Avoiding Duplicate content penalisation

Toni Anicic

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    You should actually submit unique content.

    Also, your website will not suffer any penalty regarding duplicated content on other websites. When facing duplicated content on different domains, Google simply picks up the more relevant result for the query to display it in the search results.

    Duplicated content on the same website, however, is a different case :)
     
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    SCArt

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    I'm currently busy doing just that - submitting articles to as many sites as possible but I'm a bit worried about the proliferation of directories simply for SEO purposes. I only submit to sites that offer free links but clearly these sites are all set up using the same template and although they have a resonable Page Ranking some of them seem to have been just knocked together for the purposes of persuading you to pay for a "premium" link.

    Does anyone know if I will be penalised for submitting articles to (or indeed adding backlinks from) these sites.

    And how do I determine which sites are reputable?

    Thanks
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    david64

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    A lot of people do what is known as article spinning. This is when you create an article and do all sorts of things to make different versions of it. Things like word substitution, paragraph switching, sentence switching etc.

    For example, something like:

    HTML:
    [The Beatles|The Spice Girls] [are|were] [big|little|obnoxious] [clowns|loonies].

    and this would produce random sentences like:

    The Spice Girls were obnoxious loonies.


    This method is not exactly viewed with much regard by search engines though.
     
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    Stampy

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    A lot of people do what is known as article spinning. This is when you create an article and do all sorts of things to make different versions of it. Things like word substitution, paragraph switching, sentence switching etc.

    For example, something like:

    HTML:
    [The Beatles|The Spice Girls] [are|were] [big|little|obnoxious] [clowns|loonies].

    and this would produce random sentences like:

    The Spice Girls were obnoxious loonies.


    This method is not exactly viewed with much regard by search engines though.

    How would a search engine know whether an article had been spun, if all it sees is a spun version? If the uniqueness is high enough it will see it as original content - surely it won't know that it has been spun / rewritten from another article?
     
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    LBtrading

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    How would a search engine know whether an article had been spun, if all it sees is a spun version? If the uniqueness is high enough it will see it as original content - surely it won't know that it has been spun / rewritten from another article?

    They wouldnt and you are completely right, infact duplicate content isnt as much of an issue as people think when it comes to submitting articles.

    BUT spinning is the best technique if using articles for backlinks. The thing with article directories is that google and other search engines do know people submit articles for backlinks so I would bet my last penny the accomodate for this.

    That does not mean submitting articles for links is pointless it just measn you have to submit lots of them,

    if you really want to do this effeciently then invest in a article spinning/submission software.

    You can get software where you input your spin ready article and then hit the submit button and it will submit a unique article to each directory. can easily submit to 100 sites in about an hour.

    otherwise if you are manually submitting each article manually would take you 1 or 2 days to do 100 and really wouldnt get enough value compared to the time put in.

    oh yeah submitting 1 article 100 times isnt going to be enough to rank for decent terms.
     
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    david64

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    How would a search engine know whether an article had been spun, if all it sees is a spun version? If the uniqueness is high enough it will see it as original content - surely it won't know that it has been spun / rewritten from another article?

    I agree that you can throw garbage at search engines within limits of uniqueness and nonsense-level. However, Google is able to spot some things as nonsense. Have ran my own tests and found that you can make really poor quality pages that Google will basically sandbox.
     
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    ...This method is not exactly viewed with much regard by search engines though.

    The question becomes why?

    Many article sites, directories… rank for squat. The same for many of the web 2 sites which are all noise and little quality. I’ve yet to see firm proof that these techniques are worth perusing (but I see many businesses putting a lot of effort into these practises).

    The value from the noise of the above becomes increasingly valueless, so WHY bother? Instead why not spend the time productively in creating quality content and getting quality links?

    Don’t be a sheep become a wolf.

    NOT TO REALLY SCARE anyone BUT…!

    I will bet that within 12 months poor quality links associated with your product and/or service will actually start to nobble your SERP’s. Less noise and more signal.;)
     
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    ORDERED WEB

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    The whole "spinning" and "multiple submissions" thing stinks of desparation, and is misguided

    If your website is unique enough, and has enough appeal, and the right marketing, and sensible SEO, you will get all the trafic you want with out resorting to filling up webservers full of crappy varients of crappy articles

    If your website is just plain vanila boring, has no appeal appeal, and poor marketing and misguided SEO - then it will not get much traffic

    Too many people are obsessed with trafic. You are paid in cash, not traffic. If your sites conversion is poor, then regardless of how much trafic you get, you will remain poor

    Considering that on average conversion of a typical retial site ia 1-3% (depending on sector) Concentrating on getting conversion right is the main thing site owners should do
     
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