Anyone have an experience of using premicells?

[longleaf1]

As title says really, i'm nearly out of contract with BT and i'm looking at options. Came across these premicells and was wondering if anyone has any experience of using them with a normal home landline?
BTW i'm also thinking of changing to orange - they can't divert to mobiles but would it be possible with one of these?
Main reason is to try to lower my landline divert to my mobile costs!
Thanks

 

[Newcott]

I don't know much about its competitors but it works well and does the job. Mobile to mobile calls effectivly and brings your land line costs down - you've just got to make sure you get a good deal on the sim to make it worth it.

 

[british steve]

As title says really, i'm nearly out of contract with BT and i'm looking at options. Came across these premicells and was wondering if anyone has any experience of using them with a normal home landline?
BTW i'm also thinking of changing to orange - they can't divert to mobiles but would it be possible with one of these?
Main reason is to try to lower my landline divert to my mobile costs!
Thanks

A Premicell is designed to take traffic of your mobile phone network and run it down your broadband connection. A Premicell unit basically converts your mobile phone call in to a VoIP call. Effectively you pay your mobile network for calls and the cheeky toads run it over your broadband connection and still charge you the higher mobile rate. Worse still if your Premicell is turned on, other customers calls on that same mobile phone network may be made over your Premicell connection (neither you or them will be any the wiser) rather than running it over the higher cost mobile phone network. The Vodafone Premicell unit I believe offer up to 5 consecutive calls!



Using a Premicell unit will not make any difference to the cost of your calls. You would be better of getting a VoIP No and re-directing it to your mobile - look around and you should be able to get a divert rate of 8p per minute or less.

 

[longleaf1]

Thanks Steve, that makes sense, I was finding it difficult to get my head around!!
After lots of investigating - i think i'm going to go with this... http://soho66.co.uk/87203/all/1/Mobile-VoIP.aspx

 

[roydmoorian]

A Premicell is designed to take traffic of your mobile phone network and run it down your broadband connection. A Premicell unit basically converts your mobile phone call in to a VoIP call. Effectively you pay your mobile network for calls and the cheeky toads run it over your broadband connection and still charge you the higher mobile rate. Worse still if your Premicell is turned on, other customers calls on that same mobile phone network may be made over your Premicell connection (neither you or them will be any the wiser) rather than running it over the higher cost mobile phone network. The Vodafone Premicell unit I believe offer up to 5 consecutive calls!



Using a Premicell unit will not make any difference to the cost of your calls. You would be better of getting a VoIP No and re-directing it to your mobile – look around and you should be able to get a divert rate of 8p per minute or less.

Are you sure that you are talking about a premicell - ours has NO broadband connection, it has an antenna and works when the analogue line with broadband is disconnected.- it takes all calls from our ISND lines which are going a mobile network and uses inclusive minutes from our mobile contract. The sim in our unit is on orange and as such any call to an orange phone and any within our caller group is free and outside our caller group we are using inclusive minutes. Saves us around £100 per month making calls to non group mobile users.

We do not give out the number of the premicell unit as we get most benefit by ringing out on it. Incoming calls come through an 0845 number to our 2 pais of ISDN lines.

 

[sanjiv]

A Premicell is designed to take traffic of your mobile phone network and run it down your broadband connection. A Premicell unit basically converts your mobile phone call in to a VoIP call. Effectively you pay your mobile network for calls and the cheeky toads run it over your broadband connection and still charge you the higher mobile rate. Worse still if your Premicell is turned on, other customers calls on that same mobile phone network may be made over your Premicell connection (neither you or them will be any the wiser) rather than running it over the higher cost mobile phone network. The Vodafone Premicell unit I believe offer up to 5 consecutive calls!



Using a Premicell unit will not make any difference to the cost of your calls. You would be better of getting a VoIP No and re-directing it to your mobile – look around and you should be able to get a divert rate of 8p per minute or less.

I think you might be thinking of UMA or phone signal boosters over internet.

A premicell is a unit which you can put your sim card in and run your regular desktop phones off. Google it.

 

[longleaf1]

right... so i would be saving money!?? lol :|

 

[Deleted member 45438]

Alot of neworks no longer allow new applications for SIM cards that will be used in such devices as premicells. I'd check this.

 

[Call The Office]

Premicells may save you money or may not it depends on the individual business, they were great when mobile rates were huge as it saved your business 20-45% on calls depending on network and destination called.

You do not always need this old technology to save money now.

You need a sim rental (card) for each call needed consequtively and a premicell (premise based mobile network switch)

Normally when looking at a business and it's requirements we look at putting bespoke mobile tariffs in place very similar to those a premicell would achieve for you but without the hassle.

