autistic employees

[Root 66 Woodshop]

To be honest and regardless of arguments or negativity towards the OP with how he decided upon the role being best suited to someone with Autism...

The best man got the job. Fair play to the fella.

 

[Suzuki]

I find some of the discussions related to this post quite discriminatory as an independent HR person. You need to choose your employees for the skills they bring to the workplace. You can't discount someone because they have autism, mental health issues or are of child-bearing age! During the recruitment process if you visibly discount someone because they may have a disability you may end up an employment tribunal. I have represented quite a few autistic people at tribunal as they can be misunderstood in the workplace. One was discounted at interview the other was unfairly selected for redundancy.

An organisation should use an occupational health advisor to assess what adjustments might need to be made in the workplace to employ someone who is autistic or with mental health issues. Occupational health will advise whether they are suitable for a particular role or not provided they are given a job description and sufficient information so they can provide advice.

For an employer who refuses to employ a woman of child bearing age or sacks a woman because of her pregnancy or going on maternity leave deserves all they get in an employment tribunal. Read my blog on the subject http://sjbhr-hrblog.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/pregnancy-and-maternity-discrimination.html

What would your process be for taking my Seychelles registered, Monaco run company to an employment tribunal for openly saying I won't hire pregnant women?

 

[Mpg]

'I think maybe I feel uneasy because the OP has specifically targeted a specific criteria rather than opening the position up to all and choosing the best candidate.'




complete rubbish, the position was open up to all, which is why the best candidate(s) got the job. I haven't excluded anyone, quite the opposite - ive included everyone - what nonsense i'm reading here.

are you calling this an affirmative action recruitment?

what criteria do you think I had for the job ?

Woah Go easy. I wasn't having a pop.

Although if you read your first 2 posts it certainly gave me the impression that you had targeted people with Autism for the roles.

As for the criteria. Re-reading your first 2 posts. It looks to me like you wanted someone with Autism as the work is repetitive

I have a requirement for somebody to do very repetitive work, but an attention to detail is required. There is plenty of separating and sorting to be done as part of the job.
I have done some research and found that for some within the autistic spectrum, this kind of work is ideal.

You say nothing about opening up the post for all to apply

 

[simon field]

If we're completely honest, don't we all discriminate to some extent?

 

[Riverbed]

Woah Go easy. I wasn't having a pop.

Although if you read your first 2 posts it certainly gave me the impression that you had targeted people with Autism for the roles.

As for the criteria. Re-reading your first 2 posts. It looks to me like you wanted someone with Autism as the work is repetitive


You say nothing about opening up the post for all to apply

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'I wasn't having a pop'
You're some way suggesting employers like us are exploitive of these people.

'You say nothing about opening up the post for all to apply'
Did I need to quote our 'Equal Opportunity' Policy before starting the thread? this is not a job board.

If I said: 'I'm considering hiring some able bodied men to load several tons of scrap metal a day into a big skip '.. would you still feel uneasy about the fact I am 'targeting' ( your word ) people better suited to the job than most ?

I doubt you think anything unusual about that, I doubt you would suggest we're exploitive either... but bring autism into it etc... etc...

its crazy.

 

[Nuno]

HR professional feels uneasy about someone trying to do the right thing as it might cut HR professional out of the loop.

In other news: Grizzly bears sponsored by Andrex.

 

[Mpg]

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'I wasn't having a pop'
You're some way suggesting employers like us are exploitive of these people.

'You say nothing about opening up the post for all to apply'
Did I need to quote our 'Equal Opportunity' Policy before starting the thread? this is not a job board.

If I said: 'I'm considering hiring some able bodied men to load several tons of scrap metal a day into a big skip '.. would you still feel uneasy about the fact I am 'targeting' ( your word ) people better suited to the job than most ?

I doubt you think anything unusual about that, I doubt you would suggest we're exploitive either... but bring autism into it etc... etc...

its crazy.

You've taken almost everything I've said out of context. I even said

I commend the OP its a big step. It shouldn't be a big step though.

I'm sure your advert for either job would be worded differently

I'm sure you wouldn't advertise the job (using your example)

Wanted:
Autistic person sought for boring repetitive work.

Like I've said previously I wasn't having a pop. I actually congratulated you on taking what most would view as a risky step. Although like I've said previously it shouldn't be such a big step.

Now your being over sensitive because YOU think I don't think its a good Idea.

Wrong

I have family members with varying degrees of ableness. And if more employers were as open to trying them as you then I'd say it would be a positive experience for you both.

All I said was "I feel uneasy" with what appeared from your opening posts at the targeting of a particular group.

I didn't say you were exploiting anybody.

 

[Justin Smith]

I'm guessing anyone with the difficulties mentioned in this thread are doing a job that can be taught in a few days. Combine that with massive unemployment... its no big deal if employees leave as you can easily replace them.

For me, I'd rather find high quality staff and pay them so much they don't want to leave, rather than find people too stupid or disabled to be able to find work elsewhere.

It may be no big deal for you if your emplyees leave, but it certainly is for me, and, I`d warrant, most businesses, particularly smaller businesses.

 

[Justin Smith]

Woah Go easy. I wasn't having a pop.

Although if you read your first 2 posts it certainly gave me the impression that you had targeted people with Autism for the roles.

As for the criteria. Re-reading your first 2 posts. It looks to me like you wanted someone with Autism as the work is repetitive


You say nothing about opening up the post for all to apply

Even if he had I don`t personally see anything wrong with that, everyone has their own strengths and weaknesses and employers "target" people with the relevant strengths.