Commercial Lease - Landlord's responsibilities around fixing building

Shaun234

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Hello All,

I have a beauty salon operating from a ground floor of a mixed use building (with a first floor residential long leaseholder) for the past 4 years. During the leasing process, the property had leaks and it was pointed out to the agent and it was fixed (in hindsight temporarily). I had asked our solicitor to put something in our lease and our solicitor said we were adequately covered for such future problems as it was the responsibility of the landlord to fix it. What I didn't realise was the landlord would fix it using insurance which I would be paying (with the long leaseholder).

Over the past 3 years, there were few leaks from the same location as before and some new locations. The landlord would always let both the leaseholders to sort out between ourselves often citing higher insurance premium should we use the insurance.

Fast forward to now, I had a major leak in the main trading area of the shop with water was standing unnoticed thanks to the lockdown. This has totally ruined the flooring and plastering - rendering the place completely unusable, not to mention the health and safety aspects thank to the raised laminate boards.

I informed the landlord in the first week of Feb 2021 (while still managed to pay someone to unblock standing water from first floor which was dripping in, paid to clean the salon etc. from my pocket). As usual the landlord wanted me and the leaseholder to manage it between us. However this time around, the bill would be hefty and I insisted on using the insurance. That's when the landlord started singing different tones i.e. wanted me to get multiple quotes, photos, videos etc. It all looked like delaying tactics to me and finally once she called me to say (which she never does) that we should report different dates (later obviously) if the insurance folks called us. At this point, I had a strong feeling that the landlord had been simply pocketing our money and never bought any insurances. Also I remembered the quotes she used to share with agents suspiciously sharing her family names. Finally, the landlord seemed to be very interested to get it fixed but then I realised she was trying to literally fix the whole building, all the bells and whistles on the same insurance claim - despite the fact that those issues even remotely concern my problems. And then she went just quiet about the whole thing. My theory is, the insurance claim was either turned down or she is waiting out the cooling-off period, I would never know.

Now the trouble is, she hasn't fixed the problems yet and the roofers and builders from who I had got the quotes have confirmed they don't have any dates in the next few weeks - basically leaving me high and dry : because I can't open my salon on Apr 12th, when I am finally allowed to open my business legally after months of lockdown.

Needless to say, I am literally on the verge of going broke due the extended no-business period and having to still pay most bills with some employees on furlough (the landlord, while agreeing to delay the rent payments, still wants all the rents retrospectively), so it is important for me to open my business as soon as I can. I am unable to seek legal advice as few of the solicitors I called are quoting close to £500 for reading the lease and 1 hour of consultation - which I can't afford at this point.

The stress and anxiety apart, I would like to know the following-
  1. What are my options if the landlord does not fix the place in time for opening? It is a typical full repair lease with some clauses which says something like "the landlord has the obligation to fix the place within reasonable timeframe" using insurance etc. What if she does not fix? It appears I can stop paying the rent until she fixes the place by the looks of it.. however what about my loss of business?
  2. Can I demand to see the actual insurance policies that the Landlord, purportedly bought over the years? Calling the insurance companies is not helping as they are not willing to divulge any info due to data protection. I would love to get some of that money back as it was close to £1000 a year for the past 3 years.
Any help/advice would be massively appreciated. I know, i might not be able to get any legal advice but would love to hear your perspectives so I can atleast see if I can invest this £500 with a solicitor for what its worth.

Thanks in advance.

-Sh
 
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    Hi @Shaun234

    Sorry to hear your story.

    Have you got your own insurance policy for the salon business?

    If so you may find it has a Business Interruption Section. Where there is damage to the salon that causes you to be unable to trade, or lose business, this section of cover will usually pay for your loss of revenue until its fixed.

    If you have this cover, talk to your own insurer straight away. It is in their interest to get the problem with the water damage sorted sooner (to reduce how much they pay you for loss of revenue) and they may therefore provide support/costs in pushing your landlord to get things sorted sooner!

