Any one using Channel Advisor or esellerpro??

Tahirfayyaz

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Hi,

I am trying to find a system that will streamline our daily processes as we sell on our own website, on amazon and on eBay.

Is anyone using Channel Advisor or esellerpro??

I have had a demo with both and both look good but any personal experience would be very valuable.

Finally is anyone using the above programs with quickbooks succesfully?
 

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I can't comment on eseller pro as I've had no dealings with them and they are a UK company but I would be very very cautious about using software packages designed for ebay US and then adapted for UK. I would be very interested in knowing how many people sign there contract and have to pay to get out of it without any sales or because there sales are dropping. I can highly recommend purchasing last years copy of sage account professional and a program called trade box by platform one this will take orders from Ebay / Amazon and add them to the sage accounts package. This will give you full stock control sales & purchase order processing
 
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...I would be very very cautious about using software packages designed for ebay US and then adapted for UK.

I think there is some truth in this, but its a very limiting view... because there are very few UK companies making software for eBay sellers.

Although ChannelAdvisor are a US company they are unusual in this market because they have an office in the UK (Richmond). The only other notable US auction management company with a UK office was MarketWorks, who were bought by... ChannelAdvisor!

Here are the homegrown eBay solutions companies I know of:

eSellerPro
Tradebox
Giant Systems / Cascade
247topseller


 
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We use channeladvisor for ebay amazon and our website.
www.jigthings.com is our channel advisor store
ebay store is jigthingsusa
and the products are listed in Amazon.com
It does get easier to use as you go along.

They are getting better but not cheap.

If you have any questions send me a pm or ask on here i will try to help you if i can.
 
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247 Top Seller

I've just found this forum and its great! I'm from 247 Top Seller who are reasonably new to the multi-channel market but definitely not new to online selling. We have listened to sellers requirements and developed a bespoke multi-channel solution that really helps larger sellers grow their online business.

We respond to change very quickly and have a great support team who go out of their way to fix any issues and keep our customers happy. The team can be reached by email, Skype or through our Resolution Centre.

Our solution is fully integrated with eBay, Amazon, Google Product search and other shopping sites. From one inventory you can feed to all these and your own website which is packed full of functionality.

Our Amazon solution is clever in that it scans the competition and re-prices regularly throughout the day within your set parameters. It re-prices the total cost including shipping price which is essential for success on Amazon.

We also have design services (eBay Shop just £295, template £195, package £450) and an SEO team who can really increase your exposure on search engines.

Our solution is bespoke and will be tailored to your requirements including any integrations you might need eg shipping, accounting. Our costs are very reasonable and we work with our customers to explore all avenues for success online.

If anyone would like to know more about our solutions and services please drop by the site (Google 247 Top Seller as I can't post the url yet as I've only just joined) or give us a call on 020 7016 7774. We are a very friendly bunch and will go out of our way to build a solution that fits your business requirements.
 
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Hi, I'm Rick and I work at ChannelAdvisor.

Many of these solutions mentioned on this thread are complementary and not necessarily competitive.

For instance, TradeBox (accounting connector to Sage) and JustShipIT (shipping) are both integrated with ChannelAdvisor.

I don't want to disrupt the forum, but I'm happy to answer any ChannelAdvisor questions off the forum. Catch me on twitter as "channeladvisor".
 
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Who contact you? Channel advisor or eseller pro? Would be interested to learn of your experiences Lesley as It's something which I'm about to look into.

Mister B

Hi channel advisor contacted me, but i got a PM from a friendly UKBF'r who advised me to stay clear and confirmed what i expected.

Once they have your money, your fooked, £500 set-up fee and £300 per month, hmmmmmm, no
 
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Hi channel advisor contacted me, but i got a PM from a friendly UKBF'r who advised me to stay clear and confirmed what i expected.

Once they have your money, your fooked, £500 set-up fee and £300 per month, hmmmmmm, no

It really depends on how much you sell and how much time you want to save once CA is up and running it pretty much runs itself.

We pull the orders of for the UK at 12 o`clock send them to a fulfilment house in Peterbourgh job done, at 5 o`clock we pull of the american reports and send them to a fulfilment house in Olean.The tracking codes are sent back to us we import them and CA update every thing, stock is kept upto date ebay/amazon and webstore listings are all done automaticly by CA.

20 minutes a day tops we spend more time answering emails.

I belive you can have 5 diffrent shops on one account as well but im sure i will be corrected if im wrong.
Pete
 
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Hi Forum Readers,

We use ESellerPro at our company and I thought I'd share our experience with you.

