Can anyone recommend an SEO company?

[Minuteman Press]

A response from an SEO customer - I unreservedly recommend Clubnet - on here as zigojacko. Highly recommended.

Professional, honest, good communication and gets results.

Feel free to PM if you'd like specific info.

Best wishes

Peter

 

[keyexposure-web-marketing]

What do people think about pay-per-lead based SEO pricing structures?

 

[stephanielarry]

SEO optimizes the people are fairly well known because they have read the SEO blog, but I think it is Oxford Digital Marketing that we currently use.

 

[Lisa_newbie]

You may try one of these companies - webdesign.org/website-promotion.php or inverse-logic.com/quote.php. Worked for me in the past too

 

[shaunatsf]

I would strongly recommend Coppock Media, they are on here or you can google them. They worked wonders for us and are exceptionally well priced for what they do.

 

[Esk247]

Coppock Media get my vote too. I haven't used them myself but all I've heard is how good they are, many UKBF members have used them and they're members on here.

I tend to think of SEO as hiring a new member of staff (through an SEO company of course) they will need to be a part of your marketing team, they'll need to have knowledge of your business model and your products/target market.

For that, you'll have to pay a reasonable rate...everyones got to live and why shouldn't they be paid more than the minimum wage to increase your business 10 fold.

Lots of link building companies online, but lots of them just drag links from anywhere they can find them. To find 1000 links that are of use to your business takes effort and time.

 

[bdw]

They worked wonders for us and are exceptionally well priced for what they do.

Can you share with us specifically what they did for you?

 

[Muktistudios]

try to search on google .. this will help!


Thanks

 

[sardinian]

Can anyone recommend an SEO company?

I have a Joomla based website that has just been built. Site has been up for around 8 weeks but is not appearing on the search engines except for directly under its own URL. Site has only had about 100 unique visitors over 8 weeks.

You'll find quite a few possible suppliers out there. Of course, there are never any guaranteed positions and you should certainly never rely on a promises to generate sales or to make your site number 1 on google (run a mile if you hear that one). SEO takes time. For much faster, but expensive results, try PPC. I hope this helps. Good luck! S

 

[Davidbarter]

Can anyone recommend an SEO company?

I have a Joomla based website that has just been built. Site has been up for around 8 weeks but is not appearing on the search engines except for directly under its own URL. Site has only had about 100 unique visitors over 8 weeks.

I have heard about an SEO company based in united states by the name of Cyberdesignz. Find them in google...they may help you in your case.

 

[bdw]

SEO companies are responsible for improving the rank of your website on google search results.

Nobody asked that question and I think you may find that the OP already knew that but what the hell, it's another post on your count and another link dropped.

 

[bdw]

I have heard about an SEO company based in united states by the name of Cyberdesignz. Find them in google...they may help you in your case.

Based on what?

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[british steve]

Firstly I am amazed that this thread is still alive 6 months after I first posted, so here is an update.


The Problem
When I first posted this I was getting very little traffic to a Joomla based website that was built by someone on this forum for me. Turns out that the site was just badly built, I doubt the search engines would have ever found it!


I went on to rebuild the site myself with Wordpress with a little help from a couple of friends here on UKBF. The site is now storming up the search engine rankings thanks to Wordpress being so SEO friendly.


The good, the bad and the lying, thieving *******s
I have to be honest I was quite surprised at some of the offers I received from members of this forum, prices ranged from as little as £200 for a one off campaign up to £1000 per month. One person from UKBF contacted me and promised that he could make me No1 for all my search terms for the bargain price of £5k per month!, that’s £5k plus the VAT, I then went on to find out that that person was not only not registered for VAT but their own site listed so badly in the search engine rankings I eventually found there site on about page 35. When I told them to bugger of they then proceeded to email me with a list of sites they had built and SEO’d over the previous 12 months. When I contacted the site owners they told me they had never heard of this person!


The expensive mistake
Once the new Wordpress site was built I had a go with Adwords, turned out to be a total waste of money, I was exceptionally careful about the search terms I was paying for but each customer was costing me about £60 – completely unsustainable goodbye £1200.


The solution!
Using the Google Adwords keyword Tool I started looking at search terms connected to what we do. From that we went to register about 45 or so domains names costing around £250 (mixture of .com and .co.uk domains) as a result that site now gets over 13,000 mainly unique, targeted visitors per month and our sales have rocketed.


And that’s the update!

 

[keyexposure-web-marketing]

did you just have domain forwarding on or do anything special?

 

[trebor8]

The good, the bad and the lying, thieving *******s
I have to be honest I was quite surprised at some of the offers I received from members of this forum, prices ranged from as little as £200 for a one off campaign up to £1000 per month. One person from UKBF contacted me and promised that he could make me No1 for all my search terms for the bargain price of £5k per month!, that's £5k plus the VAT, I then went on to find out that that person was not only not registered for VAT but their own site listed so badly in the search engine rankings I eventually found there site on about page 35. When I told them to bugger of they then proceeded to email me with a list of sites they had built and SEO'd over the previous 12 months. When I contacted the site owners they told me they had never heard of this person!


