Vlad the Invader - Why not just take him out?
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NATO countries. They're already sending arms at the moment, although Germany seems reluctant. Curious.
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This and with knobs on!
The ONLY embargo however would have to be financial and that means making ALL financial transactions with Russia or Belarus a criminal offense.
Noticeably missing from statements about expanded sanctions against Russia was any mention of how the U.S. and its allies were going to deal with the big foreign global banks that conduct banking business for thousands of Russian corporations and millions of Russian individuals. Biden only mentioned sanctions on Russian banks.
That sent a loud message to the MOEX Index at the Moscow Stock Exchange, which as of 2:49 p.m. Thursday in Moscow had rallied into positive territory after a loss of 45%.
One of the global foreign banks with large operations in Russia is the French global bank Societe Generale’s Rosbank. According to its website, it has 5 million individual clients in Russia and 9,000 large corporate clients. It even posted a reassuring notice to its customers on its website yesterday, stating that it “continues to operate in a routine manner.”
Another large foreign bank with large operations in Russia is Austria’s Raiffeisenbank, which has been operating in Russia since 1996. It notes on its Russian website that it is “one of 13 systemically important banks in Russia,” that it ranks number 10 by assets and number 8 by the number of retail customers.
Italy’s UniCredit also has large operations in Russia. A bank spokesperson told Reuters two days ago that it “had very high provisions against possible loan losses and was ‘very liquid and self-funded.’
Then, of course, there is the U.S. global bank Citigroup and its banking subsidiary Citibank. (Citibank’s private bank has been laundering money for dictators and/or their family members for decades.) Citibank’s Russian operation reports that it is “a key banking partner for about 3000 corporate clients including more than 600 global subsidiaries (virtually all of 500 Fortune companies), leading Russian companies and mid-sized clientele.”
As for the Swift system - many banks have their own in-house backup systems that can bypass Swift instantly. We saw this in action on the reunification of Germany, when the Deutsche, Dresdener and the various Sparkassen were able to set up portacabin branches all over East Germany with satellite links to Frankfurt.
Only the threat of a prison sentence would stop this nonsense!
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Can Germany function without Vladimir Putin’s gas?
Nord Stream 2 was meant to deliver 70% of country’s gas and switch to renewable energy sources has been slow
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Sending old arms and nowhere near enough. Germany need the Russian gas. NATO are not united, or so it seems.
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Ukraine conflict: Protests held around UK in support of Ukraine
The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge say they "stand" with Ukraine, as rallies are held across UK.
www.bbc.co.uk
Though I don't know what they are sending specifically.
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Thanks everyone for the posts.
I started the thread because I find the debate very entertaining.
But also because my late grandfather was Ukrainian. His parents were shot by the gestapo, he then got evacuated to the uk, where he got forged papers to enable him to sign up with the British army and return to Germany & pop caps into some Nazi asses. Aged 15!
I started the thread because I find the debate very entertaining.
But also because my late grandfather was Ukrainian. His parents were shot by the gestapo, he then got evacuated to the uk, where he got forged papers to enable him to sign up with the British army and return to Germany & pop caps into some Nazi asses. Aged 15!
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Never mind Ukrainians, I read a story on the BBC that a British-Ukrainian man has been told that his newborn daughter (who is therefore a British citizen) needs a visa to travel to Scotland, and they have to travel all the way to Lviv from Kyiv to get it.
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At least now a number of countries have agreed to send exactly these, although they aren't planning to airdrop them.
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Swift update
12 minutes ago from BBC
www.bbc.co.uk
12 minutes ago from BBC
West to cut some Russian banks off from Swift
The EU, US and allies will block a number of Russian banks from the main global payment system, Swift.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Hundreds of mansions in Belgravia, Kensington and Mayfair about to be seized....
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Ukraine has called upon its citizens to dismantle all road signs so Russian troops get lost
inews.co.uk
Why not just point all signs back towards Russia?
'Let's help them get straight to hell': Ukraine tears down road signs so Russians get lost
In a Facebook post, the Ukrainian road agency said: 'Let's help them get straight to hell'
inews.co.uk
Why not just point all signs back towards Russia?
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Whilst I am not a supporter of the Guardian Newspaper, but being disgusted with the crap news from the BBC and ITV online, I searched for better news updates and found surprisingly that the Guardian online news has great overage, they have just updated the page to a new one so i enclose the old and new links for anyone interested
Old up to this morning
www.theguardian.com
New version from this morning
www.theguardian.com
Old up to this morning
Liz Truss says ‘nowhere left to hide’ for Putin allies – as it happened
Pipeline in Kharkiv and oil terminal in Vasylkiv believed hit as US, UK and EU move to exclude ‘selected’ banks from global payments system
New version from this morning
Zelenskiy backing hits 90% among Ukrainians in poll since invasion – as it happened
Vladimir Putin said move came after aggressive statements by Nato countries; Ukrainian president says meeting comes with no preconditions
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That's because they've closed the visa processing centre in Kyiv, and opened a temporary one in Lviv. Something to do with being bombed in Kyiv I think...
