How do I improve Google rankings?

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Afternoon ladies and gents.

I have just had a website designed, which went live last week.
I have worked my way through the SEO tools provided by Bonline who designed the site. I have changed the keywords and all that jazz, but wondered what the best/quickest way to improve my google rankings?
Its fair to say I am pretty clueless with this stuff, so please keep it simple haha!

Thank you in advance.
 

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Looking at the site I'd say with great difficulty. Ranking begins with the site structure, Content and navigation, page titles and page structures.

Optimising your site for Google might be a bit of struggle because of how they have built the site.

Ps: take a look at the site on your phone. It's pretty dire...
 
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Looking at the site I'd say with great difficulty. Ranking begins with the site structure, Content and navigation, page titles and page structures.

Optimising your site for Google might be a bit of struggle because of how they have built the site.

Ps: take a look at the site on your phone. It's pretty dire...

Why is it dire? Can you explain what you mean?
 
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Why is it dire? Can you explain what you mean?
Because the styling is all over the place and it looks awful. It's not much better on a desktop.

If you want to rank well you need to optimise each page. That means working from top to bottom on each element. It wouldn't be that difficult to rank locally - but not with your new site. SEO is something that needs to be built into the very core or your site, it's not so easy to bolt it on afterwards. Sorry to be so blunt but whoever built the site has made a right hash of things.

If you want a review of your site join the forum as a full member.
 
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Because the styling is all over the place and it looks awful. It's not much better on a desktop.

If you want to rank well you need to optimise each page. That means working from top to bottom on each element. It wouldn't be that difficult to rank locally - but not with your new site. SEO is something that needs to be built into the very core or your site, it's not so easy to bolt it on afterwards. Sorry to be so blunt but whoever built the site has made a right hash of things.

If you want a review of your site join the forum as a full member.

I don't want a review of the site but thanks anyway. All the best.
 
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Run the site through the Google pagespeed insights test and it'll give you a clue as to how it may look on a mobile.

Hi mate thanks for the link. I run a test and it scored 73/100 on the mobile version and 90/100 on the desktop...

To be honest everything it says on there may aswell be written in morse code coz I haven't got a clue what it means! lol
 
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I don't want a review of the site but thanks anyway. All the best.
Fair enough, but to go back to your original question: if you want to rank well you need to make a lot of changes to the site.

The google test you did won't help with your ranking, all it tells you is how well it performs in a speed test.
 
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Hi mate thanks for the link. I run a test and it scored 73/100 on the mobile version and 90/100 on the desktop...

To be honest everything it says on there may aswell be written in morse code coz I haven't got a clue what it means! lol

Try this - it should be a bit easier to understand. We found it extremely useful.

http://nibbler.silktide.com

Dan
 
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You need to listen to Fiscix's advice unfortunately.

The overall design has major issues that even if you do get traffic to the site, then it probably won't convert - non clickable email addresses and contact us links for starters and bloated code using table based layouts.

I can't really list any more without it being a review but I would honestly get the site sorted out first before you spend any money/time on SEO

Hope this helps
 
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What did you decide to do in the end, Chris?

Still a bit up in the air mate. Had a couple of chaps offer to take a look at my website so waiting on there response.

Very much open to suggestions still. Things got put on hold a bit as had a bit of working coming through my website, despite it being slated, so it can't be as bad as people made out!!
 
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    Things got put on hold a bit as had a bit of working coming through my website, despite it being slated, so it can't be as bad as people made out!!

    It's easy to make this mistake - why settle for the number of enquiries the site is currently providing when it could (if sorted out properly) provide so much more? That's what you've invested your time and money into it for after all.

    On my smartphone (which is apparently where most people do their 'interneting' now) the site is rearranged totally and the headings are unreadable. I would skip back right away if I found it on my mobile. Those are potential customers that are turning away because of that issue.

    Google also penalises sites which don't render well on mobile now.
     
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    boring-friday

    Not seen your site but you should really sort it out if its bad from the comments. I see it as this: If your onsite seo is crap you won't get the value of off site, might only be 50% as effective for example, then if your site doesn't convert well you might get 50% less conversions so you're basically spending time/money on off site thats only 25% as effective.
    I'd add in rich snippets, these are like when you see 5/5 reviews just below the url when you search, get your friends to leave fake reviews for you. You also need to sign up for google places and get your friends to leave you fake reviews there too, obviously make them look natural.