I know how you feel. Sharks who talk a good fight.
One guy who took 4wks for a 3/4 day job told me he couldn't reply to my emails because he was havin his office re-decorated! and this from a regular on here!

Its really good to hear there is better and cheaper solutions without the need to be ripped off

 

[keyexposure-web-marketing]

I know how you feel. Sharks who talk a good fight.
One guy who took 4wks for a 3/4 day job told me he couldn't reply to my emails because he was havin his office re-decorated! and this from a regular on here!

name and shame in my opinion!

 

[Davidbarter]

Based on what?

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Providing SEO services at very reasonable price.

 

[Tom McClelland]

Firstly I am amazed that this thread is still alive 6 months after I first posted, so here is an update.

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I'd like to say that 12Pay has had great free advice and paid-for PPC and SEO consultancy from members of this site. Both methods work for us.

The PPC equation is simple. Is the cost of each new client gained via PPC greater or less than the net profit from that client. A PPC cost of £100/client doesn't matter if each new client gains you £200! Evidently if you're selling something with NP<£60 then paying £60/client is not a great idea. But can you be sure that your PPC campaign was efficiently set up? We had a reasonably effective self-maintained PPC campaign that we were happy with but engaging a PPC professional from UKBF led to a considerable increase in the number of sales conversions we were getting at lower total cost. The click-cost savings and greater conversions paid for the consultancy many times over.

On the SEO side we've had good work done for us by two UKBF members and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them, though the problem that we found was that the good people are very busy and you have to be prepared to wait.

 

[SneakSMS]

Coppock Media get my vote too

Seconded.

Had some great results from Coppock Media

 

[bdw]

One person from UKBF contacted me and promised that he could make me No1 for all my search terms for the bargain price of £5k per month!, that’s £5k plus the VAT, I then went on to find out that that person was not only not registered for VAT but their own site listed so badly in the search engine rankings I eventually found there site on about page 35.

There is a valuable lesson to be learned from this. The people who promote themselves and their services in here are just as likely to be charlatans as those you would find using other methods. A presence in the UKBF forums is not a guarantee of quality.

name and shame in my opinion!

I agree. If someone is using this forum to effectively defraud people we should know who it is.

 

[bdw]

From that we went to register about 45 or so domains names costing around £250 (mixture of .com and .co.uk domains) as a result that site now gets over 13,000 mainly unique, targeted visitors per month and our sales have rocketed.

Can you explain further what you mean by this?

 

[Tom McClelland]

Can you explain further what you mean by this?

I was bewildered by that too. How can registering a zillion unranked and unlinked domains help anything? They won't attract any traffic unless they themselves are SEO'd, will they? In which case the SEO effort used on them could have been employed on the real site.

 

[MASSEY]

Im guessing he means keyword domain names, but they are becoming rare, ones that get decent traffic anyway.

I think he is also spending about 250 a month on hosting this way :|

 

[british steve]

Can you explain further what you mean by this?

The domains I registered were keyword strong. Most of the domains just point to my main sites. Because they are based on actual search terms they rank quite well with most showing up and page 1, 2 or 3 of Google and Bing - almost sod all from Yahoo for some reason. While you would never register these domains to run a website from (some of the domains are 4, 5 and 6 words long) these are what people write in to Google to search. Based on what Google told me (when I used the keyword ckecker) some of the domains I registered are being searched for over 100,000 times per month although click through rates are no where near that!

This is sort of an example

Go to the Google adwords keyword tool

My hosting is less that £50 per month.

It cost me £250 to register the domains

Type in "business broadband"

When you do a domain name check you will find that "business broadband" is long gone - but then look down the list at what other search terms have been used, check to see if those search terms have been registered with one of the many domain registration companies- if not do what I did and register them!

Takes about 10 weeks for the domains to settle down on the first couple of pages of the search engines (most of the search terms I registered are on pages 1,2 and 3) but from there on......

This was the best thing I ever did and now I am in the process of doing it for all of my sites

 

[trebor8]

Makes an absolute mockery of SEO and googles own ramblings on quality of content

 

[Esk247]

Makes an absolute mockery of SEO and googles own ramblings on quality of content

This is why i sometimes feel myself pulling my hair out with the SEO side of things. I assumed that Google promoted quality links to the top of the search results pages but from what i've seen, websites that are entirely useless or nothing to do with the search terms are still ending up top of the pile just for the domain name.

Some search results delivered by Google are total nonsense, god knows why they're top of the pile when you're searching for something, the websites underneath them are of much better quality and substance.

 

[MASSEY]

This is why i sometimes feel myself pulling my hair out with the SEO side of things. I assumed that Google promoted quality links to the top of the search results pages but from what i've seen, websites that are entirely useless or nothing to do with the search terms are still ending up top of the pile just for the domain name.

You can outrank keyword domain names, it just takes a lot more effort than if you had the exact match to start with, but it can be done, anchor text backlinks.