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Anonymous and IT Army of Ukraine have apparently taken down over 300 Russian government and bank websites
t.me
One site still online is the news agency tass.ru (labelled by Twitter as a Russian government organisation) which reported this morning that Ireland has followed the UK and other European countries in closing its airspace to Russian planes
This story carries the following BS-filled propaganda
On February 24, Russian President Vladimir Putin announced a special military operation (illegal invasion) in Ukraine in response to the appeal of the leaders of the Donbass republics (not real places) for help. He stressed that Moscow's plans do not include the occupation of Ukrainian territories (currently being occupied by Russian forces), the goal is the demilitarization and denazification (where are the nazis in Ukraine?) of the country. As stated in the Russian Defense Ministry, the Russian military does not strike at cities (except for the ones being striked at), but disable only the military infrastructure, so nothing threatens the civilian population (except the tanks flattening civillian cars and murdering their occupants).
IT ARMY of Ukraine
Email: [email protected] Чат | Chat: https://t.me/+rB6ESd47TFtjZDQy Сайт | Website: https://itarmy.com.ua/
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One site still online is the news agency tass.ru (labelled by Twitter as a Russian government organisation) which reported this morning that Ireland has followed the UK and other European countries in closing its airspace to Russian planes
This story carries the following BS-filled propaganda
On February 24, Russian President Vladimir Putin announced a special military operation (illegal invasion) in Ukraine in response to the appeal of the leaders of the Donbass republics (not real places) for help. He stressed that Moscow's plans do not include the occupation of Ukrainian territories (currently being occupied by Russian forces), the goal is the demilitarization and denazification (where are the nazis in Ukraine?) of the country. As stated in the Russian Defense Ministry, the Russian military does not strike at cities (except for the ones being striked at), but disable only the military infrastructure, so nothing threatens the civilian population (except the tanks flattening civillian cars and murdering their occupants).
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A newborn may be a british citizen but still needs paperwork to prove that. The baby won't have a passport yet and won't need a visa, but will need an emergency travel document, which would be available from the relevant centre.
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BBC reporting of this Ukraine invasion has been very slow and not very well researched with lots of grammatical mistakesWhilst I am not a supporter of the Guardian Newspaper, but being disgusted with the crap news from the BBC and ITV online, I searched for better news updates and found surprisingly that the Guardian online news has great overage, they have just updated the page to a new one so i enclose the old and new links for anyone interested
Old up to this morning
Liz Truss says ‘nowhere left to hide’ for Putin allies – as it happened
Pipeline in Kharkiv and oil terminal in Vasylkiv believed hit as US, UK and EU move to exclude ‘selected’ banks from global payments system
New version from this morning
Zelenskiy backing hits 90% among Ukrainians in poll since invasion – as it happened
Vladimir Putin said move came after aggressive statements by Nato countries; Ukrainian president says meeting comes with no preconditions
Guardian reporting is of a very high standard and if the Guardian was generally less biased in its reporting I'd probably go there as a primary news source
But it isn't so I don't
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The Guardian link i gave is 1000 times more informative than either the BBC or ITV online news posts and current
I think the guardian news paper appears slightly different than the web news outlet towards bias views reporting more facts from what i have seen from admittedly a limited timeframe
I think the guardian news paper appears slightly different than the web news outlet towards bias views reporting more facts from what i have seen from admittedly a limited timeframe
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On a minor point of order -
Only those born in the UK are automatically UK subjects (and NOT citizens). A child born to a UK parent becomes a UK subject at the time the parent applies for British nationality and not before. If the parent fails to apply, the child must wait until they are 18 before they can make such an application.
The same rules apply to German citizens born outside Germany.
If the BBC reported it that way "who is therefore a British citizen" then the standard of reporting is even lower than usual.
Only those born in the UK are automatically UK subjects (and NOT citizens). A child born to a UK parent becomes a UK subject at the time the parent applies for British nationality and not before. If the parent fails to apply, the child must wait until they are 18 before they can make such an application.
The same rules apply to German citizens born outside Germany.
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No.
A child born in the UK to a parent holding British Citizenship or the right to remain indefinitely in the UK is entitled to a British passport. If the parent does not apply the child can apply when they are 16. That only applies to the passport. They are British citizens from birth.
A child born abroad to parents who are British citizens is usually a British citizen at birth and has the right to a British passport in the same way. It gets a little more complicated if the child is born to a surrogate mother (which is freqauently the case when a British child is born in Ukraine, because of their different laws on surrogacy).
Although people are British citizens they will be required to prove it before a passport is issued (by birth certificates and so on) and this can take time, hence the issue of emergency travel docs to infants in Ukraine.
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What d'you mean 'No!'
- that's what I said!
Yes, but the UK parent has to apply. I should know - I've done it often enough!
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Apply for citizenship if you have a British parent
Apply for British citizenship if you have a British parent - who's eligible, fees and how to apply
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