Fire regulations, will i get into trouble???

[silverlake77]

Hello, i could use a little advice if anyone can advise me.
I am a domestic furniture supplier thinking of moving into contract work, i understand that furniture in medium risk fire venues such as, hotels, bars ect. need to be 'crib 5', this is a british fire regulation for furniture.
some of the furnishings i supply are not crib 5.
My question is, ' whos responsability is it to make sure that the furnishings are crib 5? Can i get into trouble for selling it to hotels/bars ect.
I have alot of people who dont care about fire regs who still want the goods, mainly because there top quality and very cheap.
IF i put a notice in the brochure that they are not crib 5 will this cover me.
many thanks
john

 

[profitxchange]

My first suggestion would be to have a chat with trading standards.
My gut feel is that you would be responsible for any consequences of selling non compliant furniture. Opt outs will not hold water.

 

[citypad]

as long as you let them know when they purchase the product then there shouldnt be a problem, maybe make a note of it when you invoice them.

 

[Desforma]

yes mate, you better be cearful, one more place could answer you question is British Standard Institute, google them, and you will find their phone numbers, if trade standards would not be able to answer
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[papverpoppies]

I do not think you can.

I think the places you sell them to, would fail to get their fire safety certficate, if the furniture did not meet the standard.

Also contact your local 'fire safety service', they will tell you the guidelines for furniture.

The law is very rigid, and rightly so, these days.

Poppy

 

[saxondale]

unlike 2008?

 

[papverpoppies]

Hello, i could use a little advice if anyone can advise me.
I am a domestic furniture supplier thinking of moving into contract work, i understand that furniture in medium risk fire venues such as, hotels, bars ect. need to be 'crib 5', this is a british fire regulation for furniture.
some of the furnishings i supply are not crib 5.
My question is, ' whos responsability is it to make sure that the furnishings are crib 5? Can i get into trouble for selling it to hotels/bars ect.
I have alot of people who dont care about fire regs who still want the goods, mainly because there top quality and very cheap.
IF i put a notice in the brochure that they are not crib 5 will this cover me.
many thanks
john

I was married to a fire officer, and believe me, you do not want to be supplying non compliant furniture to anyone.

It takes seconds for someone to die from smoke inhulation, let alone the burns plus the lives put at risk, fighting the fire.

Hotels etc etc, have people who often smoke in places they should not, they have one to many drinks, and the cigarette/ash falls onto the chair..the consequences are devastating.

How any hotel owner etc, could think that saving money was worth risking lives is beyond me, and you should not contemplate supplying them.

If these are owners who run multiple occupancy BB's then there is even more potential for a fatal fire - do you really want that on your conscience for ever more.

Making money is important, but surely not at the risk of death.

I am sorry to come overly strong, but I have been grounded in the horrors of 'fire' and the resulting deaths.

Poppy

 

[Bri]

Very frightening!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Cobby]

If you brand them as 'crib 5' and they aren't, you're in trouble.
If an order is placed with you for custom 'crib 5' furniture you must make it 'crib 5', or you're in trouble.

If you sell non-crib furniture to a hotel/bar/etc and they buy it knowing it isn't 'crib 5', then it isn't your responsibility. It is clearly the responsibility of the hotel/bar/etc to ensure they are complying with appropriate laws.

 

[iklelamb]

Out of interest, did you contact trading standards to clarify who would be responsible?

 

[fourblankwalls]

think you are all wrong. I think that all furniture that is not antique has to have a fire label on it. If you sell it without that on then you have failed to meet the guidelines. You would be responsible. Obviously we are talking about material furniture and not metal or wood.