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Morning all, can anybody recommend the best company for registering a domain name? Also I would be looking for web hosting, I have heard its not allways best to have the same company do both! I would be grateful for any advice!
 

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I have heard its not allways best to have the same company do both! I would be grateful for any advice!
There's always a few bad apples which is what this advice is based on. If you choose a reputable company to handle both for you, it can make things a lot easier for you.

Please feel free to take a look at our domain names here:

http://www.posilan.com/internet-services/domain-names/

and hosting packages here:

http://www.posilan.com/internet-services/web-hosting/

Steve
 
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The best company for domain names is the cheapest but with the freedom to move your domain and change the nameservers. Some make you stay for 12 months, some 2 years and some extort a wad of money from you before you can move your domain while increasing their fees over time. Read the small print.

Yes it's best to have the freedom to change your hosting quickly so data one host domain another. Anyone can fallout with a domain and they are still a few that will do underhand things if you upset them.

You'll get plenty of named ideas here soon, base your choices on those with no strings and no attachment.
 
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GoDaddy for domains as you can always find discount codes online.
Godaddy is not bad for .com/net/org domain names but watch you catch the renewal in time to enter another discount voucher - their "standard" renewal prices are very much more than the "new registration" price you get with discount vouchers.

I'd also recommend you avoid any of the big US registrars for *.uk domain names - they are mainly geared up for the .com/net./.org domain domains and their control panels rarely are "real time" for them so changes often take 24-48 hours as they have to be actioned manually.

Steve
 
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Personally I would keep domain name registration and hosting quite separate.

(Ironically my company offers both to clients but it's not something I'd combine personally).

For a one-off domain 123-Reg is great and good value, but I could never recommend their hosting packages.

As someone else has mentioned, if it's for *.uk domain name then I'd use a UK based registrar if poss as oppossed to a US one.
 
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Namecheap are great for domains. GoDaddy are not bad for domains BUT I'm not a fan of them as a company, and would also steer clear of their hosting.
iPage are good for hosting, their customer support is poor though. Have also tried JustHost and InMotion, both are fine too.

Keep the domain and hosting separate!! This way, if you ever have a fallout with hosting company, you will not be trapped in and you have the freedom to move. If you register your domain with your web host, you might find yourself in a mess further down the line..
 
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    Keep the domain and hosting separate!! This way, if you ever have a fallout with hosting company, you will not be trapped in and you have the freedom to move. If you register your domain with your web host, you might find yourself in a mess further down the line..
    Common misconception. There is nothing to gain from separating the domain and hosting. For UK domains you can simply approach Nominet to access the domain or change the IPS tag. For non-UK domains you would go to the registrar.

    Note that there are actually very few ICANN registered registrars out there and the vast majority of domain sellers are actually agents or partners of the registrars.

    I blogged about this subject a few years ago now and although the prices may have changed the advice is still the same...
     
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    Common misconception. There is nothing to gain from separating the domain and hosting. For UK domains you can simply approach Nominet to access the domain or change the IPS tag. For non-UK domains you would go to the registrar.

    Note that there are actually very few ICANN registered registrars out there and the vast majority of domain sellers are actually agents or partners of the registrars.

    There are several benefits to keeping domain and hosting separate. Firstly, unless your domain will always be free with your hosting package, you will most likely find a better price for the same domain elsewhere. Also, you have better control over your domain when you register it separately - and it's not always as simple as approaching Nominet if your web host decides to make things difficult for you. Don't put all your eggs into one basket.
     
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    Firstly, unless your domain will always be free with your hosting package, you will most likely find a better price for the same domain elsewhere.
    Dependent on the host and if they treat domain registration as a profit driver or an addon benefit.
    Also, you have better control over your domain when you register it separately
    Again dependent on the host and how they have set their systems up.
    and it's not always as simple as approaching Nominet if your web host decides to make things difficult for you. Don't put all your eggs into one basket.
    Actually it is. One call to Nominet and you gain access to your online account. From there you can update the name servers and/or change the IPS tag to another registrar. There is nothing the original host or tag holder can do about it.
     
