best way to get backlinks

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The days are gone when this used to work. It was great in its day, but now web space has value attached to it, and this value means chargeable fees my friend...

Only way the free link thing may work, is based on recommendations eg: I see a site in passing, and I say to friend A "This site is great, it does x,y and z as its unique" but this is about attracting a user-base and not links that lead to sales. So you'll get the odd site possibly linking to you, which in reality wont ever get you started enough to make you stand out, as not enough links required in SERPS to be worth while and youll spend your lifetime forcing it to work and its impossible for some small time local website to do this.

Too small to scale up and wrong type of biz for masses to bother linking to.

Yeah totally true. This method's going to attract your average internet user looking to read something - highly unlikely to purchase anything you're selling as they likely don't represent your target market at all.

If that's the focus of your site you're much better focusing your energy on great UX and CRO anyway I think.
 
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This is too hard to get quality backlinks in 2014 because google bot got more active and updated. so you need to focus on only getting backlinks also to provide useful information to your visitors google counts it. Best way to get quality backlinks are here: Relevant Forum posting, Blog commenting related to the topic, guest blogging, press release, social bookmarking do not focus to submit exact keywords only make keyword variation, web 2.0 with fresh content etc...
 
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so you need to focus on only getting backlinks also to provide useful information to your visitors google counts it.

But what does 'useful information links' actually mean? It could mean request links from a news site, which you won't get as the 10 page sole-trader site you have isn't worthy of a link back.

Does Google realise what's involved for the non-info type site these days. If you don't own an info based site - you are screwed as far as free links are concerned.
 
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The best way to get great backlinks is by asking other bloggers in your niche to post a review about your website. This will give you very good, editorial type backlinks. An editorial backlink is one given by a site owner, rather than a backlink obtained by posting in the blog comment section. These type of backlinks are very valuable and authoritative with Google.
 
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If you are going to submit guest blog articles make sure the blogs are in your niche and be very careful about using keywords as anchor text. You are better off using Brand Links on authority blogs but if you must use keyword rich anchor text use a low ratio and dilute it with Click Here's, Brand links and and other non-keyword text.
Better one authority backlink than 10 rubbish ones that Google will sooner or later penalise you for.
 
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People Stop......Guest posts, article submissions and all ARTIFICIAL means of link generation will surely get your website in trouble. I can guarantee that !

search on google for guest post links.....

read before you act....
 
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Black hat techniques suggests something nasty or evil, and directories, blogs and pr release sites aren't 'evil' in any way. Been using em for years and they never affected my traffic flow one bit, actually we own a series of blogs ourselves lol, so we know they work fine in the SERPS and usually our posts are indexed within 1 hour.

Infact traffic on one of our sites has jumped by over 55% from 2014 and may even reach 100% by the end of the year, and very possible too.

I think you'll find these SEO bods are also link builders that go around spamming their client links onto directories, comment forms and the like - oh yes we know so, as we've used such services and spoken with clients and others who experienced it.

Press sites and directory links has not affected our ability to do business and never will. But we will never spend money with Google, never and that's our evil promise.
 
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Now the current trend of making backlinks is commenting on relevant blogs. Article post is also a great way. But you need to keep an eye on many things before posting an article like Author should be real and article should contain a minimum of 400 words. you can find a lot of article posting sites from Google. just give a search!!
 
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Oh dear it just keeps going doesn't it. :(

hand commenting on on topic real posts where there is aboslutely no spam posted IS an acceptable way of marketing, building relationships and building backlinks also. BUT you can't rely on it for backlinks. you should cultivate that site make a relationship with the owner, and look to get a post on there.

An article should be as long or as short as it needs to be, 400 words minimum, 3 links yada yada yada is bunkum, formulaic SEO is dead.
 
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hand commenting on on topic real posts where there is aboslutely no spam posted IS an acceptable way of marketing

Ive yet to see a blog of such quality, that it allows anyone to spam it freely, and by doing so ruin what the amazing traffic magnet it has worked so hard to be. All blog commenting is spam, pure and simple.

I don't believe in 'quality comments' I see the whole thing as a giant sales pitch by link building SEO's from all countries of the world. The fact that weblinks are freely given when posting, clearly encourages third party agent spammers and that's the issue here. Content work should always be DIY, categorised, themed, controlled by publishers and this will stamp out spam.
 
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Did you read what I said? Seriously did you?

I am asking because for some reason you made the quantum leap from commenting properly on a related blog, to 'freely allowing spam'. With respect, your claim that ;'all blog commenting is spam is laughable and beyond the pale, how on earth can getting engaged on a blog post on a subject you know about be 'spamming'?

If you see the whole ting as 'giant sales pitch' then you have real problems, I comment on blogs constantly, I don't post links, I am not interested if it is dofollow no follow, it doesn't worry me if there is a link from my name or not, I am commenting on the blogs because it is in an area I am passionate about. that could be SEO, it could be Marketing, it could be the sport I am invoilved in, it could be about Wales. Now explain how this is spamming?