Our reasons for using it are really to allow us to hook into a number of different sales channels, and manage the inventory across all these channels, optimise pricing and sales, optimise the customer experience.
Our strategy for growth is to sell our products across more and more online channels, both in the UK and overseas and launch our products across niche sites that appeal to different groups. e.g. wholesale versus retail and also breaking down retail into various niches.

We used to use an in-house system that wasn't integrated into the X Cart website we used and ebay and amazon channels were managed clunkily using spreadsheets or if in a hurry to make a change, through sellercentral.

We went live on ESellerPro early in 2009 with the solution using integration into one of our websites running on XCart. Our long term intention is to use the website platform offered by ESP as this allows for tighter integration for inventory and the ability to rollout sites and new channels very quickly and manageably. At the moment we're nervous about the impact on SEO of changing web platform.

We later added the amazon.co.uk channel and ebay.co.uk and are currently in the process of adding amazon.com as a channel. We don't do CDs and books so channels like play etc are not useful for us at present.

We also have added in fulfilment by Royal Mail, so orders come in and get pushed across to the fulfilment centre once checked for pick,pack and sending. The next step for us is to automate this so we only have to deal with exceptions.

We are going to add in accounting integration next. We added the system in gradually one step at a time from a risk management perspective.

The other benefit is that we have recently got some part time people to help with answering phone inquiries from a different location. Being web based, these people can enter phone orders and charge customer cards from a different location. We also use the voipfone.co.uk service for the calls. which works brilliantly.

Costs

We justified the charges based on time saved. I am from an IT background and I realise both the complexity of doing this in house and keeping up with changes in interfaces to different channels and the time factor involved and would rather spend this time looking for new products and new channels.

I think the setup fees are very reasonable considering the labour time involved. The monthly fees also are less than what we would have to pay to hire the extra person we would need, or the opportunity cost of doing it ourselves. Whether I will think that when our turnover is considerable will be another matter further down the line! :)

It's also worth mentioning that the extra channels brought on board have more than paid for this with the increase in sales which is not bad in the middle of a recession!

Now, when we add a new SKU, we add it in ESP and very quickly push it out to other channels. We don't have to reformat to suit and there are more tools to automate listings that we haven't even touched the surface of yet.

It's worth also mentioning why I haven't mentioned our company name. I thought about this and I think the use of this software is a real competitive advantage for us, so I don't like the idea of our competitors using the same software, which I guess is the ultimate compliment!
I'm happy to answer any specific questions that anyone has via email however.

I think software like ESellerPro and ChannelAdvisor can really help take away all the grunt out of running a multi-channel business. If costs are a real concern, you could probably put together some integration using 3rd party products to pull in orders from websites and then use macros or custom code to reformat your database to push out to multiple channels but you can spend a lot of time doing this and dealing with multiple vendors can be a nightmare.

I like the thought of being able to log a support ticket for a new channel and have it looked at and get back to running my business which is where my time is more valuable.

When considering a solution I would look at what channels are supported and ask for some customers for testimonials. I actually ordered a product from a company using ESEellerPro to see what the experience was like!

Since going live our ebay rating has moved to 100% partly because of our great warehouse managed by Royal Mail Fulfilment and partly because of ESellerPro and our amazon feedback consists of mostly 5 out of 5's so something is working!

Happy integrating! :)
 
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Hi there,

In answer to your comment. We're not a large operation. We just have setup our business such that it can hopefully become a large operation in the future. A year ago it was three people running out of a garage picking and packing the stuff ourselves, rekeying orders from XCart into a home built system and hand writing address slips, hand booking couriers using their systems etc. Turnover was about 185K per year. On track for about 250K this year with the new channels introduced.

We are now two people (husband and wife) and spend 100% of our time on growing the business and working ON the business rather than working IN the business. We can go away for a week and not worry about de-listing products or customer service. We can login remotely from anywhere with a wireless hotspot and check orders, and even push orders through. Our volumes are not massive - yesterday 38 orders for 117 items, but we're growing and it's because we have cut out the drudgery. We can now focus on sourcing new products and expanding our range and marketing.
We outsource our phone orders for about 150 GBP per week for unlimited calls.

I would advise if the costs don't work for you, try and get together with a few non competing firms and divide the costs between you. ESellerPro (and I assume other offerings) can hook into multiple websites and sales channels so why not hook into three websites selling different products, and go for a shared fulfilment offering?

Work out how much time per week you spend managing the order flow and inventory. What is your cost in time to receive an order and pick, pack and ship it. You can get a pick,pack service for about 50 odd p per item and get the benefits of their buying power on postal services. Our courier costs went down substantially going with a fulfilment house.

