Help! Advice needed with EPOS/tills etc

Alex Abbotts

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Hi,
we are just currently in the process of buying a village shop and tearoom. To explain it briefly the shop is at the front and the tearoom at the back, accessed by a different door for customers so staff stand in the middle.
What Im really confused about at the moment is all the different till, EPOS, accounting systems etc. They currently have a Sams 380 cash register in the shop and a cash drawer connected to a computer etc in the tea room using samstock which they then connect via wire to the till. However the sellers are taking this all with them (bar the shop cash register).
I was wondering whether it would be best to replace the whole system and get two linked fancy tills or to just replace the system as it is? The profit of the shop isn't huge, its a small village, but there is lots of different things sold and this is our first time running a business or doing accounting etc. Its all very confusing!! Thank you
 

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To be honest, they will lie a lot which is impossible to imagine how much, the sales team will be very nice seem to offer you a lot but only squeeze out as much money as possible, they will promise a lot over the phone and invoice will only show equipment and once you have paid you will find out nothing was true, you end up paying more and get less. some of the equipment which was meant to be a part of the package was not inc the package so we had to buy it after for double the price it was originally (had no choice but to buy because we needed to be setup).

We got told after the first year we can pay a small fee of £10 to get hardware cover nothing else, now we find out after the first year we need to pay £25 for licence and support fee plus £290 for hardware support, we got told they will inc adding products free, once paid we got told if we want it will be £300, They offer nothing once they you have paid, support was pillar to post, we have been chased after them to get support for 3 weeks, it took us 4 weeks to get everything setup, after this we stopped bothering with them, the only time they even talk to us is when they want to sell us something else.


If I was to do it all again I would just buy a cheap touch screen pc, receipt printer and a multi beam barcode scanner and buy the software separate,
 
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Alex Abbotts

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wow ok. I can see how that could happen :/ everything does seem a little too good and quite expensive already. Best avoided it seems!!

thank you for your advice. I think we shall be doing what you suggested and buying a separate computer/software system
 
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Hi Alex,

What I recommend you is that you determine what kind of hardware you need (touchscreen, barcode reader, receipt printer, label printer,...) and what are the functionalities you wish your POS system stands. After that, look first for the software that support all those functionalities and peripherals and after getting the software, buy the hardware.

There are many POS software companies that give you the possibility to download a free trial version for some days. You can take a look for some of those softwares and determine which one is a perfect match for you.

I recommend you to try Cizaro POS as they have a very strong and flexible product with possibility to work with cloud and/or local database and the possibility to manage your sales, inventory, financial, employees, suppliers and customers. They also have 24/7 support.
 
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Hi, if you are buying an existing business then I would have thought that would have included the till and stock system. My advice is try and get their till / stock system included in the transfer or make an offer for the existing system including training (it's always easier and less stressful to start from an existing system and then think about improvements after a settling in period). Good luck :)
 
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intelligentpos

If you are considering a new POS system then there are a few things to look out for:
  • Are software updates included or extra?
  • Are there any extra fees for cloud hosting of your sales data?
  • Can you view your sales data remotely and manage products?
  • How much is the monthly support/maintenance fee?
  • Is there telephone support at the times when you need it?
  • How much will the initial hardware purchase be?
  • How much is training and installation?
It's a good idea to ask around and get recommendations from your peers and work with a company that you trust.

Good luck :)
 
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Hi, just saw this posting from "Essential Paradox" on another thread and it may help (or not).

Quote from "Essential Paradox":-
"I always feel like I've found a secret gem on the App Store when people see my POS system. It's called Mobi-POS and is aimed at food and service industry. It was a flat one-off fee of £45 before, now they've just switched to £7 per month, which is still incredibly low in my eyes, especially from what I've seen from other POS systems (£30-£80 per month?!?).
It's just a team of small guys but incredibly good support and great software."


This is the thread the above came from :- ukbusinessforums.co.uk/ threads/epos-which-system-are-you-using-and-would-recommend.352331/page-2#post-2678723
 
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Modern Retail UK

Here are some key questions and answers to think about before you buy an EPOS system! Hope they help you!