    With regards to evidence of insurance from the landlord, it would be reasonable for them to provide evidence on request. However, from leases I have seen, the lease only states the landlord must arrange the insurance - it doesn't specifically state they must evidence it to leaseholders! No harm in asking them for it and see what happens!


    Good luck.

    Frank
     
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    Jass T

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    Read your lease regarding what it says about.

    1) Insurance cover, who is responsible for what. Usually the landlord purchases the insurance and the tenant pays for it.
    I usually allow my tenants to spread this over 12 months. It shows as seperate from the rent on statements and receipts.
    Are you aware of paying seperatly for it..
    I also send the tenant a copy of the policy, did your landlord provide that.

    2) Read particularly anything regarding landlords responsibility to ensure building is maintained in a good safe condition etc.

    In essence you need to read the lease and see if you have a case against the landlord. Morally it seems you do. But legally it depends on the lease.
    If you feel the landlord has not been insuring the building, you have been paying for. Is now trying a fraudulent claim. You have a strong case.
    The solicitor fee would be worth it. Or you could ask the landlord to fix your shop, write of a period of rent to compensate you, otherwise you will be taking action. If she is guilty as you suspect, she may accept.
    Good luck.
     
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    jason73412

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    Hi @Shaun234

    Sorry to hear your story.

    Have you got your own insurance policy for the salon business?

    If so you may find it has a Business Interruption Section. Where there is damage to the salon that causes you to be unable to trade, or lose business, this section of cover will usually pay for your loss of revenue until its fixed.

    If you have this cover, talk to your own insurer straight away. It is in their interest to get the problem with the water damage sorted sooner (to reduce how much they pay you for loss of revenue) and they may therefore provide support/costs in pushing your landlord to get things sorted sooner!

    With regards to evidence of insurance from the landlord, it would be reasonable for them to provide evidence on request. However, from leases I have seen, the lease only states the landlord must arrange the insurance - it doesn't specifically state they must evidence it to leaseholders! No harm in asking them for it and see what happens!


    Good luck.

    Frank

    Thank you Frank. I do have an insurance for the salon business and I will get in touch with them. Have also requested the landlord for policy documents.. hopefully I will get it. Thanks again for the views.
     
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    jason73412

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    Read your lease regarding what it says about.

    1) Insurance cover, who is responsible for what. Usually the landlord purchases the insurance and the tenant pays for it.
    I usually allow my tenants to spread this over 12 months. It shows as seperate from the rent on statements and receipts.
    Are you aware of paying seperatly for it..
    I also send the tenant a copy of the policy, did your landlord provide that.

    2) Read particularly anything regarding landlords responsibility to ensure building is maintained in a good safe condition etc.

    In essence you need to read the lease and see if you have a case against the landlord. Morally it seems you do. But legally it depends on the lease.
    If you feel the landlord has not been insuring the building, you have been paying for. Is now trying a fraudulent claim. You have a strong case.
    The solicitor fee would be worth it. Or you could ask the landlord to fix your shop, write of a period of rent to compensate you, otherwise you will be taking action. If she is guilty as you suspect, she may accept.
    Good luck.

    Hi @Jass T - Thanks for your help. Reg. 1, the lease is clear that landlord buys the insurance and the tenant is expected to pay a "fair proportion" of the cost. The landlord is currently passing on the total cost of the insurance to the leaseholders (50% split).

    Reg. 2, it again appears that landlord is responsible for fixing external damages using the insurance (although it doesn't tell much about interior damages due to the external damages - presume it would be covered too).. on this basis I might seek legal advice.. Thanks again for the help.

    Thanks
    Sh
     
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    Frank the Insurance guy

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    (although it doesn't tell much about interior damages due to the external damages - presume it would be covered too)

    The landlords buildings insurance will usually cover the whole building including internal structures (walls/ceilings etc) and any permanent fixtures that were present prior to commencement of the lease.

    Any other internals - Fittings etc that the salon business has put in/paid for is the salons responsibility, not the landlords. The salons insurance should cover the salons fitting and other internals the salon has put it since start of the lease.
     
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