Also, why not contact the companies and tell them the price you are prepared to pay for the service. You've got nothing to lose!

Another option if you want to manage the integration yourself is to put a project up on something like elance and you could find someone (student in the UK, US or India etc) to work on your project and bid to work on it.
 
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Thanks that is a really useful reply.

Not for one second do I think it would be worth while doing this type of thing inhouse/outsourced. Why on earth when you have companies doing it for multiple firms and on an ongoing basis.

It is whether the start up and then ongoing costs allow the sums to add up but I also appreciate that moving over to one of these types of software structures may start making them add up - even if they do not do so at first - but while also putting in the structure for the long term and serious expansion - which as you point out it then allows.

(It is the listing time which drives me potty)

Maybe i will wait for one of these ecommerce fairs to come along and take a trip to see what is on offer.

Someone has commented earlier about the costs of Channel Advisor how does ecommerce pro stack up agains these?

If I was to think yep that is for me - how much time do you think I should allow for the change over and the work involved in doing this. Even some loose pointers would be a help.

Do they allow different pricing on the different channels - I would assume so but maybe not?
 
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Thanks that is a really useful reply.

Glad it helped! I know what you're going through and we had not much to go off when we moved over

Not for one second do I think it would be worth while doing this type of thing inhouse/outsourced. Why on earth when you have companies doing it for multiple firms and on an ongoing basis.

It is whether the start up and then ongoing costs allow the sums to add up but I also appreciate that moving over to one of these types of software structures may start making them add up - even if they do not do so at first - but while also putting in the structure for the long term and serious expansion - which as you point out it then allows.

(It is the listing time which drives me potty)

Are you talking re-listing, or listing new items? If there are commonalities between items, the tools can automate that e.g. include generic paragraphs on a brand or item type. If all your listings are completely different you will still have to enter the first listing manually, but can push it across to other channels.

Maybe i will wait for one of these ecommerce fairs to come along and take a trip to see what is on offer.

I would suggest a demo with all the relevant systems, and ask if you can talk to customers in a non competing industry, or see if there's an online retailer's forum where you can meet non competing vendors that have solved their integration challenges.

Someone has commented earlier about the costs of Channel Advisor how does ecommerce pro stack up agains these?

ESellerPro was more cost effective for us because of our low volumes. I would check both of them out though.

If I was to think yep that is for me - how much time do you think I should allow for the change over and the work involved in doing this. Even some loose pointers would be a help.

You can start listing stuff straight away on your channels then gradually add bits into the implementation.
My only gripe is it wasn't very structured. It would have been great to say first we do A, then we do B, but I guess every client is different and has different requirements. e.g. someone selling shoes in sizes and colour variations is different to someone selling PCs.

It took us about one-two months from go to woe. Having said that, it wasn't intense months. . The bulk of the time was spent getting our inventory spreadsheets together in a decent format, deciding what automated messages would be sent when for each of the channels, linking listings to SKUs in the new system, deciding how to automate feedback, pricing rules. e.g. someone is selling a product for 9.99, do you want to sell for less or more or the same, and based on what criteria?
Our business was also evolving at the same time as we were moving to a new fulfilment centre so more testing was required to prove the integration. We are 90% there. We just need to go live with our own website on their platform. This is our delay as I'm nervous about the impact on google rankings of a wholesale change. Next step is the financial integration with SAGE but we need to decide
how we structure our chart of accounts for best reporting. e.g. you can bring every transaction across or a summary of transactions then drill down in ESP. Also I'm not sure how SAGE will cope with multi-currency.

Do they allow different pricing on the different channels - I would assume so but maybe not?

Yes, absolutely. You can have one channel with free shipping and higher prices, another expensive shipping, lower prices, and the ability to price beat or price match saves a lot of manual work and inevitably means prices are different as not all competing products are on all channels.
 
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I personally would avoid channel advisor. It is an expensive solution for the software and service you recieve. I'm afraid i have no idea about the other company so can not comment.

We were with CA for 2 years and it involved a lot of work our end. Plus they are very sneeky regarding there contracts..... read T&C's before signing.... it was an automatic renewal after 12 months...
 
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Just another "avoid channel advisor" post... I went along to one of their sales conferences with a friend of mine who is also a businessman... we were both very impressed at what was being offered, and the sales guys were promising the earth.

Once signed up and you're put through to the support personnel it all goes down hill. Locked into a 12 month contract with no support, promises made by sales being broken by support, complete waste of time. I never managed to get my store off the ground with them, my friend managed to get his store up and running but then got screwed over with crappy support and gave up too. Both of us locked into contracts were were paying out hundreds every month for a service we weren't using. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid.

