Well the Government leaflet makes it clear that, provided there were no pigs in the water, you are in no immediate danger. I'm assuming you didn't ingest any bacon butties before or after the ride.
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Swine Flu - another reason not to shop??
- Thread starter movietub
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Well the Government leaflet makes it clear that, provided there were no pigs in the water, you are in no immediate danger. I'm assuming you didn't ingest any bacon butties before or after the ride.
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ukofficedirect
Here at UK Office Direct we are seeing an unprecedented rise in online sales for 'Antibacterial Hand Gel' products, this is due to the current concerns over Swine Flu and how to stop it from spreading.
You can visit the UK Office Direct website to review and buy our top selling hand hygiene products (listed below)
You can visit the UK Office Direct website to review and buy our top selling hand hygiene products (listed below)
- Durable Hand Gel Antibacterial 500ml Ref 5809-19
- AF Clene Swipe Tub Hand Clene Antibacterial Wipes Gentle on Skin Ref CSSH
- Kimcare Antibacterial Foam Soap Hand Cleanser Dispenser Refill 1000ml Ref 6341
- Purrell Classic Hygienic Hand Gel Sanitiser Holder with Bottle 240ml
- Purrell Hygienic Hand Gel Sanitiser Bottle Refill 240ml Ref N06226
- Purrell Pal Hygienic Hand Gel Sanitiser Holder with Bottle 240ml Ref N06206
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Yes, yes, yes, or you could drop in on Makro and buy these items at a fraction of the price.
Nice attempt at pitching. There's room for improvement.
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WHY?
This is exactly the reason we should be working at prevention rather than panicking about a cure. This panic has increased sales dramatically this week for the same reasons as UKofficedirect says.
Yes the Flu Virus can survive on all kinds of surfaces for several hours and it only takes someone to sneeze as they walk past a door for you to pick it up off the handles later on - then if you touch your face near your eyes or mouth - that is when you are likely to contract it yourself.
Simple hand hygiene and hard surface hygiene should be a simple daily routine and a good habit.
We stock a range of 'Alcohol Free' environmentally friendly antibacterial products including hand rub, wipes, surface spray and disinfectant concentrate that are pleasant and easy to use at home, in public and in the office. [Green Hygiene]
Never mind the panic, just taking better hygienic precautions can reduce the chances of even catching a simple colds or tummy bugs which are unpleasant enough and costly in time off work already.
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Thanks MattyLoving the shameless plug!
If it does anything to help someone, either giving them more peace of mind or preventing them catching any of many kinds of bacteria or viruses, then it's got to be worth it. Let's face it, schools are one of the most worrying envrionments and it should be so easy to get kids to carry one of our hand rubs and use it. It's completely safe!
I teach my kids at home, as well as making my phone calls from home (nice one cjd) and we've as a whole family have had no where near as many colds as when they were in school.
CJD - Why are you named after Mad Cow Disease? (just curiosity)
My media style interpretation of your post =
LOL sorry couldn't resist that one :-D
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CatchFriday
Have you seen the advice on Business Link
I remember when I lived in Israel during the first Gulf War, and we thought there is no way that Saddam Hussein would bomb Israel, yet he did, and he missed Rambam hospital by 500 metres. (I worked in Rambam, but was not working that night) - after that i collected the gas mask.
I beginning to think that in London I may run into Swine flu through my work.
I remember when I lived in Israel during the first Gulf War, and we thought there is no way that Saddam Hussein would bomb Israel, yet he did, and he missed Rambam hospital by 500 metres. (I worked in Rambam, but was not working that night) - after that i collected the gas mask.
I beginning to think that in London I may run into Swine flu through my work.
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Just found this fascinating article, describing a simulation done by BoE in 2006! It gives a great insight into how you can prepare, but it doesn't sound good.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/secret-flu-plan-inoculates-square-mile-1677850.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/secret-flu-plan-inoculates-square-mile-1677850.html
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Oh dear I sneezed this morning, went all over the laptop, so I've burnt the laptop. Not very environmentally friendly I know but it had to be got rid of. I might just claim that government grant to replace that 3 month old PC with a brand spanking new PC that only runs Vista once a fortnight after a ridiculously long boot up but it has Paint installed PC World rulz OK.
