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agent mulder

i am doing a small construction project ( 14 flats ) for a company i have not worked for before. Everything to start with was going ok, but they have always been hopeless at getting information, materials to site when they are needed. As a result of this we have a number of items part finished, and have been told to start other jobs that aren't really to be carried out, which i can see will cause problems in the future.

the contracts manager has been on site today and i received a shitty email about needing more labour on site and if it dosent happen they will bring in other chippies and take work off me.

can anybody help me with a constructive reply as I'm that pissed off with them at the mo i can only think of four letter responses.

thanks
 
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Root 66 Woodshop

i am doing a small construction project ( 14 flats ) for a company i have not worked for before. Everything to start with was going ok, but they have always been hopeless at getting information, materials to site when they are needed. As a result of this we have a number of items part finished, and have been told to start other jobs that aren't really to be carried out, which i can see will cause problems in the future.

the contracts manager has been on site today and i received a shitty email about needing more labour on site and if it dosent happen they will bring in other chippies and take work off me.

can anybody help me with a constructive reply as I'm that pissed off with them at the mo i can only think of four letter responses.

thanks

OK, this isn't exactly how you should word it, but I'd go along the lines of...

Good Afternoon [insert name here]

In order to comply with basic Health & safety and BS standards it would be unwise for us to start on another section of the work required until we have completed what we need to do.

The last thing I am sure you would want to happen is to be faced with filling out forms for RIDDOR because work wasn't completed to satisfactory standard before we continued with the project and an accident was to occure.

I have attached our standard H&S documentation regarding what you are asking us to do while on site, and you will see that it would be uncompliable for me and my staff (if you have some... not sure ;) ) to continue with the project until:

A. [insert section of work that is required here]

is completed by the installation of [insert materials here]

B. [insert section of work that is required here]

is completed by the installation of [insert materials here]

I am sure that a professional company like yourselves understands that we can only comply to the basic requirements of this installation, by failing to do so would mean that you have requested us to go against our standard of practice, therefore if anything untoward was to happen you as the Projects Manager would be liable.

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Or something along those lines

Play it into his hands so that he/she is aware that if you cut corners, it is them that would be liable as you are the sub-contractor on the job and you are following thier requirements of installation... If anything, it may ease them off from the pushing, and make them sort out the materials you need so as not to hold the job up longer...

Quite obviously, there are people here that would be able to help a lot more than I could ever with in this situation, however as a Manager I do know that if I was to ask my staff including sub-contractors to work outside the basic H&S laws, it would be me personally that would be liable.
 
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IANL

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i am doing a small construction project ( 14 flats ) for a company i have not worked for before. Everything to start with was going ok, but they have always been hopeless at getting information, materials to site when they are needed. As a result of this we have a number of items part finished, and have been told to start other jobs that aren't really to be carried out, which i can see will cause problems in the future.

the contracts manager has been on site today and i received a shitty email about needing more labour on site and if it dosent happen they will bring in other chippies and take work off me.

can anybody help me with a constructive reply as I'm that pissed off with them at the mo i can only think of four letter responses.

thanks

Are you working to a set of plans and an original timeline.?

Do you have a scope of works or any form of written agreement.

If not are you just on a day rate?

If you want to really p off the contracts manager bring up H&S. He might see that as a smoke screen. H&S is vital in construction workplaces but bring up only if it really is an issue and Health or safety is really at risk.

Detail the facts as you have seen them. Delayed materials etc. "How can I complete work if the materials do not arrive when they are needed".

Be reasonable and straight. Say that you are a professional and have done all you can and could f he was in your shoes what would he expect you to do.
 
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dal

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I worked for a firm like that recently; they were absolute cowboys. I bent over backwards to help them, works out of sequence, dangerous working conditions etc.
I can't really better the advice that's been given, but I would say email everything and a meeting. If you are waiting on information from them obviously you need to request information, but you can charge for non productive time. I think the fidic whitebook may help you with these sort of issues for the next project http://www.scribd.com/doc/31980398/FIDIC-WHite-Book-2006.
 
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avalanche

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You can try everything you like but at the end of the day they are always right so you just have to grin and bare it.
work on the best exit strategy you can
flood it with joiners as best you can book as many extras as you can and move on is the best policy

where are you based? i might be able to help if you need joiners
 
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