Ps: In the end we developed our own platform in house for a fraction of the cost of CA.

HTH
 
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Howdy,

I'm going to answer a number of questions in one go, if you need clarification, please refer to which question it was.


I personally would avoid channel advisor. It is an expensive solution for the software and service you recieve. I'm afraid i have no idea about the other company so can not comment.

We were with CA for 2 years and it involved a lot of work our end. Plus they are very sneeky regarding there contracts..... read T&C's before signing.... it was an automatic renewal after 12 months...

Howdy monkeyman101,

I'd actually argue that such providers are cheap to what its actually required to integrate to the given platforms and maintain the system to do so, however this is on a scale and if your business did not grow to the requirements of CA, then I'd say this probably wasn't the best choice for your business.

Also, why would the contract not continue after 12 months? You can easily give 30 days notice, or if that concerned in the first year asked for break out clauses. Both are common practice, although hindsight is not useful at times :X


Adding to this existing thread as I'm interested in esellerpro. Anyone out there using it or know someone who is? Particularly interested in some kind of guide price.

Cheers. :)

Hi dingbat,

£2,000 + Extras + 1.5% of total order value is about right (always possible to change though). If you cannot 'stomach this', do not look at them. The product itself is brilliant and can do pretty much most things you would require.

Hi,

Just another "avoid channel advisor" post... I went along to one of their sales conferences with a friend of mine who is also a businessman... we were both very impressed at what was being offered, and the sales guys were promising the earth.

Once signed up and you're put through to the support personnel it all goes down hill. Locked into a 12 month contract with no support, promises made by sales being broken by support, complete waste of time. I never managed to get my store off the ground with them, my friend managed to get his store up and running but then got screwed over with crappy support and gave up too. Both of us locked into contracts were were paying out hundreds every month for a service we weren't using. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid.

Ps: In the end we developed our own platform in house for a fraction of the cost of CA.

HTH

Howdy Sam,

No comment on the the support, the 12 month contract is expected and I'm sure you knew this before hand.

The reason why I'm replying to this comment is for this part:

Ps: In the end we developed our own platform in house for a fraction of the cost of CA.

I'm not buying this, you cannot replace a system such a system for a 'couple of grand', if you have then its nowhere to the comprehensiveness of any of the fore-mentioned companies. Although I'm not saying it doesn't suit your current business requirements ;-)

Anyone got updates on eseller pro, been researching it and it sounds ok

I'm biased (former employee) and it is, for the right businesses, if your an SME (£1M to +£20M pa) using eBay & Amazon, then yes its worth looking at, if you're a Micro SME (Less than £1M pa) then maybe not, unless you are intending on expanding. The same goes for ChannelAdvisor and 247TopSeller.

See this section on my blog http://lastdropofink.co.uk/category/tools/esellerpro/ for more information on them.

Hope that helps,

Matt
 
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Matt - thank you for the thoughtful response.

If anyone would like to learn more about ChannelAdvisor - our people and our software then you have the perfect opportunity coming up in two weeks time.

http://www.channeladvisor.com/catalyst/eu

This is our annual two day conference, with world-class presenters from eBay, Amazon, Google, Facebook and many more ecommerce experts.

I hope you'll be able to join us.

James.
 
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Hi,

Just another "avoid channel advisor" post... I went along to one of their sales conferences with a friend of mine who is also a businessman... we were both very impressed at what was being offered, and the sales guys were promising the earth.

Once signed up and you're put through to the support personnel it all goes down hill. Locked into a 12 month contract with no support, promises made by sales being broken by support, complete waste of time. I never managed to get my store off the ground with them, my friend managed to get his store up and running but then got screwed over with crappy support and gave up too. Both of us locked into contracts were were paying out hundreds every month for a service we weren't using. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid.

Ps: In the end we developed our own platform in house for a fraction of the cost of CA.

HTH

Hi Their,

Would you be able to provide me with some assistance as to which company carried out your development. I am currently seeking to develop my own platform and looking into linking this with a multi channel provider such as eproseller or channel advisor. I am doing some reaserch and your post sounded quite relevant to what I was after. Thanks
 
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Hi Their,

Would you be able to provide me with some assistance as to which company carried out your development. I am currently seeking to develop my own platform and looking into linking this with a multi channel provider such as eproseller or channel advisor. I am doing some reaserch and your post sounded quite relevant to what I was after. Thanks

Did you actually read my post? :p The clue's in the last line...