Sign up to my spam ridden newz letter and I'll tell you how to save your soulz and have a big willy, in three super cheap ezines for only £9.99 and we'll throw in H1N1 and a super bug for free.
You're all going to die!!!!!!!!
Still the whole farcical episode just proves how gullible the public are. A pig-in-a-poke. Aaaaaaachew
Sign up to my spam ridden newz letter and I'll tell you how to save your soulz and have a big willy, in three super cheap ezines for only £9.99 and we'll throw in H1N1 and a super bug for free.
You're all going to die!!!!!!!!
Still the whole farcical episode just proves how gullible the public are. A pig-in-a-poke. Aaaaaaachew
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Oooh, I've been keeping an eye on this thread waiting for the shameless plugs to start and they have, so here goes...
What are you going to be doing during the swine flu crisis? Will you be in the office? If not who's going to answer your phone?
Officebird of course!
I can set up a call answering solution for you and your calls will be answered everyday for the length of the crisis.
When people are at home in quarantine you can guarantee the number of internet enquiries your business receives will increase, but a lot of people still prefer to phone rather than email. If you don't take your calls your competitors will!
Please visit www.officebird.co.uk for more information and prices
...So how was that guys? Shameless enough:|
What are you going to be doing during the swine flu crisis? Will you be in the office? If not who's going to answer your phone?
Officebird of course!
I can set up a call answering solution for you and your calls will be answered everyday for the length of the crisis.
When people are at home in quarantine you can guarantee the number of internet enquiries your business receives will increase, but a lot of people still prefer to phone rather than email. If you don't take your calls your competitors will!
Please visit www.officebird.co.uk for more information and prices
...So how was that guys? Shameless enough:|
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Sp? Mexi-aco?
Poor Sven
"My missus was stranded on the motorway yesterday with no petrol in her car. She knew the tank was empty but was petrified about filling it up until I finally convinced her swine flu was in Mexico, not Texaco."
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/s...omes-first-US-resident-to-die-from-virus.html
The lady that died had other health problems before getting the virus apparently...
The lady that died had other health problems before getting the virus apparently...
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...So how was that guys? Shameless enough:|
It was good, thank you. How was it for you now that I have a saved soul?
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For anyone who really is worried here's the flipside.
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/1...ure-Cause-and-Treatment-of-Swine-Flu-Outbreak
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/1...ure-Cause-and-Treatment-of-Swine-Flu-Outbreak
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That's upsetting to hear.
As the real Monkees said, "What Am I Doing Hangin' 'Round?"
Banana, anyone?
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Dawg
I am now ready to claim my tenner please.
So to I imagine is anyone else who posted earlier in the thread
Are you a man of your word????
A quick sample of news online, front pages:
BBC: No mention
Daily Mail: No mention
FT: No mention
Guardian:reference to inside article "British scientists crack swine flu code"
Telegraph: Report of 5 more cases at school, "A Department of Health spokesman said all cases of the H1N1 virus in Britain so far had been "mild"
Sun: No mention
Times: reference to comment by Mum of kid at posh school.
This, compared to the statements in parliament, the ordereing of millions of (useless) masks, and the frontpage headlines in all the papers might mean that tenner swimming the other way..
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- Original Poster
- #146
A quick sample of news online, front pages:
BBC: No mention
Daily Mail: No mention
FT: No mention
Guardian:reference to inside article "British scientists crack swine flu code"
Telegraph: Report of 5 more cases at school, "A Department of Health spokesman said all cases of the H1N1 virus in Britain so far had been "mild"
Sun: No mention
Times: reference to comment by Mum of kid at posh school.
This, compared to the statements in parliament, the ordereing of millions of (useless) masks, and the frontpage headlines in all the papers might mean that tenner swimming the other way..
Nope I disagree!
If Gordon Brown had not had such a laughable week this would still be front page. And it still is on quite few papers. Still gets a mention in virtually every news broadcast and is debated heavily on radio 4 etc.
Not to mention some very respected scientists have stood up and said this lull is expected and will not last.
Anyway thats all academic! The bet was that this would have blown over in a week. 7 days have passed and its still here. People are still going to hospital and I want my tenner
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I am now ready to claim my tenner please.
