Commercial landlord - IEE Certificate (electrical/wiring), is this law?

[*Lexxy*]

would a commercial landlord have to provide a tenant with evidence that they've got a valid/current IEE test certificate for the premises?

no idea if our landlord has had the wiring/system tested & our insurers are asking if there is one...(i've requested the info from our l/l, but no reply as yet).

thanks

 

[*Lexxy*]

bump

my landlord appears to have gone into "she's asking another awkward question, ignore her" mode...

so anyone else?

 

[Gordonmacg]

As far as I am aware it is the person occupying the premises that is responsible for ensuring that the wiring is safe…… something to do with 'elf n safety!

It is written in the terms of my lease that I test every 3-5 years as required and provide the required certification.

The requirements for periodic testing of the electrical wiring of commercial premises comes under the 1989 Electricity at Work Act.

I found some useful info' here

http://www.electrotestservices.co.uk/fixedwiring.php?menu=fixed.html

Hope this is of some help.

G

 

[MASSEY]

You should be able to tell, if you have been there ages then any documentation will be out of regulations by now, if you have recently moved in then it should all be to regs and tested if they have not been then the onus is on them to sort it out, but if you have been there for a while you will more than lightly foot the bill for it.

 

[*Lexxy*]

hmmm, we know the electrics within our Unit are up to spec & all tested as we had it all re-wired before we moved in. from what our insurer was saying, this certificate specifically applies to the supply into our Unit (& others), i.e. the supply to the whole estate.

 

[Thermostat]

In a Domestic dwelling, the NIEC certificate issued (governed mainly by the current IEE regulations) covers the wiring from the consumer unit and includes the tails from the meter to the consumer unit. The supply into the dwelling via the incoming fuse tails and meter are covered by the supply authority.I would query the requirement with the insurer.

 

[Thermostat]

Lexxy
A block of flats is classed as a dwelling, so if you are in a block of flats your supply is subbed off the main incoming supply. In that case that is down to your Landlord

 

[*Lexxy*]

nope, this is commercial business units i'm referring to

 

[Thermostat]

If your supply is not subbed off another supply - -in my opinion (30years in electrical distribution) your insurers have got it wrong. Have the insurers looked at your premises? - if not ask them to.

 

[*Lexxy*]

subbed off another supply? i won't hazard a guess at an answer, as i really don't know! insurers haven't requested to do a survey, yet.

i do know the supply to the Units comes from a sub-station type 'thing', it's in a lock-up on the site & by all accounts it looks like something out of frankensteins lab it looks so old! (hubby's description, not mine).

 

[Thermostat]

Arh..... UNITS. Is this a Business Centre or Individual Units
Think of a building 1000sq metres. You rent this building and pay your electric bill direct to the supply company. The electric cable feeding this building is the main circuit which feeds all your sockets, lights etc via the main fuse, meter and consumer unit.
Now a guy buys this building and wants to turn it into 4 individual 250 sq metre units
Each of these individual units needs an electrical supply.He strips out/ changes the original electrical installation into 4 installations. He gets his electrician to install a cable from his main circuit to each of the 4 units with their own separate meter, consumer unit. Each of these new main cables is called a sub-circuit. Its subbed off the main circuit via protected devices (fuses,MCB & isolators)
In this case the Landlord is responsible for the Sub-circuits

 

[*Lexxy*]

useful info Thermostat & i'd imagine this is how it 'should' be set up, but i'm not sure ours is!

these are a joined group of units, built probably about 100 years ago. i don't know how many meters there are, but we don't pay the bill direct, the landlord rebills us (when they remember).

i'm guessing this is similar to the preferred set up, so hopefully this does confirm that the landlord should be responsible for getting the main system tested & passed.

he still hasn't replied to my query from nearly a week ago now so have you got any ideas where i could take this further to try & find out? Health & safety exec perhaps?

thanks