Gas/Electricity bills for takeaway

[koplegend]

Hi please could those people who own or use to own a takeaway give me a rough idea of how much their gas, electricity & water bills used to be for a takeaway. I know this varies a lot but i just need to know so that i can get a rough idea as at the moment i am merely guessing. Would you say £250 a week for all three is about right or would it be higher/lower. The shop has seating for 20 people so is decent size but not massive. Kitchen will have steamer on electric, pizza oven, grill, chip fryers x2 on gas and hcw/microwave on electric. Then of course all lighting as well which is LED in the front and normal tube lights in the kitchen. There is aair conditioning/heating unit in the shop too. Shop will trade for 12 hours a day.

Any help with regard to how much bills would be would be much appreciated as it is very important. Thank you. Please reply.

 

[TradeSmart]

It is purely down to usage and how often equipment in the premises is being used and also what rates the premises is currently on by the supplier.

You may be trading for 12 hours, but how busy are you ?

A local takeaway beside mine that I dealt with last year, had no seating area, was not huge in size, but was constantly busy. Gas bill was around £1400 a month and electric was roughly £400.

Do you own the takeaway, or is something you're looking to purchase and that's why you're asking ?

Without seeing usage and rates, there is no way at all to say it should be such and such per week/month.

 

[ethical PR]

Why don't you ask the current tenants/owners?

 

[koplegend]

Because the shop is not currently a takeaway so would be pointless. I'm not asking for people to give me an estimate i just wanted those people who have or used to have a catering business or know someone with a catering business ifthey could tell me how much their bills come to roughly so i get an idea of how much mine could be.

 

[koplegend]

I will have 2 large fridges, 2 freezers, drinks fridge, chip scuttle, 2 microwaves, pizza oven all running on electric and chip fryer, grill and combi oven running on gas. Shop will be open for 12 hours and lets assume the machines are on all day.

 

[TradeSmart]

People in that industry could tell you how much their bills are, but theres no way you can take that as a guide to how much yours would be.

Too many factors to take into consideration starting with what rates you would be on and your actual usage.

 

[NickGrogan]

Almost impossible to give figures.

1) Location - rates very by 10-15% for the same supplier to different regions - http://www.ukbusinessforums.co.uk/x...ace-to-start-a-new-business-electricity.2741/

2) meter type / tariff - even if you know the region, what kind of meter is installed and what hours are you open? A single rate will be cheaper in the day, but an evening / weekend tariff is great if you do most of your business after 7 and weekends.

3) Age of equipment - a chip fryer on it's last legs is going to use a lot more gas than a new one.

4) Turnover - if you're a busy takeaway, cooking all day with a line out the door, you'll use far more energy then one that's empty.

Looking at gas usage alone, my smallest takeaway client used around 50,000 kWh (£1750) last year, my largest nearly 700,000 kWh (£24,000)

But in answer to your question, £1,000 is unlikely to cover it for a unit that size, if it's busy.

 

[Ozzy]

@NickGrogan
Considering how many people are landing on this thread constantly in at the moment, I have unlocked this thread for replies and if you have any new information to add Nick feel free.

 

[NickGrogan]

Thanks @Ozzy

Happy to answer any questions.

Prices are still very volatile, but more suppliers are coming back into the market which is bringing a bit more competition.

We're still seeing prices around the 35p - 45p market for small businesses, which is crazy considering that this time last year we were quoting 13p - 15p,

Out of contract rates are still crazy. £1 per kWh for power and 20p for gas.

 

[The Byre]

I totted up the kW ratings for typical small installations and multiplied by Nick's rates and it comes to about £100 a day. So I would budget £40k a year for a small takeaway.