Business Partner Advice Needed

Sammle

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Hi,

About a year ago, me and a colleague started working on a business venture.

The idea needed (and still needs) a lot of work doing, and I wanted to do it all myself, but it was simply proving too much to do...Hence I invited him to join me.

He accepted, and to be fair, in work he is good at his full- time day job and hard working.

The financial commitment from both of us is in the hundreds of pounds at the moment, so nothing messy with money, etc.

However, as part of this venture, I expected the same kind of attitude and have been very sorely let down.

Through what seems to be an endless stream of personal circumstances and other priorities, his rate of progression through tasks is virtually nonexistant. He makes promises about completing work, having meetings with me, and so on... and a lot of the time they just don't happen.

I understand he is busy and has a job involving long hours (we both do the same thing), but the thing is I put in the effort almost every single day (7PM- 1AM most days and most of the weekend) to try and get things done, and he seems to put in about 5 hours per week judging by his output.

I repeatedly tell him that he needs to stick to deadlines, get things done, and progress, or this business will never be ready to start trading... He then makes more promises he cannot keep. He also fails to display much in the way of creative thinking, taking the initiative, and so on that he displays at work, so I just think his heart is not in this/ he is hoping to ride on my coattails for a quick buck.

SO far we have not formed a company or made any formal arrangements, so I think I can just cut him out and basically get on with it myself.... but for me the problem is taking on the extra 5% of the workload he does manage, and ever getting things done.

I think if I continue to drag him along, I will end up regretting having to give away half my profits if we ever get going properly.

I don't want to start looking for a new partner as I am worried about the same thing happening (or worse with someone I don't know) and the business consists of a lot of custom software I have spent hundreds of hours writing.

He agreed to meet with me later today and I am going to lay it out for him- but how do you actually convince someone to knuckle down? (If he does not turn up, I am going to ring him and tell him he's off this project).

The more I think about it, the more I think he won't change and is not motivated enough, so has to go, but I am worried about continuing alone. I know this business can be profitable (and I am surprised this has not spurned him on as we both agree the figures work) if I can get the help I need to get it started, but I don't know where to go now really. I need someone with certain skills to help me out with it, and I don't know anyone else who can help me really.

What would you do in my situation?

Thanks
 

patientlady

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I think from what you have said things may not change and you may regret moving forward. It can be very difficult to have a business partner! My father always told me if you can do it on your own you will always be in charge of your own destiny! Could you pay someone in the mean time to assist you, rather than take on another partner? Good luck with your project...
 
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ally_1988

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I can answer this one from personal experience...and I'm only 21!! Get rid of him!

If you are already struggling to get anywhere and you don't feel they are committed in this early stage then without a doubt you need to say thank you and goodbye to them.

I made the mistake of forming a company with several friends/colleagues and although at the time it seemed a great idea, the cracks soon started to show, and the worse bit is, you end up doing all of the work for only your share of the profits. Unfortunately once things become more official, it's far more difficult to undo them.

Hope this helps.
 
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Sounds like his heart isn't in it and his priorities lie elsewhere. Maybe easing him out is something that you will have to do.

But can you blame him? There's only so long you can hold a vision and make slow progress. Naturally motivation wears thin and other things take over. Realistically if you were seeing results he would probably be a lot more active.

You need to sit down and seriously look at the direction of your business. Its been a year - you've only put in peanuts and haven't even formed a company!

That's not to say it can't be a success, but perhaps you need to decide if its a business or not. If it is you need to seriously look at how you will take it forward over the next 6-12 months.

Hope that helps. Good luck.
 
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Sammle

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We have been far from 'doing nothing' over the past year...

We have agreements in place with a lot of people, plus progressed leaps and bounds on the software side of things. We are moving forward constantly, and he always knew there would be an initial 'slog' at the beginning to get the development side of things complete.

If he had put in the same effort as me, we would have been ready some time ago I think. Maybe it's a catch- 22 situation where the longer it takes to get going, the less motivated he is, less gets done, etc etc.

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simonh@

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He simply does not have your dreams or aims. It is a case of he is to busy to make money. You have to let him go. Perhaps use an agency for a couple of hours a night if you can afford it. Oh and make sure any one you do get sign a confidetiality agreement before they see anything you are working on.

Regards and goodluck
 
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Sounds like his heart isn't in it and his priorities lie elsewhere. Maybe easing him out is something that you will have to do.

But can you blame him? There's only so long you can hold a vision and make slow progress. Naturally motivation wears thin and other things take over. Realistically if you were seeing results he would probably be a lot more active.

You need to sit down and seriously look at the direction of your business. Its been a year - you've only put in peanuts and haven't even formed a company!

That's not to say it can't be a success, but perhaps you need to decide if its a business or not. If it is you need to seriously look at how you will take it forward over the next 6-12 months.

Hope that helps. Good luck.

You beat me to it Logic. My initial thought was also 'what's holding this guy back'. As you say, his heart isn't in it. Some people are big dreamers and talk a good game but they can't leave their comfort zone. That's not a criticism, just how it is.

I think the OP should move on with new partners, having given the current guy the option to knuckle down.
 
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sanjiv

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Whatever you do don't give shares as an inducement as suggested above, The shares in your company are your most treasured posesion and should never be given away unless really nessasary
It would be really necessary if he could not have the company without employing someone and paying them with shares (if he hadn't enough money to pay them).
 
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The issue of shares doesn't even come into it until he forms a company. Something which he feels he doesn't need to do yet.

As I said, I would sit down and have a talk with him about the direction of your business. If your able to go it alone then the time is now, as said above, once your incorporated it could get messy.
 
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mainplayer

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I am a start-up owner. I know very well how difficult it is to get the right business partner who shares the same vision and has the same passion.

I think he appears to be reluctant becasue he thinks this may not be a successful business. Have you tried to persuaded him that this is gonna be successful?

Most successful businesses are run by more than 1 person. You may not need a partner now cuz the scale of your present business allows you to handle everything on your own. You need one when things are getting complicated. Having a partner means that you have someone who is in your shoes to talk to. you need that cuz the low point of starting a business is so low that you may not be able to face it alone.
 
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