    For offsite:

    I'd start with a press release, try and think of something interesting for them to write about and they'll make it look good as they're high quality writers, I use:
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...lease-writing-submission-huge-distributi.html

    That should get picked up by some local sites if you have something vaguely interesting as they'll be signed up to receive alerts for any press releases coming up in their area.

    you should make some local citations, if you don't want to do it yourself you can use:
    http://localcitationservices.com/pricing-plans

    Order 15 every week or 2, just tell him you'll be ordering again and to keep a note of what you already have. Then I'd send spam to the citations, I use:
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...s-thousands-contextual-links-mixed-links.html

    You can tell him you don't know what you're doing and he'll tell you how many are best, 5000 contextual links split between 50 different citations would probably be ideal and then you can order again a month or 2 later the same.

    I'd add in some business type citations too and order contextual links to them also. You can also buy some web 2.0s, these are sites that allow you to make your own website without having to buy a url, e.g wordpress,blogger. Because 'your site' is hosted on their domain you can send spam links at them too, I use:
    https://backlinkservice.wufoo.eu/forms/private-buffer-sites-network/

    Tell him you're a plumber and you don't know what you're doing and he'll help you out again, he'll make the titles/urls as 'plumber 'your area'' etc and write a article about it. That service includes tier 2 but I'd send more to them monthly.

    I'd also find a couple of local business/sport teams to sponsor, only cheap ones but they'll tell google you're local and legit and also get your traffic from local people and make u look a nice guy.

    Note that this would be seen as really black hat by people on here but in real life its basically white hat, highly unlikely google will penalize you for any of it anytime in the next couple of years. Depending on where you are you should get top 5 on google easily unless you're in a big city. Yell etc normally take the first spot though, I wouldn't even bother going for that if you're a 1 man band 2nd should be fine. Just sort out the meta description (the 2 lines that show up in search results below your site) so that people are clicking through to your site.

    Keep adding to that for a few months, 15 of the citations every week or 2, 5 web 2.0s once a month and more tier 2 spam sent once a month. If you aren't in the top 3 within 3-4 months then you either need to wait or order some pbn posts, these are more risky but still unlikely you'll get penalized if you use a high quality service that has a low amount of outbound links.
     
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    Or just fix the site and do some on site SEO. It's a tiddly little local site for a plumber. The competition is pants so ranking will be a doddle.
     
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    Can someone recommend somebody to fix the site for me and do some SEO work for me please?

    I am very thankful for all the comments and advice above but I literally have no idea what a lot of it even means!!

    Like I say, this is a very new environment for me and I'd rather get someone to deal with it, who knows what they are doing, than me try and fix things which I don't even know what are!
     
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    Not seen your site but you should really sort it out if its bad from the comments. I see it as this: If your onsite seo is crap you won't get the value of off site, might only be 50% as effective for example, then if your site doesn't convert well you might get 50% less conversions so you're basically spending time/money on off site thats only 25% as effective.
    I'd add in rich snippets, these are like when you see 5/5 reviews just below the url when you search, get your friends to leave fake reviews for you. You also need to sign up for google places and get your friends to leave you fake reviews there too, obviously make them look natural.

    For offsite:

    I'd start with a press release, try and think of something interesting for them to write about and they'll make it look good as they're high quality writers, I use:
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...lease-writing-submission-huge-distributi.html

    That should get picked up by some local sites if you have something vaguely interesting as they'll be signed up to receive alerts for any press releases coming up in their area.

    you should make some local citations, if you don't want to do it yourself you can use:
    http://localcitationservices.com/pricing-plans

    Order 15 every week or 2, just tell him you'll be ordering again and to keep a note of what you already have. Then I'd send spam to the citations, I use:
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...s-thousands-contextual-links-mixed-links.html

    You can tell him you don't know what you're doing and he'll tell you how many are best, 5000 contextual links split between 50 different citations would probably be ideal and then you can order again a month or 2 later the same.

    I'd add in some business type citations too and order contextual links to them also. You can also buy some web 2.0s, these are sites that allow you to make your own website without having to buy a url, e.g wordpress,blogger. Because 'your site' is hosted on their domain you can send spam links at them too, I use:
    https://backlinkservice.wufoo.eu/forms/private-buffer-sites-network/

    Tell him you're a plumber and you don't know what you're doing and he'll help you out again, he'll make the titles/urls as 'plumber 'your area'' etc and write a article about it. That service includes tier 2 but I'd send more to them monthly.

