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toastking
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I think they mean delivering to individual groups, as in parties and things when they run out am I right?
If so they went out of business since it doesn't really work, most people are sensible enough to buy everything they need, and the only ones who don't are students, and they can't afford inflated prices so the whole model is flawed.
If so they went out of business since it doesn't really work, most people are sensible enough to buy everything they need, and the only ones who don't are students, and they can't afford inflated prices so the whole model is flawed.
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There are loads of companies that do that. Mainly aimed at students. They seem to be unofficial outfits and I wouldn't be surprised if they were a bit slack on paperwork with regard to licensing!
The booze appears to originate from outside the UK. Additional money can be made by diversifying into other products (tobacco, narcotics, etc.).
It is unsurprising that they close down frequently, I suspect that the reason is the administrative burden rather than cash flow!
The booze appears to originate from outside the UK. Additional money can be made by diversifying into other products (tobacco, narcotics, etc.).
It is unsurprising that they close down frequently, I suspect that the reason is the administrative burden rather than cash flow!
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First the bad news OP. Years ago every off-licence used to offer a delivery service for decent sized orders like parties and they would even provide free glasses on loan.
Today the supermarkets have killed all that because they offer crates of beer so cheap that it isn't viable for a any small business to compete.
Now the good news which is actually twofold too. Have you noticed the price of Cola in the shops these days. It's more than doubled over the last year even in the supermarkets and even then it's damned heavy carrying a couple of bottles home if say it's just a top up a mum wants for the kids.
If I were you I would knock on a few doors on a local housing estate and I think you will find quite a demand for home delivery of soft drinks like cola and there are good profits made buying from a wholesaler like Bestway or Bookers. Now that is just one option.
There is another opportunity however serving a niche market which I think could be even more profitable and that is the demand - and it is now growing again for 'real ale'.
Now there are damned good profits to be made from those CAMRA guys & girls. Typical about £4 for a case of 6 pints and get this CAMRA.org (Campaign for real ale) are taking the pee out of members in my opinion y charging over the top normal retail and demanding a hefty deleivery charge. You could then even knock spots of the only major competitor simply by offering free delivery and there will be enough Camra members in your area to make a pretty damned good living.
Here are some numbers I put together for a friend with an off-licence but he sold up. You might find them useful then.
6 pints.( I days lunchtime booze for a Camra drinker). At least 4 cases a month then + £25 profit per customer. You can easily build up a round of 400 customers a month ( There are usually about 1,000 Camra members in any one area ).
400 X £25 quid = £10,000 a month - less the cost of a van & petrol. Blimey - did I say good. Bloody fantastic more like it and during the Rugby season you could double the take.
I am tempted to scrub this post and set up a round myself. Fortunately I have a policy of never mixing business with pleasure. Just as well I know with a van full of Abbot Ale - Bishops Finger or Specled Hen I would never get to finish the round.
The venture is up for graps then and BTW. Check your cuurent local licencing laws. It used to be that if you sold wholesale by the case you didn't need a licence.
Good Luck
Robert
Today the supermarkets have killed all that because they offer crates of beer so cheap that it isn't viable for a any small business to compete.
Now the good news which is actually twofold too. Have you noticed the price of Cola in the shops these days. It's more than doubled over the last year even in the supermarkets and even then it's damned heavy carrying a couple of bottles home if say it's just a top up a mum wants for the kids.
If I were you I would knock on a few doors on a local housing estate and I think you will find quite a demand for home delivery of soft drinks like cola and there are good profits made buying from a wholesaler like Bestway or Bookers. Now that is just one option.
There is another opportunity however serving a niche market which I think could be even more profitable and that is the demand - and it is now growing again for 'real ale'.
Now there are damned good profits to be made from those CAMRA guys & girls. Typical about £4 for a case of 6 pints and get this CAMRA.org (Campaign for real ale) are taking the pee out of members in my opinion y charging over the top normal retail and demanding a hefty deleivery charge. You could then even knock spots of the only major competitor simply by offering free delivery and there will be enough Camra members in your area to make a pretty damned good living.
Here are some numbers I put together for a friend with an off-licence but he sold up. You might find them useful then.
6 pints.( I days lunchtime booze for a Camra drinker). At least 4 cases a month then + £25 profit per customer. You can easily build up a round of 400 customers a month ( There are usually about 1,000 Camra members in any one area ).