So to I imagine is anyone else who posted earlier in the thread
Are you a man of your word????
If you need a tenner that bad, post your address!
Out of curiosity do you still think that it's a pandemic? I take it that you read the SOOT link that I posted?
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- Original Poster
- #148
If you need a tenner that bad, post your address!
Out of curiosity do you still think that it's a pandemic? I take it that you read the SOOT link that I posted?
Aquatic Impact
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Times are tight dont you know
It's not yet fulfilled the textbook definition of a pandemic so no. But it will surely. Every few days new figures are quoted for worldwide infection rates, everytime the increase is larger.
I actually think its been remarkably well contained and treated so far but its only a matter of time before it breaks the net and starts to spread faster than it can be isolated. Why would it simply dissapear? No other flu ever does.
Great news on the progress with the vaccine of course.
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- Original Poster
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Why keep asking me that question? I told you in my previous post I didn't think it was a pandemic.
At the top of that list there is a little bug called 'influenza'. Which was, and still is a pandemic. It's just we are immune to it.
You have no immunity to swin flu - yet. Therfore I believe it certain that this will reach pandemic status.
Do you have any argument for believing this will not continue to spread and gather pace? What on earth do you think will stop it? It's all very well trying to be the calm voice of wisdom when other panic but not ok to go as far as saying 'pah it'll never happen' just becasue you cannot accept the idea.
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A few points, to explain why I distrust the data that has been presented.
Avian flu cannot yet be categorized as a "pandemic", because the virus cannot yet cause sustained and efficient human-to-human transmission. Yes, they are worried about human-to-human cases but it is not escalating sufficiently to cause a real concern.
The spread in Mexico was not particularly virulent, given the circumstances there. Incubation period 2-7 days.
The level of lobbying by the pharmaceutical industry and their ability to skew data for gain.
Loads of previous and similar false flags where governments have gone into panic mode, as its something cant control. There are no truly independent advisors, so they overreact.
The WHO now publish info so that every man, woman, dog now know about these things. Stuff like this happens all the time and fizzes out to nothing; the trouble is now people are aware of all the alerts. A decade ago they would not have been.
The media desperate for a scare story big it up, everyone jumps on the bandwagon As soon as the media drop the story, everyone will forget about it and life goes on.
I could go on. You have to pick your way through the barrage of information being spewed out these days and choose whom to believe and whilst imformation has never been more freely available, cutting through the crap gets increasingly more difficult.
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- Original Poster
- #153
Yes there is a lot of noise about nothing a lot of the time. But I really do believe this will spread enough and fast enough once it gathers pace to a) be considered a pandemic - although not a significant one b) cause disruption as unlike any other pandemic in history people will nowadays be told to stay home from work/school etc at expense to the economy as a whole.
I think you miss my point entirely. Yes its a given that the media and any organisation in a position to benefit will make things appear worse than they actually are. And yes first impressions suggest this is not particulalry virulant compared to other flus. But it has proven capable of jumping easily enough to lead to an ineveitable pandemic situation.
And I STILL have not heard a reasonable argument as to why you or anyone believes it will not continue to spread until that point.
What do you believe will stand in its way and stop it spreading???
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watch this and look at the post date! this video was posted nearly 2 weeks before the'swine flu' actually got into the mainstream media! i told a freind of mine it was going to happen nearly 2 weeks in advance before it actually did happen. we were both gob smacked!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wae--Tp1OU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wae--Tp1OU
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it is spreading...but...is it deadly??? hmmm not necessarily! the survival rates are just as good as normal flu! this one attacks the younger age group unfortunately and leaves you VIOLENTLY sick..is it a pandemic killer like the plague? nope!
hospitals current status are to 'observe for potential cases' and thats all..they want to contain this spread incase it does develop in to something else but in its current form its just a very violent and ugly flu! if you keep fluid levels up and get seen to as soon as possible you will be absolutely fine within a week or two.
its like flesh eating bugs..believe it or not..in the Med these arent as rare as you might expect...a guy died recently after just tripping on a pebble on a dirt track..he got infected, the flesh eating bug killed him..is that a pandemic?? probably..it appears in dozens of countries and has done for decades and its more deadly and horrific than H5N1 and H1N1 and can kill someone within a few days.
