Car Crash

[FirstClassVirtualOffice]

If the underground car park wall and posts (i'm presuming these "posts" are in fact what's holding up the ceiling if they are concrete??) were left in their naturual state/colour of grey concrete, then surely you still could apply the same "camouflage" logic and so a claim would fail because you could still differentiate between a grey concrete wall and a grey concrete post like most other underground car parks have. So what i'm saying here is that if the wall and post had never been painted, just left as grey concrete, you never would have thought you could put in a claim because they were the same colour.

 

[Bazza500]

This thread is just a load of bollards!

 

[arcon5]

I wonder if the car park owner could sue you if you've damaged their property or they have to instruct a surveyor to ensure no structural damage was caused since you've reversed in to a stationary object.

 

[Scott-Copywriter]

I wonder if the car park owner could sue you if you've damaged their property or they have to instruct a surveyor to ensure no structural damage was caused since you've reversed in to a stationary object.

This is a very good point.

I think attempting to sue the car park may backfire on you. I would suggest that this is something a defending solicitor is highly likely to bring up.

 

[Swisaw]

the wall behind me was painted orange and the post was painted the same colour.

Concrete background doesn't reflect light. You can see every points clearly. But orange background reflects light. So the whole area becomes visible as one flat area. Pillars of the same colour disappear easily against the main background. He can go back to the car park to take pictures the way he saw the back ground when he was reversing or he can take his car to the same position to take pictures from mirrors.

 

[David Griffiths]

Concrete background doesn't reflect light.

If it didn't reflect light, it would be black.

 

[guest_12]

People here are getting hung up on the colour of the pillar but just remember;

The pillar was there when the driver pulled into the space and they should of noticed it getting in and out of the car plus they also know people who have hit the pillar before....

They clearly arent that observant hence the crash.

This is down to bad driving no other excuses.

 

[Swisaw]

If it didn't reflect light, it would be black.

True, but the surface of concrete is not smooth. Because of that the light doesn't reflect uniformly. This makes every thing visible and distinguishable. But a painted area is smooth, which causes light to reflect uniformly. This distorts your perception, it makes every thing infront of you as one flat surface area.

 

[dynamic08]

I was looking in rear view mirror and did not see this great big concrete post. I dont reverse without looking. It was invisible hence the reason I hit it.

 

[dynamic08]

it is also the first time I have ever reversed in to anything. BECAUSE the bleeding thing was camouflaged!

god help any people in army clothes they are getting run over!

 

[SuffolkDesigns]

It was invisible hence the reason I hit it.

I wouldn't use that as a reason if you do decide to make a claim

 

[roydmoorian]

How much damage was caused and what is the cost to rectify it ?

More or less than your Insurance Excess ?

 

[Bfd/Paul]

I was looking in rear view mirror and did not see this great big concrete post. It was invisible hence the reason I hit it.

Sorry dynamic08, but that last line sounded like one of Jasper Carrots insurance claim anecdotes off Canned Carrot. Hope your damage aint too bad and just put it down to experience etc.

Ps how did you know if it was big if you could not see it?

 

[JMaddox]

Sorry but this looks like a battle that's not worth fighting mate..

 

[Swisaw]

Sorry dynamic08, but that last line sounded like one of Jasper Carrots insurance claim anecdotes off Canned Carrot. Hope your damage aint too bad and just put it down to experience etc.

Ps how did you know if it was big if you could not see it?

That is trade secret. He can not disclose it to you.

 

[Bobadob]

This is a hilarious set of posts, thanks for the entertainment.
You must be kidding. You want to sue the car park for your careless driving. What is the world coming to. People make a mistake and then immediately want to sue someone. Has the world gone mad?
This attitude drives me potty. We are humans and all make errors, it is part of being human, so when we make an error, then hold your hands up, dont try to blame someone else and get money from them for your own mistake.

 

[Scott-Copywriter]

This is a hilarious set of posts, thanks for the entertainment.
You must be kidding. You want to sue the car park for your careless driving. What is the world coming to. People make a mistake and then immediately want to sue someone. Has the world gone mad?
This attitude drives me potty. We are humans and all make errors, it is part of being human, so when we make an error, then hold your hands up, dont try to blame someone else and get money from them for your own mistake.

This whole thread reminds me of that recent story about the police woman who went to investigate a break-in at a shop, tripped on a curb as she tried to enter through the back and then attempted to sue the shop owner for personal injury.

 

[Root 66 Woodshop]

Hmm are you totally sure that it was definitely a bollard that you hit?

Could it have been the wall?

Personally I'd be grateful that it wasn't anything like this...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ards-just-millimetres-wider-standard-car.html

 

[dynamic08]

Wont bother risking my no claims. Its not major damage but would mean new bumper and a spray.