400 X £25 quid = £10,000 a month - less the cost of a van & petrol. Blimey - did I say good. Bloody fantastic more like it and during the Rugby season you could double the take.
I am tempted to scrub this post and set up a round myself. Fortunately I have a policy of never mixing business with pleasure. Just as well I know with a van full of Abbot Ale - Bishops Finger or Specled Hen I would never get to finish the round.
The venture is up for graps then and BTW. Check your cuurent local licencing laws. It used to be that if you sold wholesale by the case you didn't need a licence.
Good Luck
Robert
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I have already answered that and a word of advice 01. You realy should stop reading or reccomending those 'Get Rich Quick' books. Most of them are written because the authours failed in business but are making a nice living thank you offering advice to others. Charletons all and even the entrepreneurs on Dragons Den don't seem to be bothered in investing in real businesses anymore. Just writing books about it and most of them have nothing to shout about in my opinion.
Theo made his money as an asset strippper. A breed despised by most people in business.
His female sidekick in so many DD vetures Debera or whatever her name is inherited her fortune from her fathers caravan parks and sold her part of the family silver. Big deal.
James Caen got lucky otherwise he would be reagrded as a scoundral who borrowed his hard working girlfriends saving to set up his first business as he openly admits. As said he got lucky. 95% of so called sntrpreneurs who borrow from family and friends do so as a last resort the business fails. Leaving families & friends ith a bitter taste in their mouths.
Peter Jones claims to have built up a vast fortune in media & telecom's. The last time I looked at his portfolio he owned an IT recuritment agency and as for the telecom's .I am sure I don't know. His investment in a guy that provided wi-fi at marinas possibly. Well that venture has tuned into just another site selling used boats. The only way I can see PJ making money is from sponsorship of those gawd awful coloured sox he wears and of course writing books.
Duncan seems to be the only Dragoon that rose above the ranks but if you look at his company's Gym web site it is as outdated as rum babas are at the Wimpey Bar. His property porfolio. A couple of houses in some unrememborable village in Scotland.
As said 01. I suggest that you stop reading the books and giving advice based on them and get streetwise instead.
R
Theo made his money as an asset strippper. A breed despised by most people in business.
His female sidekick in so many DD vetures Debera or whatever her name is inherited her fortune from her fathers caravan parks and sold her part of the family silver. Big deal.
James Caen got lucky otherwise he would be reagrded as a scoundral who borrowed his hard working girlfriends saving to set up his first business as he openly admits. As said he got lucky. 95% of so called sntrpreneurs who borrow from family and friends do so as a last resort the business fails. Leaving families & friends ith a bitter taste in their mouths.
Peter Jones claims to have built up a vast fortune in media & telecom's. The last time I looked at his portfolio he owned an IT recuritment agency and as for the telecom's .I am sure I don't know. His investment in a guy that provided wi-fi at marinas possibly. Well that venture has tuned into just another site selling used boats. The only way I can see PJ making money is from sponsorship of those gawd awful coloured sox he wears and of course writing books.
Duncan seems to be the only Dragoon that rose above the ranks but if you look at his company's Gym web site it is as outdated as rum babas are at the Wimpey Bar. His property porfolio. A couple of houses in some unrememborable village in Scotland.
As said 01. I suggest that you stop reading the books and giving advice based on them and get streetwise instead.
R
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You couldn't give this away in our area!
Now if your talking Doombar Tribute or Betty Stogs ooh aah
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I think there is a market for late deliveries. Sometimes we get together with little or no alcohol and there's no place around that is open (after 10pm). So if somebody could deliver at reasonable prices (say retail+ 10-15%) I would order occasionally. It's not illegal is it? to sell after hours
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A resounding no. For what reason? You would never buy enough to call out a service so that it would be profitable... max margin 15%
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Alex. You missed the point. Most Camra members are perfectly respectable and sensible drinkers who can handle their drink and I wasn't talking about late deliveries to party poppers already smahed either but a sort of club where they could order some standby bottles. Say a few cases a month.
They would never give up their beer festivals anyway.
M'Lady. Don't know where you get the 15% margin from. Even popular drinks like Fosters & Stella can be bought at a 30% discount at wholesalers like Bookers. They also often throw in an extra case if you buy 10 increasing the margin.