Are you SERIOUSLY trying to say that no-one the wrold over should comment on a blog post because it is spamming?

That is so funny it is scary :D
 
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With respect, your claim that ;'all blog commenting is spam is laughable

People go on blogs to do 2 things:

1. get information that helps them make money or get rich quick

2. allows them to easily drop links eg: spam. Spam is to gain advantage from someone elses effort, without paying for it.

So to think that majority of posters exists to help the world is nuts as always a financial motive attached to the link drop. If you are so helpful and wish to serve mankind, then posting on others blogs is a waste of your time as I know from vast exp there's far easier ways to help people than some little blog or series of little blogs, that you (and others) are assisting them rank higher by posting....

I noticed on the homepage that the last post was on July 2013, and one of the posts speaks of doorway pages - why I thought that subject was put to sleep years ago. And if people are still using such tricks, then their just stupid idiots.

So you say, you don't spam others? well that's not quite true is it, as you spam Ukbf, with links attached to every post and provide a packaged link building service.
 
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So I guess you think that guest blogging on someone's site, that they have given permission for you to do because you have quality content to aid their reader's is not quality content?

To have successful backlinks you need relationships with these quality sites, but you can't approach them with mindless drivel, you are given permission because your content holds substance. This not only benefits yourself with a backlink, but also drives more traffic to their site because you content is sort after.

And actually, in my personal opinion.... I find OldWelshGuy extremely informative and apparently so do many others due to over 6,500 'thanks' on his profile. Unfortunately nothing in this world is free and I don't mind having a bit of advice ('spam' in your words) at the expense of OldWelshGuy having a link to his site.

I think you argument is invalid and distasteful
 
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you think that guest blogging on someone's site, that they have given permission for you to do because you have quality content to aid their reader's

There's a huge difference to the sites I own and operate compared to the junk blogs that frequent the web and the trash of society who abuse whatever limited invited registration rights that are given. The trash being freelance SEO's that openly spam others work/property. So nothing distasteful in that right?...... :rolleyes: some dodgy, invented lover lover, unregulated, guru-wannabee service that reigns terror in wasted hours of delete time for publishers is fine I suppose.



because your content holds substance.

What you are talking about and confusing with are the pure, info portals and vortals like: TechCrunch - as majority of blogs are made for adsense trash, and not applicable to what a true info site should be and those trash sites must attract spam links down to the ease of entry.

Also the ratio between the thanks votes and OWG's amount of posts only clarifies that he (and others) will get a certain amount of thanks in relation to the amount of posts made - so nothing impressive in those stats from what I can see. Now I've never used his services, so cant comment on results, then again anyone who relies on forum posts as a quality guide of results, is asking for trouble.

We usually give a wide berth to such companies, as we look for other factors of substance eg: like a real bone fide product before we even consider using anyone. We see forums as a dumping ground for FFA type link spammers, its just some spammers are now more inventive than say 10 years ago, and for spam to be effective, its got to look legit, and the 'I'm your friendly forum neighbour' is better for sucking in the suckers as more likely to be accepted than a direct link spam drop. But there are tell tale signs on how to tell the real helpers of the web, from the snake oil sellers.

My point? if all these link spammers, forum advisors, PPC guys etc are so great at making others rich, then why don't they build a site and make themselves rich instead, it would save them a heap of marketing time/effort. In other words:

If I knew a way to make you a ton of money, would I tell the world for £100 a time, or keep it to myself and just get rich.... you can get this secret answer from me, just send me a cheque for £20 to this address first though ok, and I promise to send you an ebook with the secrets - honest! But please ensure its sent via Western Union ok - most important!

Now, the above seems to run the same risk as doing business with a complete stranger on some forum right...

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Now I'll tell you that getting backlinks has nothing to do with secret relationships, but everything to do with 'list ownership' - these are lists of various quality that SEO's use to link build you a presense (cough, sorry link spam you about). Its bad news and causes huge problems for the unsuspecting client, and makes the SEO spammer their cash.

I feel from reading posts on here/SEO threads, that many assume acquiring links is a sort of art form, but its not as access to free weblinks is heavily controlled by the publishing sites with no easy route into the sites. So that leaves us with 'open forms' which will be the naff, crap and totally unrelated junk of the web eg: the blog owners who couldn't give a monkeys behind as long as displaying bs/nonsense comments makes them feel like a king of the web amongst their like-minded adsense peers.

I think you'll find that SEO will drain your pocket faster than you'll make it back.
 
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I think a new small business should consider the paid-link.
Wow, that is not a good piece of advice. Sooner or later paid links will be found by Google and your site can be hit. Why you would risk your time and money ? Just stay on safe side. Make some natural links and you will succeed in long term. Yes, it is not an easy task but will be a much better investment.
 
