How far should, or can, website photographs be deceptive?

Lucan Unlordly

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An old mate of mine who's fleet of removal vehicles were perfectly functional, if not a little tired, bought a new truck, had it sign written and photographed from several angles so that he could superimpose the new company vehicles (plural) parked up outside their old barn of a business unit. He then went on to superimpose new signage over a bought in photo of their supposedly new but non existent, extended premises. This old family company now gave the appearance of having a much bigger fleet and more secure, modern storage facilities.

Scroll forward to today, whilst searching the website for a company I purchased from several months ago, I see that nearly all of the sales teams photographs have been changed for stock images. Mary is now an attractive redhead, Lorenzo, who must be 50 is now a young Italian stallion and 2 others now meet ethnic stereotypes.

In the scheme of things, no one's going to get hurt or die from the above deception, but is it good and legal practice?
 

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Have you never drooled hungrily over a 'photo of a delicious-looking meat pasty 'filled with chunks of tender steak' only to bite into it and be greeted with a thin brown paste reminiscent of a leaking radiator? Same thing.

Is it though? Trading standards, advertising standards?

In light of the medias eagerness to balance the ethnic diversity featured in it's programming, would it be acceptable to change the names of the production staff to something more 'relevant', accompany them with diverse stock photos and carry on as normal?
 
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An old mate of mine who's fleet of removal vehicles were perfectly functional, if not a little tired, bought a new truck, had it sign written and photographed from several angles so that he could superimpose the new company vehicles (plural) parked up outside their old barn of a business unit. He then went on to superimpose new signage over a bought in photo of their supposedly new but non existent, extended premises. This old family company now gave the appearance of having a much bigger fleet and more secure, modern storage facilities.

Scroll forward to today, whilst searching the website for a company I purchased from several months ago, I see that nearly all of the sales teams photographs have been changed for stock images. Mary is now an attractive redhead, Lorenzo, who must be 50 is now a young Italian stallion and 2 others now meet ethnic stereotypes.

In the scheme of things, no one's going to get hurt or die from the above deception, but is it good and legal practice?
It is quite possible the only people they are deceiving is themselves.
If people come to their premises or meet these people then they will see reality and wonder why they have been lied to.
If the real people do not want their pictures on the website then why put anything up anyway.
The normal purpose of putting your staff’s pictures up are to show they are just normal people enjoying their work and wanting to help you the customer.
Clearly you do not want to put poor quality images on a website so some editing is inevitable.
 
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Surely the only problem would be if the service provided is not as advertised? Other than that, people are expected to make their own decisions and do a little work. If you book a marquee for a wedding based on the website pics and get repaired ex-army tents you’d have an easy time with trading standards. If you got your rubbish collected in a 51 plate van not the 21 plate van in the photo, does that matter? This is about deliberate misleading and expectation. Maybe a wedding limo site needs accurate vehicle pics, but it’s just promotion and image. The take-away industry has always had pictures to guide you and they never look like what you get, as said. Websites consume stock images as a matter of course. My studio pics are carefully framed to hide the untidy bits, and the stain on the carpet. I show very expensive products in the pictures I rarely use but look good. Even at my age I scrutinise my face in images and wont use some.

Vanity I guess. I rather like the idea of making premises bigger and creating more vehicles. I might try that myself! I could even use both versions to flog my photoshop skills. I’ve been thinking of removing the car park weeds but I could photoshop them out?
 
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    I get what you’re saying but a lot of it may be to do with our friend data protection better to buy stock images and the rights rather than the hassle of staff images and all the hoops you must go through to get their permissions and then they go and leave. The latter has been a topic on here too
     
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    Lucan Unlordly

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    There have been complaints that team photos have not truly represented the ethnicity of all involved. Actors have come under fire for portraying historical characters who's ethnicity was the polar opposite of their own and Comedians feel the need to apologise for jokes told 40 years ago.