it's all about context..the current format of H1N1 is not as deadly as they thought at first..but they were correct in alerting the world and we are correct to keep scrubbing down..its a horrible flu to get and people will continue to die from it if they dont get the right medical attention or don't get diagnosed in time.
hospitals current status are to 'observe for potential cases' and thats all..they want to contain this spread incase it does develop in to something else but in its current form its just a very violent and ugly flu! if you keep fluid levels up and get seen to as soon as possible you will be absolutely fine within a week or two.
its like flesh eating bugs..believe it or not..in the Med these arent as rare as you might expect...a guy died recently after just tripping on a pebble on a dirt track..he got infected, the flesh eating bug killed him..is that a pandemic?? probably..it appears in dozens of countries and has done for decades and its more deadly and horrific than H5N1 and H1N1 and can kill someone within a few days.
it's all about context..the current format of H1N1 is not as deadly as they thought at first..but they were correct in alerting the world and we are correct to keep scrubbing down..its a horrible flu to get and people will continue to die from it if they dont get the right medical attention or don't get diagnosed in time.
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- Original Poster
- #156
I don't think any sane person following this thread has ever said it will be particularly deadly. Certainly I am nt in the least bit worried about my health. There is also no point arguing about if its 'enough' of a pandemic to be a proper pandemic. The fact is its enough of a disruption to affect most peoples businesses - or I believe it will be once the virus gets into full swing.
Thats not a pandemic. Bears and bees appear in several countries and kill people. The difference is that flu concerns people much more.
Walking through a busy street on London there is no real chance of a flesh eating bug related death. But there is every chance of picking up a virus from a passer by, if they sneeze for instance. Thats the difference, if its something people feel they can avoid by staying away form busy places a lot of people will. Shoppers, resturant guests, public transport users and so fourth.
Thats where the disruption comes in - and it will do so to a greater extent/infection rate than any previous pandemic.
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Dawg
As a naysayer, I saw this (American) article and thought it only fair to post.
Swine flu spreading too fast to count, CDC says
"..who say that companies and government agencies should be looking at lessons learned, and refining their preparations, over the summer, in case it comes back worse in the Fall, a la 1918."
Hmmm.
(Do the MPs know something we don't? Did they submit all those expenses knowing the end was nigh? Is there a conspiracy to introduce Lizard flu?)
Swine flu spreading too fast to count, CDC says
"..who say that companies and government agencies should be looking at lessons learned, and refining their preparations, over the summer, in case it comes back worse in the Fall, a la 1918."
Hmmm.
(Do the MPs know something we don't? Did they submit all those expenses knowing the end was nigh? Is there a conspiracy to introduce Lizard flu?)
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I quite honestly haven't heard anything about the swine flu on the news since my last post. I don't know if this is just because it's being kept to more local news in affected areas, or if they've decided it's too boring to follow after all. Maybe I've been too busy to notice.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30398682/ This link - posted earlier is a news clip which states...
As a chronic asthmatic I get ordered down to the surgery for my vacine every year and struggle to overcome some more ordinary 'bad colds' at times, so now they say this swine flu is nothing to worry about.
I'll stick with all my usual prevention methods of a clean home, clean hands and avoiding people with sniffles and colds as per usual. Then if the Swine Flu ever reaches our area, I'll just continue as per my normal routine above in hopes of staying healthy all year round.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30398682/ This link - posted earlier is a news clip which states...
That's a bit of a worrying reassurance seing as seasonal flu is a high risk and kills many and I'm sure those that don't die would rather have avoided catching it at all costs. They say 'not much more dangerous' in other words a tiny bit more dangerous. But then this is "Media" so do we listen to any of it?
As a chronic asthmatic I get ordered down to the surgery for my vacine every year and struggle to overcome some more ordinary 'bad colds' at times, so now they say this swine flu is nothing to worry about.
I'll stick with all my usual prevention methods of a clean home, clean hands and avoiding people with sniffles and colds as per usual. Then if the Swine Flu ever reaches our area, I'll just continue as per my normal routine above in hopes of staying healthy all year round.
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