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british steve
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I recomend you register and keep your domains names seperate from any hosting company you plan to use in the future - not sure why but hosting companies have a nasty habit of trying to screw people when they try and move! I know this from experience.
1&1 really are crap for anything - I hate 1&1
1&1 really are crap for anything - I hate 1&1
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Faevilangel
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That is what I always recommend to clients (but some ignore it). If your host goes bust for suffers long downtime, if you have the domain hosted elsewhere you can quickly change the nameservers and get your site online with another host within 2 days.
I have used them for a clients domain, and the domain part is fine, just talking to the CS is a right royal pain. Their hosting is also trash so don't recommend them for hosting but for domains, they are more than adequate.
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I know I'm biased but I don't follow the 'keep hosting and domain separate' theory - if you don't trust company X with even your domain, why trust them with your entire website, and vice versa?
99% of all domain problems can be resolved by going to the top-level registrar (eg Nominet for .uk domains) anyway and a decent host will have an online panel where you can update nameserver settings regardless of hosting status. The other 1% are nasty situations with an AWOL web developer who's put the domain in his name though sometimes those can be resolved too.
The key is simply to do research and pick a good supplier, as with anything.
Certainly I'd choose my company over Large Company X because when something goes wrong I know I could call us (myself?) up and get through to someone....whereas with Large Company X, you have zero chance.
Been there, done that...the number of times we've waited hours or days for Large Company XYZ to fix a simple domain transfer for an incoming client could fill a very boring book. We complained to Nominet about one such company (our account manager is great) and strangely they had their transfer function working within 24 hours!
99% of all domain problems can be resolved by going to the top-level registrar (eg Nominet for .uk domains) anyway and a decent host will have an online panel where you can update nameserver settings regardless of hosting status. The other 1% are nasty situations with an AWOL web developer who's put the domain in his name though sometimes those can be resolved too.
The key is simply to do research and pick a good supplier, as with anything.
Certainly I'd choose my company over Large Company X because when something goes wrong I know I could call us (myself?) up and get through to someone....whereas with Large Company X, you have zero chance.
Been there, done that...the number of times we've waited hours or days for Large Company XYZ to fix a simple domain transfer for an incoming client could fill a very boring book. We complained to Nominet about one such company (our account manager is great) and strangely they had their transfer function working within 24 hours!
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british steve
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You only trust your hosting company until they let you down, which is normally only a matter of time. I have used several webhosts over the years - one of which was recommended on this site - they were rubbish. My site was up and down like a tarts knickers - they caused me so many problems and cost me custom. I let them keep the domain name I registered with them as by then it was better to change the site name.
The only person who will tell you its OK to have your registered domains and hosting with the same company is a person who owns a hosting company !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Avoid 1&1, they are crap!
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But if they're a decent company, the domain and hosting are entirely separate. From our control panel (and the control panel of many hosts) you can set nameservers on a domain whenever and however you like, and it should never be any other way.
The company (be they a host, registrar, web developer) should also use a good top-level registrar such as Enom or Opensrs who are always helpful with issues (we've transferred a load of domains from various bust registrar clients of theirs), and be a direct Nominet member.
They should also register things in your name fully at all times.
Think those are all the general rules offhand!
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As a fellow Nominet member I agree with Dominic.
Whilst the general advice is to keep your domain name separate from your web hosting it's worth asking yourself why?
If you're rightfully worried you could lose your domain name, for .co.uk domain names you just need to make sure the domain name company is a Nominet member as this will give you the protection you need.
In many cases you'll find the domain name registrar is owned by the same web host.
For example 1&1, Fasthosts, Streamline and UKreg are all owned by the same German company.
^RM.
Whilst the general advice is to keep your domain name separate from your web hosting it's worth asking yourself why?
If you're rightfully worried you could lose your domain name, for .co.uk domain names you just need to make sure the domain name company is a Nominet member as this will give you the protection you need.
In many cases you'll find the domain name registrar is owned by the same web host.
For example 1&1, Fasthosts, Streamline and UKreg are all owned by the same German company.
^RM.
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MASSEY
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I can understand what Domonic is saying. I would happily have my domain and hosting with Domonics company.
A prime example of why i would not have the domain and hosting together is for example BT.
I had a domain and hosting with BT it was all going fine no issues i thought great these will do. Until i started recieving payment reminders when i had already paid and then there is talking to the indian call center who are telling me everything should be fine when they have blocked you from accessing your admin area , you know the usual situation you find yourself in when you use large companies they care less.
A prime example of why i would not have the domain and hosting together is for example BT.
I had a domain and hosting with BT it was all going fine no issues i thought great these will do. Until i started recieving payment reminders when i had already paid and then there is talking to the indian call center who are telling me everything should be fine when they have blocked you from accessing your admin area , you know the usual situation you find yourself in when you use large companies they care less.
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You won't lose your domain from *any* company which:
- Register it in your name
- Register it with a decent top-level registrar
And if it's a .uk domain, regardless of who regsiters it, as long as it's in *your name* you are the legal owner and Nominet are extremely helpful. You have access to Nominet's online panel too which is great and better than 90% of company's built-in systems.
You get into trouble nowadays when the domain isn't in your name, regardless of where you registered it, be they a designer, host, or registrar.
And yes some registrars have put domains in their name. A large company recently did, and stole ownership....so the domains were all in limbo....
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Yes. Over the few years I've been really impressed by how pro-active Nominet have been with improving their online systems.
Sadly, in this financial day and age, size of business really makes no difference as to whether it will be in business or in liquidation next week.
As long as the domain name company you choose adheres to the correct rules you should be fine.
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