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Wow, that is not a good piece of advice. Sooner or later paid links will be found by Google and your site can be hit. Why you would risk your time and money ? Just stay on safe side. Make some natural links and you will succeed in long term. Yes, it is not an easy task but will be a much better investment.

iiisark Thanks for your reply.
The "paid-link" I metioned above refer to kind of sponsor link or a backlink in a paid article. I know the link should be nature.
 
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Hire a copy writing agency such as Ninja Creative or Copify to write you some blog posts, and then network with bloggers in your business area - This will encourage backlinks. Obviously there's a lot more to it than that, but there's a start.
 
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Doing a guest blog post on a popular blog is a great way to get links and quality traffic to your website.

Pretty sure Google frowns upon guest posts nowadays. I reckon a better way is to get a blogger to write about your topic, linking to your site, without wording it in a promotional manner, or mentioning your official author's name.
 
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Pretty sure Google frowns upon guest posts nowadays

Yes, they do. Not much left now, the free link stuff died years ago, in about 2007, and the talk of
'don't opt for paid links' is wrong and at odds with what the web is supposed to be about and what websites are about. Links are what drives traffic, you cant get em for free, nothing that's worth having anyway as all the good sites went paid years ago.

The true resources will tell you to bugger off and quite right too. One fact remains, if you give your webspace for free, you cant make a profit. Somehow spamming Twitter daily, isn't targeted enough hmmm lol.
 
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    Yes, they do. Not much left now, the free link stuff died years ago, in about 2007, and the talk of
    'don't opt for paid links' is wrong and at odds with what the web is supposed to be about and what websites are about. Links are what drives traffic, you cant get em for free, nothing that's worth having anyway as all the good sites went paid years ago.

    Nonsense. We do not pay for links and we get perfectly adequate traffic from websites within our niche community.
     
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    Yes, they do. Not much left now, the free link stuff died years ago, in about 2007, and the talk of
    'don't opt for paid links' is wrong and at odds with what the web is supposed to be about and what websites are about. Links are what drives traffic, you cant get em for free, nothing that's worth having anyway as all the good sites went paid years ago.

    The true resources will tell you to bugger off and quite right too. One fact remains, if you give your webspace for free, you cant make a profit. Somehow spamming Twitter daily, isn't targeted enough hmmm lol.


    So how have I got sites with links from the BBC, Sky and many other authority sites?

    The web is actually about links, not paid links, the ethos of the web is reward for free, but it has become commercialised.

    People are free to sell links it isn't against the law, it isn't right or wrong, it is basic commerce. HOWEVER (and this is the key here), the biggest search engine in the world has declared paid links against its terms and conditions of use. And, if they decide, they will punish both sellers and buyers of paid links, because that is their prerogative.

    Reality is, if companies want to err on the safe side, they won't sell or buy links that are not coded with the nofollow attribute, and if they ignore this then they should do so with their eyes wide open.
     
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    we get perfectly adequate traffic from websites within our niche community.

    I'm sure its adequate for eeking out the odd client here and there.

    We've bought links before, in no way does it affect traffic-flow to us, then again we planned for the future, a future that doesn't rely on the old-style search engine marketing for visitors - maybe there's a serious lesson in that. Get your own audience of followers and I don't mean Twitter, only then will you learn what I'm talking about.

    How can paid links be dead, what do you think text-links on MSN is....


    So how have I got sites with links from the BBC, Sky and many other authority sites?

    Lots of media slots to fill, maybe the top guys were being interviewed by other national publications. I know I was.
     
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    I'm sure its adequate for eeking out the odd client here and there.

    Nope. It's adequate for building and growing the business, thanks.

    Other than you, who's talking about Twitter on this thread?

    Come to that, who said paid links are dead? If you can't be bothered to actually read other people's posts properly, no wonder you seem to have difficulty understanding some simple concepts. I suspect you failed in your marketing endeavours because you didn't take the time to try and understand them, so judging by the nonsense you've posted in the last couple of posts, I reckon you're worth putting on the ignore list. I doubt I'll miss any worthwhile advice from you.
     
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    but it has become commercialised.

    Ofcourse.... it had to.

    Reality is, if companies want to err on the safe side, they won't sell or buy links that are not coded with the nofollow attribute,

    Some care, but many don't as long as the right traffic is delivered. At least its honest and upfront and you know what your getting for the cash, you know, no bs or risk of removal like the free SERPS do, none of that shuffling and manipulation cobblers to be had at all with paid links.

    There's quite a few engines that don't work on manipulation, and their getting rich from not controlling others.
     
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    Lots of media slots to fill, maybe the top guys were being interviewed by other national publications. I know I was.


    That is so funny :) So I was on the BBC because the other people were busier having opted for being interviewed by some national publications? Classic.

    So what is it you do then? I ask as you are completely anonymous, can you name your businesses?
     
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