    Against this backdrop I guess my question is asking whether using practices to deceive on websites will be considered persona non gratis at some time in the future?
     
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    An old mate of mine who's fleet of removal vehicles were perfectly functional, if not a little tired, bought a new truck, had it sign written and photographed from several angles so that he could superimpose the new company vehicles (plural) parked up outside their old barn of a business unit. He then went on to superimpose new signage over a bought in photo of their supposedly new but non existent, extended premises. This old family company now gave the appearance of having a much bigger fleet and more secure, modern storage facilities.

    Scroll forward to today, whilst searching the website for a company I purchased from several months ago, I see that nearly all of the sales teams photographs have been changed for stock images. Mary is now an attractive redhead, Lorenzo, who must be 50 is now a young Italian stallion and 2 others now meet ethnic stereotypes.

    In the scheme of things, no one's going to get hurt or die from the above deception, but is it good and legal practice?

    Coming at it from a brand and web perspective;

    We sometimes have clients who need a new website, but don't necessarily have the photography or content budget. In an ideal scenario, we also factor a photoshoot. I often tell clients ' the most stunning website possible would be ruined if you put bad images on it'.

    So the challenge, how do you design someone a stunning new website, but avoid ruining it when it comes to populating it with content if the clients doesn't have good images. We have a process that we follow which I'll briefly outline below.

    For any project, be it building a large e-commerce website, or running a small social media campaign, we always produce a brand guideline doc. This is sometimes just an internal document for our team, but one which is crucial in determining how the clients brand will be represented online.... text and images falls within the scope of this document.

    If a client doesn't have great images, we will make decisions on what type of images we want to use in an ideal world. If for example, the client is a building company with a few example photos on their phones, we will look through these and start to build a library of ones that might be usable.

    Inevitablyy we will find a mix between usable, definitely not usable, and possibly usable. This is really where a brand guideline comes into play. It might be acceptable for example to use an image containing a good subject, which is badly taken, in the right context (on social for example).

    When it comes to websites, we will make a call on the website images based on the quality of images available to us. If we know that the client has an overall poor selection of images, we won't design a site that has huge hero images at the top of most pages.

    The other thing we often do, which I am a great advocate of is to use stock images. There are some great resources out there such as open-commons, canva's library, pixabay, as well as more premium offerings such as Shutter Stock.

    I'd rarely advise a client to use entirely stock images, but in the right context, they can work. We recently completed a website for a dog sitting service provider. Despite sitting for hundreds of dogs, we couldn't find one image which was really of the quality we would want to use. In this scenario we built a library of stock dog and puppy photos to use on the site.... yes they are not our client's customer's dogs, but our call is that we don't see that as deceptive or misleading.

    Where we do draw the line is when it comes to product images. If someone is selling a specific product, then it should be their responsibility to obtain or budget for usable images of that product.

    The same can be said of service-based sectors.If we were building a website for a construction company, I'd consider it very misleading if the client asked us to use a photograph of a stunning 5-bed detached house, which was stock. I wouldn't however have any issue using a close-up image of a builder using a hammer and nails.

    In terms of the op's example of changing staff images to be stock images of people who don't work for the company. I don't know if it is illegal, but personally, I think that is immoral and misleading. I'd probably not be very happy if I worked there either.

    I think in most cases a common-sense approach to how real and stock images are used should suffice, but of course, that does have to be underpinned by some moral standards and pride in your own product or service.
     
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    In the scheme of things, no one's going to get hurt or die from the above deception, but is it good and legal practice?
    They're probably ok legally but it's usually pretty easy to tell and I'd try to avoid doing business with dodgy companies like that.

    Paul.
     
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    An old mate of mine who's fleet of removal vehicles were perfectly functional, if not a little tired, bought a new truck, had it sign written and photographed from several angles so that he could superimpose the new company vehicles (plural) parked up outside their old barn of a business unit. He then went on to superimpose new signage over a bought in photo of their supposedly new but non existent, extended premises. This old family company now gave the appearance of having a much bigger fleet and more secure, modern storage facilities.

