Help importing from Italy.

[Mr Dibbs]

Hi

I've been importing to the UK from France, Germany and Belgium for the last 4 years (nails and washers). I do not export. I am now trying to import from a factory in Italy, but my pallet courier has not been able to get my shipment moving now for over 4 weeks since collection. The pallet company is telling me to provide the commercial invoice with the correct information, but are unable to tell us exactly what is wrong and what information is missing. The commercial invoice format and information is working just fine for France, Germany and Belgium. I'm assuming this is going to be something as simple as a single line of text that is required on the invoice, or needs to be removed. The last email I had from the pallet company stated

"We need correct invoice where is declared art. 8. In invoice attached there are both article 8 and article 41 (and it’s not possible)"

2 weeks ago the pallet company asked me to get the following line added to the invoice.

"8. Y920 Libia (prodotti e tecnologie militari)
non rientra nell'elenco dei beni come da Regolamento (UE) 2016/44 del Consiglio, del 18 gennaio 2016, concernente misure restrittive
inconsiderazione della situazione in Libia e che abroga il regolamento (UE)
n. 204/2011;"

Is there anyone that knows about Italian exports that could point me in the right direction so that I can add/remove whatever it is that is stopping my shipment from moving.

 

[WaveJumper]

Have you stuck that into AI to see what it means?

 

[ctrlbrk]

Google Translate:

Y920 Libya (military products and technologies) is not included in the list of goods pursuant to Council Regulation (EU) 2016/44 of 18 January 2016 concerning restrictive measures in view of the situation in Libya and repealing Regulation (EU)
No. 204/2011

 

[Mr Dibbs]

Have you stuck that into AI to see what it means?

Yes, and got a translation, which provided no help. Nails and washers do not appear to be recognised as being "dual use" for military purposes, in any customs juristiction in the world as far as I can tell, and the pallet shipper could not give me a reason, why they were instructing me to add it to the commercial invoice, other than they believed it would get the shipment moving.

 

[Customs Geek]

It’s very difficult to give any sensible advise with such few facts. It’s unlikely that there is a generic requirement for content of a commercial invoice that is specific to Italy.

The suggested statement looks to be one of what is known as Y codes that need to be declared on the export declaration ( and import declarations).There are hundreds of them so which ones that are needed will depend on the goods HS code) and where they are being exported to. However they are not usually put on commercial invoices.
Remember You have to complete export out of Italy before you can import into UK. If you are not an EU based company that is fraught with potential problems in itself.

I certainly wouldn’t recommend putting statements you don’t understand on the documents. Whilst that statement is saying the goods are not subject to export controls it is specifically for Libya so unless you are exporting ( from Italy) to Libya it’s unlikely that particular statement would be applicable .

 

[Mr Dibbs]

It’s very difficult to give any sensible advise with such few facts. It’s unlikely that there is a generic requirement for content of a commercial invoice that is specific to Italy.

The suggested statement looks to be one of what is known as Y codes that need to be declared on the export declaration ( and import declarations).There are hundreds of them so which ones that are needed will depend on the goods HS code) and where they are being exported to. However they are not usually put on commercial invoices.
Remember You have to complete export out of Italy before you can import into UK. If you are not an EU based company that is fraught with potential problems in itself.

I certainly wouldn’t recommend putting statements you don’t understand on the documents. Whilst that statement is saying the goods are not subject to export controls it is specifically for Libya so unless you are exporting ( from Italy) to Libya it’s unlikely that particular statement would be applicable .

Hi

What facts would you need? Could I DM you the invoice, and see if you can spot the issue?

 

[Mr Dibbs]

Any help from anyone would be appreciated, my Pallet has been stuck in Italy now since July, and no-one seems willing to give me a clear-english explanation of what is holding it up. It's just going back and forth
Please provide the correct information
What information do you need
Please provide the correct information
What information do you need
The manufacturer hasn't got a clue what they're asking for either, as he's never exported to the UK.

 

[Customs Geek]

DM me a copy of the invoice. I can’t promise anything .

 

[scstock]

Brexit - the gift that keeps on giving.

 

[TCH]

what about the Italian Chamber of Commerce, in London

they may be helpful, if they see export promotion as part of their job

 

[Mr Dibbs]

what about the Italian Chamber of Commerce, in London

they may be helpful, if they see export promotion as part of their job

Hi

I didn't know that was a thing. I've just googled it. Thanks for the suggestion.

 

[Rai and Co.]

Hi Mr Dibbs,

Just came across your thread - are you still looking for support on this? I help SMEs resolve shipping issues. Happy to help if you're still working through it.