Entrepreneur Mark Pearson answers your questions!

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Mark joined the forums in 2005 and was a familiar face for many years. His first postmakes for interesting reading given his recent activities!

Mark was also recently interviewed over on Growthbusiness.co.uk and specifically mentions UK Business Forums as a contributing factor to his success.

Check out the following video where BusinessZone editor @@Dan Martin asks a selection of questions picked from the forum.​


I've also extracted some of the answers Mark has given into text form below: (Thanks for the feedback everyone who requested this)


If you want to hear Mark share his story in person, buy a ticket to The Pitch 2014 Final on 23 October. It's only £10 and includes food and drink plus lots more entrepreneurial inspiration, business workshops, live pitches and more!
 
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@DazRave asked: Perhaps one question would be to ask him how well the doggy vending machine and printed petal ideas did in the end?

@MarkPearson: “I started off the business 7 years ago, started it in my bedroom. I had £300 to outsource the idea. [pauses] Wow, doggie vending machine!? Wow!I forgot all about that! I might do that one actually!

I believe that I once asked the question on the forums "Has anyone got a business idea that I could do?". I feel a little bit naive about that looking back so it's interesting. No-ones gonna go, oh yeah here you go Mark, [a business idea] on a plate, you can build it you can launch it. But, I was young, I was looking for opportunity

The printed petal business, I actually did launch and it was my first online business. The history goes something along the lines of, I moved down to London when I was 18 got a job in Claridge's as a chef.

I worked there a little while, then left and worked at a little start up in south London I got offered an opportunity from someone else who had their own pubs and I ended up running my own restaurants at the age of 21-22 and I ended up with 3 little restaurants in South London in Clapham. So I was making money as a businessman but I struggled to scale those businesses when it was a part time job for the waiters and waitresses and chefs. It was very hard to run these 3 different venues and I came to a crunch point where I was struggling to scale it, the chef wouldn’t turn up, the waitress wouldn’t turn up and the business would have to close, the venue would close and it was very frustrating.

I think one of the things that I ended up doing was actually thinking how do I scale? I've got the energy, I've got the passion, I've got the drive. I want to be successful and I want to scale and for me the answer was 'The Internet'.

So the first idea that I picked from all those ideas, maybe, thank God I picked that one and not others! I picked the roses and actually, the business was called ‘Roses by Design’.

It was a small retail business we outsourced it using platforms such as freelancer. I remember an Australian lady built it for me for around $600 she built the retail website from end to end, took the product pictures, everything.

The bravest decision I made was I think that the product was $3000 when I bought it from China so there was no such thing as Ali Baba, well, there probably was but it was no where as big as it is today. So I essentially outreached to some website supplier that I found online I think I emailed them, I didn't even speak to them.

They sent me their details, I wired some money over to them. I was waiting patiently for them for my package to arrive, which was my petal laser printer. [Eventually] it did arrive, I had the website, I had the product and I was in business.

I did grow that business and literally I was a one man machine of; producing the product, marketing the product, running the site, being the customer service, running the product down daily to the post office!

It wasn't that big a business, just a small business but what it was valuable for in a stepping journey was for me understanding different areas of marketing so I knew the product and the online marketing taught me a real hands on approach.

I was doing SEO, I was doing paid search, I was dabbling in social media, I built an email list email user base, I started dabbling in affiliate marketing. So I then launched an affiliate programme for retailers; I was dabbling in coupon codes, voucher codes - which funnily enough was what got us to where we are today! So there's a story that happened essentially.

That business was doing well, I discovered a whole new area of business, which was affiliate marketing. From that business I realised that a good place to be, a good place to scale that business was to be a publisher. Where at first I was being the retailer of the product, and remember it was a fresh product - flowers? how long do they last?"! (shelf life, wastage etc) I realised that I was in a very seasonal business which was really challenging.

Valentine's day, massive orders. Mothers day, massive orders. The rest of the year, not so busy. It was hard to grow and shrink like that, so what i ended up doing simply, was dabbling, literally dabbling in the publishing side. I spotted an opportunity in America, Coupons were massive in America. There were websites dedicated to coupons. I looked round and literally no one was doing it in the UK.