    Scroll forward to today, whilst searching the website for a company I purchased from several months ago, I see that nearly all of the sales teams photographs have been changed for stock images. Mary is now an attractive redhead, Lorenzo, who must be 50 is now a young Italian stallion and 2 others now meet ethnic stereotypes.

    In the scheme of things, no one's going to get hurt or die from the above deception, but is it good and legal practice?

    many businesses try to look bigger than they are on paper. As long as they are doing nothing illegal there is not a lot you can do about it.
     
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    I mean, some of that's quite odd. If there is literally a 'meet the team' page in which Mary has been replaced by someone who doesn't look like her, that's a bit much.

    But if someone has a 'get in touch' and uses some stock photography of an office, then that's pretty commonplace. In fact, if you work in graphic design, you get so used to seeing the same stock photos turn up in all sorts of places. I always think it's better to get your own photos (and certainly avoid overly fake-looking stock photos) but I get why this just isn't possible for various smaller companies.
     
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    I once had an office in a tower block, about two floors down, three windows in from the corner on a 30 storey building with 300 odd offices in it. I used the stock photo of the building, having paid for its use, on my advertising, showing my head office. I never claimed to own the whole building, but I think many assumed I did.

    I see no harm in it myself, how far do you go, an honest up to date financial report as well?
     
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    Have you never drooled hungrily over a 'photo of a delicious-looking meat pasty 'filled with chunks of tender steak' only to bite into it and be greeted with a thin brown paste reminiscent of a leaking radiator? Same thing.
    This is against the Trade Descriptions Act and illegal. Complain to Trading Standards and they could prosecute.

    Many years ago I did photography for food packaging. I went to a lot of trouble to do things right. Debates about how many peas could be called a serving suggestion on a shot of Bird's Eye burgers could take hours.

    I once did the range of Vesta dehydrated foods. We would tip six packets onto the table and then count the number of peas, pieces of carrot etc to make sure the photo matched the average number in a pack.
     
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    This is against the Trade Descriptions Act and illegal. Complain to Trading Standards and they could prosecute.

    Many years ago I did photography for food packaging. I went to a lot of trouble to do things right. Debates about how many peas could be called a serving suggestion on a shot of Bird's Eye burgers could take hours.

    I once did the range of Vesta dehydrated foods. We would tip six packets onto the table and then count the number of peas, pieces of carrot etc to make sure the photo matched the average number in a pack.
    Regarding product not matching photo, then I understand your point about trade descriptions.

    But making the whole business/service look more established, manipulated to look more trustworthy etc, how does this fit in?

    Ive known of 2 accounts where companies have been in trouble for posting fake user reviews, however I am sure there are many hundreds or thousands more companies which have done this.

    Sellers saying the product is manufactured in UK but then come with a chinese shipping label has always annoyed me.

    So is this allowed or would it go aginst some standard to make your business look better than it is?
     
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    Lucan Unlordly

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    I once did the range of Vesta dehydrated foods.

    I have to smile........:) subliminal advertising and all that....
    One of our guilty pleasures used to be Vesta Beef Curry which is so far removed from traditional fayre to to be worthy of a trades descriptions complaint!

    No longer available in any major supermarket, reading your post inspired me to search them out online and order 4 packets which arrived a few minutes ago!:p Here's hoping that it's still as deliciously awful as it was last time I had it:D
     
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    advertising standards?

    Yes advertising standards apply to websites. If the website is deliberately misleading then they can take action.

    ASA website makes fun reading full of rulings, especially social media for 'non disclosurer by influencers' , but website images too - e.g. this hotel that had an image of an AA 4* sign but wasn't https://www.asa.org.uk/rulings/the-snooty-fox-a18-464459.html

    If you feel deceived you can lodge a complaint https://www.asa.org.uk/make-a-complaint.html
     
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