    I'd also find a couple of local business/sport teams to sponsor, only cheap ones but they'll tell google you're local and legit and also get your traffic from local people and make u look a nice guy.

    Note that this would be seen as really black hat by people on here but in real life its basically white hat, highly unlikely google will penalize you for any of it anytime in the next couple of years. Depending on where you are you should get top 5 on google easily unless you're in a big city. Yell etc normally take the first spot though, I wouldn't even bother going for that if you're a 1 man band 2nd should be fine. Just sort out the meta description (the 2 lines that show up in search results below your site) so that people are clicking through to your site.

    Keep adding to that for a few months, 15 of the citations every week or 2, 5 web 2.0s once a month and more tier 2 spam sent once a month. If you aren't in the top 3 within 3-4 months then you either need to wait or order some pbn posts, these are more risky but still unlikely you'll get penalized if you use a high quality service that has a low amount of outbound links.

    It seems a great shame that somebody who is in business comes to a business advisory site and is told that to get more business he should lie about his services by putting up fake testimonials about himself, and also that he should spam people!
     
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    It seems a great shame that somebody who is in business comes to a business advisory site and is told that to get more business he should lie about his services by putting up fake testimonials about himself, and also that he should spam people!

    Not sure if you're being serious? The best (or second best) footballer in the world is sponsored by herbalife, do you think he uses it?
    I didn't say he should spam people, just send spam links, althought I'd spam people too lol
     
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    You should start from the ground up, you need a comprehensive marketing strategy.
    Google is now mainly about quality, relevance and authority.
    If you start trying to trick search engines the chances are soon or later it will catch up with you.

    Here's a quick checklist to get you started:-
    Make sure your website is top quality clean and smooth
    Create top-quality content and post it on a blog on your site
    Reach out for top quality highly relevant back links
     
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    Not sure if you're being serious? The best (or second best) footballer in the world is sponsored by herbalife, do you think he uses it?
    I didn't say he should spam people, just send spam links, althought I'd spam people too lol

    That's completely different. If Herbalife sponsor this guy, then thats totally transparent. They are paying him to promote their product whether he uses it or not. He's just an advert. Making up a false testimonial is a totally different issue and bordering on fraud.
     
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    using a false testimonial is illegal. last year the web came under the powers of the Advertising standards agency, and as such the legal decent honest and truthful laws apply.

    use a false testimonial that you are unable to produce at inspection, and you could find yourself with a hefty fine, and the site slapped.
     
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    Unfortunately there is no quick way to improve google rankings. It''s a hard and long task.
    Basically you'll need to set the right keywords for all your pages on site. And then start link building by adding links to your site to as much resources as possible.
    You'll usually see some significant results after 6 month of hard work
     
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    Make your website Google Friendly:

    Provide sitemaps
    Use schema.org for products
    Make the website mobile friendly
    Optimise images for speed
    Add alt and title tags to images and links respectively
    Create pages of content relevant to your website only
    Sign up to Google Webmaster tools and track your visitors
    Make sure you have no 404 errors
    Try and get some backlinks from relevant directories.

    I have made websites that are on page one in front of 82 million others.

    Try searching for 'plant packaging' in the UK or blister packaging on google to find Macpac.
     
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    I have made websites that are on page one in front of 82 million others.
    Not quite true. By the time you get to page 2 the results are already displaying for packaging plant which isn't the same thing at all. And as you go further down the SERPS a lot of the results don't even contain bother words. An exact match search returns 48000 results and even then the results past page 1 aren't that relevant.
     
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    You are correct, perhaps Google has changed alot.

    Page one for:

    "thermoformed packaging" out of 47,900 results
    "horticultural packaging" out of 528,000 results
    "blister packaging" out of 442,000 results

    What about Gardner CNC?
    It's on page one here for "cnc training uk"
    and an exact match for "cnc training" out of 187,000 results
     
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    I have made websites that are on page one in front of 82 million others.

    Try searching for 'plant packaging' in the UK or blister packaging on google to find Macpac.

    I did try searching, I used a couple of Google operators to refine the serps and there's almost no competition for that keyword (plant packaging). I know what you've done, you typed in that keyword phrase and Google said "About 88,600,000 results" - but that's not competition I'm afraid.
     
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