I launched a pretty basic proposition called ‘My Voucher Codes’ in 2006 it caught on quite quickly, I launched it in November, Christmas it got viral. I initially promoted it to my flower customers saying, "here you go, all these discounts for you to save money online" they did really well, and could scale really well, and quickly. It was making more money and actually a bigger margin that my flowers business - so the flower business very quietly disappeared as I put more and more energy into the voucher business.”
 
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@SamStones asked, “What would you say was the single biggest mistake you made?

@MarkPearson: "I won't call this a mistake, but in the early years of the business there was an opportunity for me to take VC money. So essentially I had a big VC a the table ready to offer me double digit millions investment to scale the business internationally and I ended up growing the business organically and I was literally the 100% shareholder of the business all the way to the sale.

So that's valuable, but at the same time the sector got very competitive we had big players in America I think one of the competitors had 300 million dollars investment.

One of my competitors got acquired by Vodafone and got hundreds of millions of users. In the early days of my business, could my business have been bigger today by me taking the VC money and maybe me going on an acquisition spree myself?

Maybe. It's not a big regret, it's just that you look back thinking 'what it?' Because actually one of our US competitors is worth a billion dollars today. So, I'm worth 55, I'm happy with my result, but you know, what could have been.

It's not necessarily regret, but you can always look back and see if you could have done things differently. My skillset, I'm a bit of a visionary, I like to look at the opportunities, where the business opportunities lie. I love product, I put my heart and soul into building a product and perfecting a product.

I am the marketing machine, that's where my skillsets lie. I'm not very technical, In the scale of what I'm good and bad at - I'm really bad at all things finance.

So you can give me a spreadsheet, show me the results of the business and I can get it 'top level'. Currently I'm in the position where I hire people to give me an overview but it's always been a real weak point for me. I wasn't very academic in school, if it wasn't for a calculator or a spellchecker we probably wouldn't have even made this call today because I wouldn't have known when it was or where it was! But I believe I put my skills in the area where I do best.

So finance wise, that's never been a strong area for me, very early on I took on an accountancy company who helped me deal with that so essentially I just ran the business and made it happen. I paid what needed to be paid, but, it quickly needed to be managed by someone professionally so ever since it's been managed for me. But I keep a close eye on the P& L and top level numbers to know where I should focus the business and that's how I've scaled it."
 
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@nzt48 asks, What business would you go in to if you were just starting out now? Or to go one further, does you plan to start another new business with your millions?

@MarkPearson: “It kind of interests me I kind of can, I'm in that position again. Now vs the very beginning I think I wake up every morning excited at the opportunity of the internet and mobile. And even since I've started the business in 2006 it's grown so much more, it's so much easier now to get international business.

Literally, I wake up buzzing everyday at the opportunity. I just haven't got enough time to do everything

What business would I do? An online mobile business? Pretty cheap to start, you know I outsourced, an idea a few hundred pounds there's not many people that can't afford that as a starting point. Even if you haven't got the money, there's friends and family, there's loans there's crowdfunding nowadays.

If you've got an idea I'd literally go for it!

What sector would I go in? I think that it would be online and mobile definitely. Jump in feet first. I tend to see people that have lots of ideas, it's [about] homing in on one.

Even today I'll sit down and assess several ideas and look at the value. It depends on what you want out of it. You've got to look at competition, you've got to look at viability, how much is it going to cost to launch etc etc.

Choose the one that feels right for you, choose the one that's achievable vs the one that's maybe next to impossible! Because I love the fact that people might think massive about a massive opportunity and let's reach for the stars. But if you think that you might risk and stumble and fail - where does that leave you? It might leave you in a worse position that when you started.

But actually, I've managed to be successful by taking a step by step approach kind of looking at it as a ladder. We talked about the restaurant business around when I was 20. It was more Gastro- pub and I ran the kitchen, it was a cash business, but it wasn't making lots of money but that led me on to the opportunity to have enough money to start my first online business which was the petal business.

It didn't cost much money, a couple of thousand pounds to start. It made tens of thousands of pounds. That led me on to this business which turned into millions of pounds of turnover.So it doesn't really matter what business you do, don't look at it as an end.”
 