As far as premium Ales your talking up to 40% if you buy right and they are rarely discounted in the shops. The other thing to remember is price. A 4 pack pint sized Stella in an offie is £5. 4 premium real ale beers. Anything from £8 to £12. Given the margin it means that you can earn more than double per customer than crates of say Carlsberg.
Anyway. The delivery round was just an idea. It's there for anyone to take or leave.
WHOOSH.
They would never give up their beer festivals anyway.
M'Lady. Don't know where you get the 15% margin from. Even popular drinks like Fosters & Stella can be bought at a 30% discount at wholesalers like Bookers. They also often throw in an extra case if you buy 10 increasing the margin.
As far as premium Ales your talking up to 40% if you buy right and they are rarely discounted in the shops. The other thing to remember is price. A 4 pack pint sized Stella in an offie is £5. 4 premium real ale beers. Anything from £8 to £12. Given the margin it means that you can earn more than double per customer than crates of say Carlsberg.
Anyway. The delivery round was just an idea. It's there for anyone to take or leave.
WHOOSH.
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You need a premises licence for whereever you are storing your alcohol and a personal licence for yourself, I know somebody whos doing it who wanted me to get involved ( Ive been a licensee for years) and i wouldnt touch this business model with a barge pole. Abuse, drunk people after hours, bugger all margins and thats before i even get into the legal side of things. I seriously wouldnt bother.
Jon.
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kalooki
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Thanks to all who have replied Im only asking this as the company who did deliver here stopped as I have heard one of there staff got robbed, I was a quite regular customer couple of times a month go back to a house no beer easy done crate of carlsberg 20 quid with delivery.
Im mainly thinking of this for my brother who wont take **** from no one and can handle himself quite well, doesnt drink so could do local delivery and wont be drinking over the weekend, I've found out about the licence and its about £150 to be all legal so not alot.
Mainly thinking and trying to work out cost Im sure someone mentions they do something similar so I could with startup costs or Ill just send out all the leaflets buy a lot of stella carlsberg vodka and jd, if anyone asked for anything else say sold out this is what we have left and as a pissed bloke myself Id say yeh fine deliver it.
Thanks
Tom
PS Myself I do Driveway and Patio cleaning and if you require any of that in Essex/London/Kent www dot essexjetwash dot co dot uk
Im mainly thinking of this for my brother who wont take **** from no one and can handle himself quite well, doesnt drink so could do local delivery and wont be drinking over the weekend, I've found out about the licence and its about £150 to be all legal so not alot.
Mainly thinking and trying to work out cost Im sure someone mentions they do something similar so I could with startup costs or Ill just send out all the leaflets buy a lot of stella carlsberg vodka and jd, if anyone asked for anything else say sold out this is what we have left and as a pissed bloke myself Id say yeh fine deliver it.
Thanks
Tom
PS Myself I do Driveway and Patio cleaning and if you require any of that in Essex/London/Kent www dot essexjetwash dot co dot uk
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I have already answered that and a word of advice 01. You realy should stop reading or reccomending those 'Get Rich Quick' books. Most of them are written because the authours failed in business but are making a nice living thank you offering advice to others. Charletons all and even the entrepreneurs on Dragons Den don't seem to be bothered in investing in real businesses anymore. Just writing books about it and most of them have nothing to shout about in my opinion.
Theo made his money as an asset strippper. A breed despised by most people in business.
His female sidekick in so many DD vetures Debera or whatever her name is inherited her fortune from her fathers caravan parks and sold her part of the family silver. Big deal.
James Caen got lucky otherwise he would be reagrded as a scoundral who borrowed his hard working girlfriends saving to set up his first business as he openly admits. As said he got lucky. 95% of so called sntrpreneurs who borrow from family and friends do so as a last resort the business fails. Leaving families & friends ith a bitter taste in their mouths.
Peter Jones claims to have built up a vast fortune in media & telecom's. The last time I looked at his portfolio he owned an IT recuritment agency and as for the telecom's .I am sure I don't know. His investment in a guy that provided wi-fi at marinas possibly. Well that venture has tuned into just another site selling used boats. The only way I can see PJ making money is from sponsorship of those gawd awful coloured sox he wears and of course writing books.
Duncan seems to be the only Dragoon that rose above the ranks but if you look at his company's Gym web site it is as outdated as rum babas are at the Wimpey Bar. His property porfolio. A couple of houses in some unrememborable village in Scotland.