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    it's not always as simple as approaching Nominet if your web host decides to make things difficult for you.
    It is if it's a *.uk domain name.

    But again, why are you only suspicious of web hosts? If a domain registrar gets awkward, you are still in the same situation.

    If a customer buys a domain and hosting form us, we can give them a complete service - we are not reliant on any third party and can help them with all elements of service.

    Steve
     
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    ZedS

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    Yes domain registrars might also be awkward but very few times have I dealt with an issue regarding domains. However, my experience with web hosts haven't always been smooth sailing and I have had a few incidents where they insist on tying customers in. I understand your and openmind's points, but naturally as a web designer I have learnt to be extra conscious when dealing with service providers.
     
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    If I have an issue with my host then I would like a separate site to login and quickly change the site to a new host, if I have to go through Nominet then this is going to add to the time taken to do this....

    I just got a new client today who has this issue, the web host registered the domain and has gone bust, shutting down the servers and website, there site is now dead and we can't get access to the files etc, but luckily he has been able to get the domain access, but it's going to be a few days to get a new site up and running because there was never a backup of the site.
     
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    If I have an issue with my host then I would like a separate site to login and quickly change the site to a new host, if I have to go through Nominet then this is going to add to the time taken to do this....

    Hi Gareth,

    Not necessarily - if a customer registers a domain name via us, they can log into the registry web control panel and take full control of their domain name:

    For *.uk domains (Nominet) the access is here:

    https://secure.nominet.org.uk/auth/login.html

    For all other domains (.com/net/org etc):

    https://manage.opensrs.net/

    Obviously, normally a customer would use our control panel, which sorts out billing, name servers etc, but if a customer (for whatever reason) wants to bypass us, they can.

    Steve
     
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    2 simple rules in my book.

    You can of course register the .co.uk away from your host but you do not have too.

    Rule 1. Make sure YOU buy the domain name IN YOUR NAME

    Rule 2. Use YOUR email addy as the admin/technical contact. Not attached to the tld or host but one that is YOURS and you have permanent access to.

    Thats it.

    Owt goes wrong you can contact Nominet and take control...

    Sent from my GT-I9300 using UK Business Forums
     
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    Hi Gareth,

    Not necessarily - if a customer registers a domain name via us, they can log into the registry web control panel and take full control of their domain name:

    For *.uk domains (Nominet) the access is here:

    https://secure.nominet.org.uk/auth/login.html

    For all other domains (.com/net/org etc):

    https://manage.opensrs.net/

    Obviously, normally a customer would use our control panel, which sorts out billing, name servers etc, but if a customer (for whatever reason) wants to bypass us, they can.

    Steve

    yes.. but at a cost of £12, where as if the domain and hosting are separate, you can immediately point their name servers to someone else.

    why take the chance of extra costs and time when you can separate them from the get go and all can be sorted in minutes.

    after all, the majority of problems don't come from your domain provider, they come from a hosting provider ;) Ive never had a problem with a domain.. Ive had a few problems with hosting companies.

    keep them separate is what I say...
     
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    Optegris

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    This is one of those situations where we as hosts are always going to be battling to convince buyers that there isn't a problem with registering domains and hosting together. This is I believe caused by the 2p hosts and kids who let customers down. It's the same with providers that provide unlimited bandwidth or space...

    At the end of the day there is no technical reason to have the two separate. As long as you carry out due diligence on the host, why you wouldn't is beyond me as you are entrusting them with more than just a domain, then there simply isn't a problem...
     
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    If a customer buys a domain and hosting form us, we can give them a complete service - we are not reliant on any third party and can help them with all elements of service.
    You're reliant on the domain registrar, who in turn are reliant on the registry ...

    The advice for keeping them separate is often based around picking cheap fly-by-nights for the hosting, where you need to regularly start from scratch with another cheap fbn because they went t1tsup.com and vanished

    My opinion, is dont pick the host based on price and you wont need to move every 3 months to a new one :p
     
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