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And finally, @MarkPearson on UKBusinessForums.co.uk;

"I always say in every interview and anyone who I speak to, UK Business Forums was so important early on and it ended up getting to a point where I would use it as my right hand man.

I would literally ask questions, it's a crowd source of information, you write a question, and there's so many valuable people there with lots of experience who are actually willing to share and help which is really important because if everyone was selfish then noone would help eachother!

A community like that is really valuable so specifically, I've still got my accountants that I found there I have found a PR company there, I found stationary. When I was looking for services and looking for advice I would trawl through previous post and see 'Where can I find this answer'.

You've seen the history yourself, it's all there. It was all really valuable to me. Where would I have found that information otherwise. It's a big thankyou, and it's a great place for start-out entrepreneurs. And not necessarily just start-out, as you evolve your business there's always questions.

I've got this philosophy over the years where as long as you win more times than you lose I think you're going to be successful, and actually, "win" in my sense is making sure that you've made the right decision - making sure that you get the right partner or service in place because if you've got all those headaches you're not going to move forward and be successful."
 
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    I'll be honest, the biggest thing he said that got my attention, was the fact that he wasn't very bright at school.

    The reason that this struck a chord with me was that I was the complete opposite. I went to a decent school and was the brightest kid in the school (with little effort). For years I coasted along thinking that being more intelligent than those around me was enough to succeed. It took me years to realise that unless I got off my backside and actually proved myself I wouldn't get anywhere.

    Being clever means nothing without hard work.
     
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    @Jason Harper it's interesting to see Mark talk in a video because you really do get that sense of tenaciousness. It strikes me that he isn't afraid to fail and will just keep progressing relentlessly until the right business idea sticks, slowly scaling, never settling for average.

    I myself share some of the academic experience @AllUpHere had. Coasted is a very accurate word. All the way until uni when I realised that someone wasn't just going to pluck you out from the graduate pool, take the time to understand your strengths and help you out. Naive, but incredibly typical of a lot of people who left uni at the same time.
     
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    Please can one of you help? I'm currently working with the Newcastle United Foundation to develop them a PR strategy for my final year undergraduate project at university. I need to research into their target audience which is business people/owners in the North East (core) as well as the wider North East community (secondary), to find out how they engage with charities and their use of social media. This is a new target audience to me so your help would be much appreciated. Please can one of you post my survey link as a thread? I understand that i'm not allowed to post a link until I have done 30 threads, but I don't know any other mediums to reach the target audience who may be willing to offer assistance. If you can't do this then please can you offer some advice on how I can get survey responses? Many thanks, Mel Gannaway
     
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    @Jason Harper it's interesting to see Mark talk in a video because you really do get that sense of tenaciousness. It strikes me that he isn't afraid to fail and will just keep progressing relentlessly until the right business idea sticks, slowly scaling, never settling for average.

    I myself share some of the academic experience @AllUpHere had. Coasted is a very accurate word. All the way until uni when I realised that someone wasn't just going to pluck you out from the graduate pool, take the time to understand your strengths and help you out. Naive, but incredibly typical of a lot of people who left uni at the same time.

    And i think to be honest this hits it on the head. NEVER be afraid to start any business. Some people spend months over web design and business plans. Me personally i have run several businesses from training consultancies to IT repair. Now i am involved in online learning and mobile repairs. The latter being the youngest, but showing signs of more success. In my experience it is about meeting the right people, trading with the right people and finding that niche. Added to that easy and cheap assess to the right markets. Your laughing. Keep your investments and your risks as low as possible. Utilise what is there free to use. Invest time in marketing. Then spin that wheel see what happens
    It is better to have tried and failed then to live wondering if it could have worked.
    But i would also add,
    a) dont spread yourself too thinly
    b) know when to get out if its not working
     
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    He wouldn't take my money when he was very small. He had a very good idea and it seemed to be working. I think I advised him that he really didn't need it and he could grow organically. It is always the entrepreneur's dilemma when you could have all of something small or a smaller part of something much bigger. My advice normally is: at some point start taking money out to build up savings especially if your business is in new areas. Things can change and go bang in a flash as some new technology takes over. Don't waste it on the company car and all the fun stuff.The business's money is potentially your money.

    One that got away. But good luck to him anyway.
     
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