ISDN lines are expensive to rent and maintain aswell so try to look at the overall picture.

I don't know about other network suppliers but we try to give a portion of inclusive minutes aswell so do look into things before you commit to long contracts and capital outlay.

 

[british steve]

Thanks Steve, that makes sense, I was finding it difficult to get my head around!!
After lots of investigating - i think i'm going to go with this... http://soho66.co.uk/87203/all/1/Mobile-VoIP.aspx

Sorry, bad advice. Ignore what I said! I am having a particularly thick day today!

I miss read it for Femtocell. Yes you will save money.

Bear in mind that in the not too distant future the inter-connect rate charged by each of the networks is being reduced bring the cost of calls to mobiles right down even from a landline!

 

[roydmoorian]

Premicells may save you money or may not it depends on the individual business, they were great when mobile rates were huge as it saved your business 20-45% on calls depending on network and destination called.

You do not always need this old technology to save money now.

You need a sim rental (card) for each call needed consequtively and a premicell (premise based mobile network switch)

Normally when looking at a business and it's requirements we look at putting bespoke mobile tariffs in place very similar to those a premicell would achieve for you but without the hassle.

ISDN lines are expensive to rent and maintain aswell so try to look at the overall picture.

I don't know about other network suppliers but we try to give a portion of inclusive minutes aswell so do look into things before you commit to long contracts and capital outlay.

ISDN lines may well be relatively expensive but BT is committed to restoring an interrupted service within a finite time - unlike broadband which MAY get repaired this week, next week, next month sometime !

Not much good for a business reliant upon communication.

We are saving at least 75% on call charges from our office desk phones compared with 12 months ago. It may be old technology but it does work.

 

[graemepirie]

I think a premicell is a GSM Gateway? ie basically a mobile in a box with connections for phone & PC?

I use 2n Easygate GSM gateways. There's a SIM in them & when you call to mobile through them you use the mobile minutes in the SIM.

Be very careful what operator you use - O2 are fine but T-Mobile specifically ban it - they WILL find out & block the card. Also the commercial use (re-selling the service) is illegal.

 

[longleaf1]

ISDN lines are expensive to rent and maintain aswell so try to look at the overall picture.

Whats an IDSN line? Can't I just run it off a normal line.

Steve, how soon do you think this change will happen?

 

[Businesswise Solutions]

If you PM me your email address, I will send you plenty of info ( pdf's etc ) on the gateways -

Cheers

Dean

 

[saxondale]

I think a premicell is a GSM Gateway? ie basically a mobile in a box with connections for phone & PC?

I use 2n Easygate GSM gateways. There's a SIM in them & when you call to mobile through them you use the mobile minutes in the SIM.

Be very careful what operator you use - O2 are fine but T-Mobile specifically ban it - they WILL find out & block the card. Also the commercial use (re-selling the service) is illegal.

I understood premicells had been "outlawed" by the service providers?

 

[Businesswise Solutions]

I understood premicells had been "outlawed" by the service providers?

It is true that they are 'frowned' upon - even though the networks use them themselves!

We have it in writing from 2 networks that we can use their SIMS in our gateways

 

[british steve]

It is true that they are 'frowned' upon - even though the networks use them themselves!

We have it in writing from 2 networks that we can use their SIMS in our gateways

Can I ask what two networks have allowed it? PM me if you dont want to post that info on here!

 

[sanjiv]

Can I ask what two networks have allowed it? PM me if you dont want to post that info on here!

Same please

 

[flipdee]

Hi, would you mind sending me a PM too please?
Vodafone blocked the 2N Easygate I was using, although they just seemed to add it's imei to a blacklist.
The sim continued to work in a standard handset.
I find it strange that there are so many premicell online resellers but they make no mention of recommended networks.
It's an expensive exercise buying a premicell, getting a sim under contact and then getting it blocked.
Many thanks,
Flipdee

 

[flipdee]

Hi, would you mind sending me a PM too please?
Vodafone blocked the 2N Easygate I was using, although they just seemed to add it's imei to a blacklist.
The sim continued to work in a standard handset.
I find it strange that there are so many premicell online resellers but they make no mention of recommended networks.
It's an expensive exercise buying a premicell, getting a sim under contact and then getting it blocked.
Many thanks,
Flipdee

 

[simonclark123]

Hi Flipdee
I specialise in selling these devices on Ebay (just search for 'premicell' on Ebay and you'll find me!).
Please feel free to contact me as I may be able to offer some assistance.
Best Regards
Simon Clark at Business Telecoms dot com

 

[roydmoorian]

Got it, my computer was opening .com not .co.uk