 

[Esk247]

You can outrank keyword domain names, it just takes a lot more effort than if you had the exact match to start with, but it can be done, anchor text backlinks.

Oh yes, I mean you can get virtually any website to the top of the tree if you're good at SEO and understand how it works. Unfortunately, a lot of the results i see when i search for products or information are tat, not relevant to anything i've typed in.

E.g. if i typed in something like 'Car Cleaning Products' and the top search result said Car Cleaning Products, i go to the website and all it has is the keywords and nothing else, just empty boxes or no content, or content that has nothing to do with what it says on the tin.

Those are the types of websites that pee me off and i can't understand how they outrank websites that have very good content and high visitor rates.

 

[sigurog]

I run a small seo company and would be happy to give you an overview on what needs to be done. View my profile and you can see my website J21Media and then you can email me if you want more information on services, prices etc (email is on the website).

There are many good companies on here that can full fill what your after but we are pretty good, so worth considering.

Thanks Jon.

 

[RedEvo]

Those are the types of websites that pee me off and i can't understand how they outrank websites that have very good content and high visitor rates.

Mainly because the spammers with the sites you mention exploit all the techniques owners of decent sites avoid. The question is should you throw your hat in the ring with the spammers or hope Google continues to improve it's algo allowing the cream to float to the top.

It's the $64,000 question.

d

 

Oh yes, I mean you can get virtually any website to the top of the tree if you're good at SEO and understand how it works. Unfortunately, a lot of the results i see when i search for products or information are tat, not relevant to anything i've typed in.

E.g. if i typed in something like 'Car Cleaning Products' and the top search result said Car Cleaning Products, i go to the website and all it has is the keywords and nothing else, just empty boxes or no content, or content that has nothing to do with what it says on the tin.

Those are the types of websites that pee me off and i can't understand how they outrank websites that have very good content and high visitor rates.

Which makes a mockery of google having some sort of sophisticated algo.

Very basic in my opinion ,hence why I think you will find the more experienced SEO's still use the same techniques they did 12 years ago.

Apart from the paid links thing and the rise in URL importance.

I see very little change.?:|

Earl

 

[trebor8]

Mainly because the spammers with the sites you mention exploit all the techniques owners of decent sites avoid.

they're exploiting a flawed system

The question is should you throw your hat in the ring with the spammers

better than been on page 2,3.....57,799

allowing the cream to float to the top.

allowing the creamed to float to the top

 

[MASSEY]

I agree with trebor on this.

Its ok having a more ethical approach and people are entitled to have that view.

Just because a site decides to abuse the algorithm and artificially gain links in my view should not be looked down upon.

It's harder in most cases to create content worth linking to thatn it is to scavange for links, i scavange and do ok. If i did not scavange then my web sites would make me no money :|

I know which way i prefer.

 

[RedEvo]

they're exploiting a flawed system



better than been on page 2,3.....57,799



allowing the creamed to float to the top

Of course it's a flawed system, I've never seen any system in any sphere of human endeavour that's not flawed. I'd still put money on Google continuing to improve the algo.

d

 

[british steve]

All of the domains I registered are very keyword specific to the business I am in. If some one clicks on any of the other registered domains it is because they are interested in our product.

 

[ADW]

So are most of these just redirects? I thought that can actually damage rankings of the main site. Do you now get the majority of visitors from the add on domains ot direct?

 

[british steve]

So are most of these just redirects? I thought that can actually damage rankings of the main site. Do you now get the majority of visitors from the add on domains ot direct?

Yes, most are redirects although some do go to one page sites with links to the main page. 70-80% of traffic is from the redirects, although as this is a fairly new site it is still being indexed by Google and Bing but the main site rankings are rising pretty quick.

I didnt just register a load of old crap and redirect, these were carefuly chosen search terms very heavily related to the business we are in.

I have to say, the £250 I spent on domains was worth every penny. Now I dont spend a penny on Adwords and our sales have risen tenfold.

 

[bdw]

I am surprised to hear that this is succeeding because Google frowns upon practices like these and considers them to be black hat. It may be working for now but you could get penalised for this in the future.

Doorway pages Doorway pages are typically large sets of poor-quality pages where each page is optimized for a specific keyword or phrase. In many cases, doorway pages are written to rank for a particular phrase and then funnel users to a single destination.

Whether deployed across many domains or established within one domain, doorway pages tend to frustrate users, and are in violation of our Webmaster Guidelines.

Google's aim is to give our users the most valuable and relevant search results. Therefore, we frown on practices that are designed to manipulate search engines and deceive users by directing them to sites other than the ones they selected, and that provide content solely for the benefit of search engines. Google may take action on doorway sites and other sites making use of these deceptive practice, including removing these sites from the Google index.

 

[ADW]

I am surprised to hear that this is succeeding because Google frowns upon practices like these and considers them to be black hat. It may be working for now but you could get penalised for this in the future.

That's what I was thinking. Duplicate content etc. Haven't actually tested that out myself though.

 

[Chris Ashdown]

Sod it, just when I was going to start some clever dick spoils my day by finding the fault

Well done bdw