Cloud based systems

[Chris Ashdown]

Now after the biggest wakeup to the vulnerability of relying on cloud based systems, how many are now looking to bring all their systems back inhouse and using a single computer for any necessary web based function, so whilst the two remain separate and enable work to continue

 

[johndon68]

Now after the biggest wakeup to the vulnerability of relying on cloud based systems

Are you talking about the Cloudstrike issue last week?

 

[fisicx]

how many are now looking to bring all their systems back inhouse

Almost none. The problem wasn’t using cloud based systems, it was a flawed tested tool used by Cloudstrike and affected less than 1% of all MS computers. It was a compliance requirement behind the need for installing cloudstrike, it just happened to affect some key networks.

 

[japancool]

Now after the biggest wakeup to the vulnerability of relying on cloud based systems, how many are now looking to bring all their systems back inhouse and using a single computer for any necessary web based function, so whilst the two remain separate and enable work to continue

Having your systems inhouse would not have made any major difference to the Cloudstrike problem.

 

[Chris Ashdown]

Almost none. The problem wasn’t using cloud based systems, it was a flawed tested tool used by Cloudstrike and affected less than 1% of all MS computers. It was a compliance requirement behind the need for installing cloudstrike, it just happened to affect some key networks.

Its not what caused it but rather the reliance on cloud based services that have the potential to severely damage your company. Just think if eBay or amazon went down for a long time also many smaller services Cad services are a obvious contender, can you trust them to be able to get back online in 1 day. Even the mighty Microsoft

 

[Ozzy]

how many are now looking to bring all their systems back inhouse

That’s a no from me. A little inconvenient compared to a lifetime of having to maintain and support on-premise kit, I’d take the rare inconvenience any day.
Side note, we were completely unaffected so didn’t suffer any inconvenience.

 

[fisicx]

Its not what caused it but rather the reliance on cloud based services that have the potential to severely damage your company.

You can't bring everything back in house. MS Office for example no longer has a standalone service.

 

[Chris Ashdown]

You can't bring everything back in house. MS Office for example no longer has a standalone service.

True but in your example Office is bloat wear for most businesses, and few software do not have standalone alternatives.Cloud is very convenient but there are alternatives to most software,

 

[DontAsk]

MS Office for example no longer has a standalone service.

Can you explain exactly what you mean by that?

I am running office (2021) locally with no cloud or web integration used. I don't need to upgrade.

 

[fisicx]

Can you explain exactly what you mean by that?

I am running office (2021) locally with no cloud or web integration used. I don't need to upgrade.

You are one of the lucky few. Almost all Office installations now require an internet connection and a MS email account.

 

[japancool]

You are one of the lucky few. Almost all Office installations now require an internet connection and a MS email account.

You don't need an MS email account. You need a Microsoft account, but that's not the same thing, although the latter can include email.

 

[DontAsk]

You don't need an MS email account. You need a Microsoft account, but that's not the same thing, although the latter can include email.

Yes, I have a Microsoft account and Office installed locally. It's only just over 12 mo since I installed and I'm not aware of any recent changes.

Not using OneDrive does lose Auto Save "has to be saved to the cloud first" and maybe others I don't use.

 

[fisicx]

Yes, I have a Microsoft account and Office installed locally. It's only just over 12 mo since I installed and I'm not aware of any recent changes.

Not using OneDrive does lose Auto Save "has to be saved to the cloud first" and maybe others I don't use.

As I said, you are one of the lucky ones. MS wants everyone to move to O365 or whatever it’s called now.

If you have anti-virus you are dependant on cloud services. If you buy or pay for anything online you are using cloud services. If you have a phone you are reliant on cloudy services.

If you have Windows installed you are reliant on cloudy things.

The days of doing anything standalone are long gone. Unless you are unplugged and not online for anything.

 

[WebDesires]

Its not what caused it but rather the reliance on cloud based services that have the potential to severely damage your company. Just think if eBay or amazon went down for a long time also many smaller services Cad services are a obvious contender, can you trust them to be able to get back online in 1 day. Even the mighty Microsoft

doesnt matter what you use, computers / disasters will happen no matter what. I agree that relying on big tech companies for hosting such as amazon is a major issue our world is facing right now since as you say if they go down, 90% of the internet is gone until they fix their issue.

But dont be disillusioned. Regardless. Issues will and do happen, just if everyone was using a wider variety of service providers, we as a whole would see less disruption. Ie. some service has an issue which affects a few services rather than half the internet.

Furthermore, having servers in house gives you a bucket load of more issues and expense, you will have to setup redundacy for failures, what about if your ISP fails - building burns down, there is a power cut - etc etc.

 

[DontAsk]

As I said, you are one of the lucky ones. MS wants everyone to move to O365 or whatever it’s called now.

I don't believe I am special in any way

There's a difference between wanting and forcing. Office 2021 is still easily available

 

[antropy]

Relying on a big company that doesn't care about you e.g. Amazon/Ebay/PayPal is not a great idea in my view. All it takes is for them to change a policy and your business can be gone over night.

Cloudstrike didn't affect us in the slightest because most of our systems are self-hosted and open source.

Paul.

 

[DontAsk]

And then it was Azure. What will be next?

 

[Ivanzyt]

Cloud based systems are more secure than the vast majority of in-house systems. Unless you are a mega corp who employs lots of top notch security consultants to look after your in-house systems it's very unlikely they will be as secure or as robust as cloud-based. And then there are all the other risks associated with having in house systems! Physical security, accidental damage, power cuts, etc etc. For the vast majority of SME's in-house IT systems are a far more risky proposition.