WHERE DO I NEED TO MAKE SALES?

Your first consideration should be where you make sales. Do you have one store with a fixed cash desk, a large store with several pay points or several stores that need to be linked electronically for stock control and reporting? Do staff need to move away from the cash desk to make transactions? Do you have off-site locations you need to take payments at, such as concessions, franchises or stalls?


If your location requires a cash desk and no more, your requirements are likely to be straightforward; for example a basic retail computer terminal with a cash drawer may be sufficient. But if you need mobile point of sale devices for the shop floor or a system that can be used on smartphones or tablets, then you’ll need a more complex option.



HOW MUCH SHOULD I SPEND?


You might be tempted to go for the cheapest system that meets your needs, but to make a good investment you need an EPOS system that grows with your business and isn’t defunct within a couple of years. Consider how flexible a system is – can you add technology or features at a later date?



Look at what impact the right EPOS system could have on your bottom line. For example, stock control features could save you money in the long run, ensuring you are able to manage cash flow effectively. These potential savings should be balanced against your initial investment.



HOW EASY IS IT TO USE?


An EPOS system is a crucial point of contact between staff and customers. A bad system results in frustrated customers and stressed staff. A good system makes interactions quicker, smoother and more effective.



Is the system you’re considering intuitive, or will staff need extensive training? If a sales assistant needs to consult a manual every time something unusual comes up, customer experience will suffer. Make a list of out-of-the-ordinary transactions you need to handle such as gift cards, promotional schemes, discounts or loyalty schemes and ask a sales rep to take you through how the system handles these.



Also look at the physical side of the system; how quick and easy is it to change a till roll, for example? Can staff do it in a few seconds without a queue of impatient customers forming at the desk?



WHAT EXTRA DATA CAN IT GIVE ME?


Modern EPOS systems can gather useful data that could improve your business, so it’s worth investigating what kind of feedback is available. Make a list of information or additional functionality you want, and ask a sales rep to demonstrate how a particular system meets your requirements. Many EPOS systems can even offer suggestions at point of sale, such as prompting staff to upsell based on the products that are being scanned.

HOW CAN IT HELP WITH MY STOCK CONTROL?


Many EPOS systems have in-depth stock control functionality that goes far beyond just keeping a tally of items sold. You may decide you want a system that offers hand-held scanners for warehouse management, shelf stacking or stocktaking. Some systems can prompt you to order new stock or warn you if stock levels are too high on particular product lines.


DOES IT WORK WITH MY WEBSITE?


If you operate a retail website as well as a physical store, it’s a good idea to go for an EPOS system that can integrate with your website, keeping product pages updated with stock levels based on what you have in store. If you already have a website, look at whether an EPOS system can integrate with it, although a more efficient option is likely to be creating a website based on your EPOS system.


HOW CAN PEOPLE PAY?


Along with good old cash and chip and pin, contactless cards are becoming increasingly popular, with a 249.9% rise in use between March 2015 and March 2016. And other methods are also emerging; 13% of UK adults have used a smartphone to pay in-store. You’ll need to balance ease of payment and choice of method with any costs involved in including the technology.



CAN I USE IT TO CAPTURE CUSTOMER INFORMATION?


Keeping in contact with customers allows you to build a long-lasting relationship and encourage follow-up sales, and many EPOS systems can handle this, managing email lists and linking customer details to purchasing patterns and other information.



WILL I GET THE RIGHT SUPPORT?


Any EPOS system is likely to throw up issues at some point that require tech support, so the last question on our list is one of the most important – what support is on offer? Will it be easily available at the times you need it?



An EPOS system could be one of your largest investments as a business, so you want it to work for you in the long term. Your supplier should keep you informed about new services and products and changes in technology that could improve your efficiency in future.


 
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Lourie_C

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The questions mentioned above are all very helpful to get you started. It really depends on the type of business that you run. Is it a small or medium sized business? If so, I would recommend Lightspeed POS. They run everything from inventory management to customer relationship management, to accounting, to advanced reporting, integrations, and much more www. lightspeedhq.co.uk-pos-system
 
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