My neck is feeling iffy though hahaha

 

[billie1]

My suggestion to the OP would be to visit your local citizens advice bureau, there may well be a case. Obviously there is a chance you may not win, but there is also a chance you may win. Unless you don't try you won't know.

Maybe in a few months time you can come back to this thread to let us know the outcome.

 

[Moneyman]

Since most car parks are grey against grey. The colour clash would hardly be something new.
my old bank where I workedonce put purple bins on a purple carpet in lowlight conditions. We would have had lots of fun if no pain no gain suing worked in those days.

 

One can only assume the OP's car park designer was colour blind as in 57 years of driving I can not recall having seen 1 bollard that was the same colour as its background.

If anyone can show me an example I would be most interested.

In the meantime this is a range of normal bollard colours.


https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=i...=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&tbm=isch&imgdii=_

 

[David Griffiths]

as in 57 years of driving I can not recall having seen 1 bollard that was the same colour as its background.https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=i...=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&tbm=isch&imgdii=_

Does that mean that you've never seen one, or that you just can't remember?

 

Does that mean that you've never seen one, or that you just can't remember?

I take it you have no evidence of one then.

On the other hand they may have been there ,you just could not see them.

Pretty sure the OP would win his case on the grounds of bad design.

 

[Fred_the_frog]

I take it you have no evidence of one then.

Why would he have evidence?

"OMG look a bollard the same colour as the background. I must photograph this in case I have to prove I saw it!"

 

[figurewizard]

I'm not too sure about a claim succeeding that based upon you driving into an inanimate object.

 

[HGSecurity]

My advice to the OP, FWIW (in no particular order)

1. Grow a pair
2. Visit Specsavers
3. Park somewhere with more room
4. Check to see what is around your car before you move it
5. Stop blaming inanimate objects for your crap driving


HTH

 

Why would he have evidence?

"OMG look a bollard the same colour as the background. I must photograph this in case I have to prove I saw it!"

Well one suspects any car park owner with half a brain would want any bollards installed to be highly visable,as one does not expect they would relish the idea of replacing them every week.

Hence why in the main bollards are manufactured in high visibility colours.

P.S what about all them people who don't see potholes and end up suing the council.

And they are in front of them.

 

[roydmoorian]

Well one suspects any car park owner with half a brain would want any bollards installed to be highly visable,as one does not expect they would relish the idea of replacing them every week.

Hence why in the main bollards are manufactured in high visibility colours.

P.S what about all them people who don't see potholes and end up suing the council.

And they are in front of them.

"bang I hit a rather large concrete post"

Probably one of the main structural pillars and not a bollard :|

 

[200host_Steve]

This thread is bad luck..

I just reversed into a street sign...

Now where is my lawyers phone number.

Also any one want a slightly dented BMW

 

[Swisaw]

This thread is bad luck..

I just reversed into a street sign...

Now where is my lawyers phone number.

Also any one want a slightly dented BMW

I can dispose it for you free of charge.

 

[groovyjon]

I really think Dynamic needs to go back to the car park (on foot preferably), take a photo of the bollard and post it here so we can all see exactly what we're discussing. I'm intrigued by the notion of an invisible bollard...

 

[David Griffiths]

I really think Dynamic needs to go back to the car park (on foot preferably), take a photo of the bollard and post it here so we can all see exactly what we're discussing. I'm intrigued by the notion of an invisible bollard...

But it could be a picture of a painted wall without a bollard in front of it - who would know?

 

[Fred_the_frog]

This thread is bad luck..

I just reversed into a street sign...

Now where is my lawyers phone number.

Also any one want a slightly dented BMW

Could you see the street sign though?

If you couldn't then you have two claims- sue them for reversing into a sign you couldn't see then sue them again because you got lost because you couldn't see the sign.

 

[Mitch3473]

Why would he have evidence?

"OMG look a bollard the same colour as the background. I must photograph this in case I have to prove I saw it!"

Only concrete evidence would suffice in this case












Taxi...!!

 

[200host_Steve]

Could you see the street sign though?

If you couldn't then you have two claims- sue them for reversing into a sign you couldn't see then sue them again because you got lost because you couldn't see the sign.

You Sir are a genius...

m gunna be RICH

 

[Swisaw]

But it could be a picture of a painted wall without a bollard in front of it - who would know?

He can put some thing black for example infront of the bollard and another to the wall. This should clearly distinguish both in the picture.

 

[David Griffiths]

He can put some thing black for example infront of the bollard and another to the wall. This should clearly distinguish both in the picture.

Whooosh!

 

[owas]

I spoke to a friend who's s claim handler, and he says, theirs not much chance of making a successful claim in this case. At best if you go though the insurance company for any work that needs doing, your passenger could make a claim. His word not mine.

 

[HGSecurity]

Whooosh!

You forgot to say 'duck'