did a check on the property and it came back with two names of

Gurpreet Singh
Darshan Sangera Singh

It is close to the email address but not quite

 

[salford1986]

call them

 

[PipeTen-Carl]

Thanks everyone, I have a dispute with them and want to take them to a small claims court

To be clear within the context of the thread, them is Noelt Car Sales, which may or may not be related to any of the other details I and others have posted here.

It would of been nice if you'd of explained the situation fully in your original post tbh, but no biggie.

call them

Indeed, local phone box / area code, mate give them a call, ask something dumb about car like if it has heated seats or state of tyres, say you'll call back after speaking with the partner and ask for a name for if you call back to arrange a viewing.

You'll generally find even with very evasive people, they're much more amicable to disclosure when presented with a +£ scenario rather than -£/complaint scenario.

 

[paulears]

One thing you could do, if you have paid them money is to get your bank to confirm the account details of the recipient if they are a sole trader it will be f smith trading as abc car sales, then you know who had the money, so that person gets the court papers

 

[Andyl66]

Thanks for the updates.
They have a sales person who answers the phone who is not the owner of the company, so calling them would not get through to the owner.
The money I paid them was cash so there is no trail via my bank.

 

[japancool]

Sounds dodgier and dodgier by the minute!

 

[Newchodge]

Try contacting local tradins standards - they are breaking the law by not identifying the trader's name.