As said 01. I suggest that you stop reading the books and giving advice based on them and get streetwise instead.
R
I'm guessing your rich then? if you can scrutinise these people you must be sitting on a very high horse.
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Me RICH. Only in soul man. Have always been a sucker for blondes but boy oh boy have I enjoyed myself.
There you see I have admitted some failings on my part in my life plan. There must be quite a few members in the forum who must be wetting themslves waiting for me to make a slip up on every post too. .Sad - sad people.
There you see I have admitted some failings on my part in my life plan. There must be quite a few members in the forum who must be wetting themslves waiting for me to make a slip up on every post too. .Sad - sad people.
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Me RICH. Only in soul man. Have always been a sucker for blondes but boy oh boy have I enjoyed myself.
There you see I have admitted some failings on my part in my life plan. There must be quite a few members in the forum who must be wetting themslves waiting for me to make a slip up on every post too. .Sad - sad people.
then please may i recommend a book that may inspire you to become a financially more richer man!
Robert Kiyosakis- rich dad poor dad, series are a good start.
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I need no advice from you 01. I am already rich in spirit and you wouldn't know the sheer pleasure of walking away from a £750,000 house and say keep the f---ing place.
The sheer pleasure of starting from scratch and building a million pound company. I do I have done it 3 times in the past and I am about to do it again.
Not for the money. Not that I need to prove anything. Just for the fun of it and that is a luxury few of the richest men in the world are able to enjoy.
Like Sanj you want to throw away them there get rich quick books. Each and every one is hype. If the authors knew how to make millions in business they wouldn't need to write them and get this.
You only need to sell a few 1,000 hard copies of a book to get on the best seller list. Typical royaly about £4 quid a book. Wow so the guy has made £6,000 - £8,000 quid for a years work. Big deal - buy hey if they are the entrepreneurs you admire. Stick with it.
I press the button on my Bentley to wind the window down as I pass your tent in a field somewhere next year and even wish you good luck
The sheer pleasure of starting from scratch and building a million pound company. I do I have done it 3 times in the past and I am about to do it again.
Not for the money. Not that I need to prove anything. Just for the fun of it and that is a luxury few of the richest men in the world are able to enjoy.
Like Sanj you want to throw away them there get rich quick books. Each and every one is hype. If the authors knew how to make millions in business they wouldn't need to write them and get this.
You only need to sell a few 1,000 hard copies of a book to get on the best seller list. Typical royaly about £4 quid a book. Wow so the guy has made £6,000 - £8,000 quid for a years work. Big deal - buy hey if they are the entrepreneurs you admire. Stick with it.
I press the button on my Bentley to wind the window down as I pass your tent in a field somewhere next year and even wish you good luck
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lol Batra, dont they just
Even if they do, they dont stick posters of their bentley everywhere.
If I buy a bentley I wouldnt stop internet forums. lol
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Your like little girls some of you younsters ;Giggle giggle giggle. Don't you just love it when almost every time you look at a fab sports car there just happens to be a driver over 50 behind the wheel.
As for taking part in this forum. I do it because I genuinely believe that I can offer useful advice based on experience. That and that I binned the TV 2 years ago because of all the crap and this is much more fun.
So come on then you wannabe's. Declare your age and what business your in.
On my part I have been in business over 40 years and have built up busineses worth over £1 million in Retail - Electronics & Financial Services and didn't do all that by reading books.
As for taking part in this forum. I do it because I genuinely believe that I can offer useful advice based on experience. That and that I binned the TV 2 years ago because of all the crap and this is much more fun.
So come on then you wannabe's. Declare your age and what business your in.
On my part I have been in business over 40 years and have built up busineses worth over £1 million in Retail - Electronics & Financial Services and didn't do all that by reading books.
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Your like little girls some of you younsters ;Giggle giggle giggle. Don't you just love it when almost every time you look at a fab sports car there just happens to be a driver over 50 behind the wheel.
As for taking part in this forum. I do it because I genuinely believe that I can offer useful advice based on experience. That and that I binned the TV 2 years ago because of all the crap and this is much more fun.
So come on then you wannabe's. Declare your age and what business your in.
On my part I have been in business over 40 years and have built up busineses worth over £1 million in Retail - Electronics & Financial Services and didn't do all that by reading books.
My age is 22 and has already been declared on this forum.
For the books, I dont bother with book as I believe there is nothing like GET RICH QUICK
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