"Ps: In the end we developed our own platform in house for a fraction of the cost of CA."

Avoid Channel Advisor like the plague...
 
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I (and many others I know of) are not happy with Channel Grabber.
Personally I wanted to replace my existing software (Tradebox) by having Channel grabber integrate with a website, eBay and have Sage integration – I paid 1k up front.
After filling out the form, talking to the person doing the integration and even expressly telling them how I needed it setting up they completely messed up my stock and basically ‘lost’ all of my eBay stock – this resulted in many of my listings ending on eBay (about 50) costing me money and placement.
After trying to get this issue resolved for a week (yes, a week of having this issue! And a possible huge loss) I they finally tell me how it happened but its too late to reverse as iv had a weeks worth of transactions so I had to do a full stock check at my expense – didn’t even get an apology.
No way im trusting Channel Grabber with my Sage integration so I get this cancelled and still rely on Tradebox alongside Channel Grabber – brilliant, still paying for 2 pieces of order management software.
The service is a complete joke, my account got blocked because I hadn’t made payment (as agreed when the account was set up they would send me an invoice and I would pay by bank transfer) I hadn’t received an invoice so how would I know when or how much to pay? FINALLY get this sorted with useless sales staff who really have no idea about the platform or who I can talk to resolve simple issues just for it to happen the following month!!
All of these issues and I have only been with them for a few months – plus must have spent a fortune on the 0900 “support” line for issues caused by Channel Grabber.
My advice is stay well clear, company is useless and if I hadn’t paid so much up front and now reply on them for stock management I would drop them like a hot s*it.
Steve
 
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We are using CG atm. The 0900 support line is a bit of mickey take considering how buggy it seems to be, to be fair though they tend to be decent at responding to ticket submissions

Does anyone use Linn Live? I had a look at it about a year ago and it wasn't really up to scratch but wondered if they had improved things since then.
 
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We use LinnLive... I was a bit sceptical at first as the interface is Windows only, but with the latest upgrade to LinnLive 2, things are flowing very nicely. We have 1 ebay, 1 amazon 2 magento, 1 open cart and 1 joomla virtuemart store syncronising across Linnworks and all seems to be going well.

The main benefit is that their variation groups and compilation items (packs of 25, 50 of an item) works very well, so if you sell in bundles, Linnworks is the only one, actually the only one that works, which will intelligently sync your stock.

They are UK based and pretty friendly when we call. The nice thing is that although on their standard pack, you only get support ticket response, you can buy hourly one to one sessions, and we found this the best way. Use support tickets for non urgent stuff, then bundle together a load of queries and go through them all in the live one to one screen sharing session for £45.
 
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We use LinnLive... I was a bit sceptical at first as the interface is Windows only, but with the latest upgrade to LinnLive 2, things are flowing very nicely. We have 1 ebay, 1 amazon 2 magento, 1 open cart and 1 joomla virtuemart store syncronising across Linnworks and all seems to be going well.

The main benefit is that their variation groups and compilation items (packs of 25, 50 of an item) works very well, so if you sell in bundles, Linnworks is the only one, actually the only one that works, which will intelligently sync your stock.

They are UK based and pretty friendly when we call. The nice thing is that although on their standard pack, you only get support ticket response, you can buy hourly one to one sessions, and we found this the best way. Use support tickets for non urgent stuff, then bundle together a load of queries and go through them all in the live one to one screen sharing session for £45.

We also use Linnworks and are very happy with it. I've looked at the others but found they offered less but were more expensive.
 
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We use LinnLive... I was a bit sceptical at first as the interface is Windows only, but with the latest upgrade to LinnLive 2, things are flowing very nicely. We have 1 ebay, 1 amazon 2 magento, 1 open cart and 1 joomla virtuemart store syncronising across Linnworks and all seems to be going well.

The main benefit is that their variation groups and compilation items (packs of 25, 50 of an item) works very well, so if you sell in bundles, Linnworks is the only one, actually the only one that works, which will intelligently sync your stock.

They are UK based and pretty friendly when we call. The nice thing is that although on their standard pack, you only get support ticket response, you can buy hourly one to one sessions, and we found this the best way. Use support tickets for non urgent stuff, then bundle together a load of queries and go through them all in the live one to one screen sharing session for £45.

How is the ebay listing side of things?
I found quite a lot of problems when I last experimented with it....
We were limited to three images per inventory item (plus 1 for each variation I think).
Could not list in two categories for one listing
Item specifics sometimes would not be pulled in + we could not enter custom answers for them
Few other buggy problems as well.
 
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