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DavidWH

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We're currently hosting our main website and couple of smaller, less critical sites on a package that provides separate Cpanel accounts for each site.

Currently paying £140/yr with HiHosting

Not sure if this is overkill, and if there are better hosts or cheaper alternatives out there?

Sites are built on wordpress, the likes of FastHosts provide wordpress hosting, notably cheaper.

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DavidWH

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I don't think it's expensive for what we're getting.

Just not sure if we really need what we're paying for? Could stick some of the non essential sites on a cheap host for what they are as they're more hobby sites. the only critical one is the main business site.
 
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alan1302

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I don't think it's expensive for what we're getting.

Just not sure if we really need what we're paying for? Could stick some of the non essential sites on a cheap host for what they are as they're more hobby sites. the only critical one is the main business site.

If it is critical you are only paying £140. How much less would you want to pay to make a switch to an unknown provider
 
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I don't think it's expensive for what we're getting.

Just not sure if we really need what we're paying for? Could stick some of the non essential sites on a cheap host for what they are as they're more hobby sites. the only critical one is the main business site.

Completely depends on your hosting set up but you can add multiple websites to the hosting package providing it's included in your plan. It often comes at a cost though.

I'm just posting this as an example but we offer fully managed shared hosting from £60 per year. It is well maintained and perfect for a lot of small sized professional websites. But is per site (i.e. domain).

If you wanted to add multiple websites (which actually host something so not like different TLDs you want to redirect for example), then we'd provide a VPS or a different subscription that allows (x) domains within your account but it would come at a higher cost, but you can add what you like to it within resource limitation.
 
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    My question here is, why are you not having this conversation with your hosting company?

    If any of our customers were thinking "Am I paying for more than I need?" I would totally expect them to speak to us first and ask rather than to go online and start asking strangers.

    Your hosting company will know you and see all of your website's history and be able to advise you correctly. Speak to them first.
     
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    How many 'hobby' sites do you have?

    I had a look on their website and they provide this plan:

    Home Package - 10,000 MB of RAID Protected Storage
    60,000 MB of Premium Monthly Transfer
    cPanel Control Panel
    Hosts 5 Domains

    It hosts up to 5 domains and is £6 per month.

    I don't know how that compares to what you're currently on but it is cheaper.
     
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    If I'm getting a Bentley for the price of a Vauxhall I'll stay put, but not entirely sure we need the bentley.

    For £140 a year you are not getting a Bentley, you're not getting a Vauxhall either.

    What you're going to find one day is that cheap hosting comes at a price and that price isn't just poor performance it's poor support. When the stuff hits the fan you may need to deal with someone who understands the problem inside out. The basic economics of hosting means that guy isn't currently working at your provider.
     
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    For £140 a year you are not getting a Bentley, you're not getting a Vauxhall either.

    What you're going to find one day is that cheap hosting comes at a price and that price isn't just poor performance it's poor support. When the stuff hits the fan you may need to deal with someone who understands the problem inside out. The basic economics of hosting means that guy isn't currently working at your provider.

    Absolutely agree with this.

    ...And the person that you end up speaking to for any help or support is just basically a sales rep and wouldn't even be able to tell the difference between a domain or a mailbox.

    If the answer ain't wrote down in front of them, they will be completely useless. And trust me, that's a painful experience.
     
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    For £140 a year you are not getting a Bentley, you're not getting a Vauxhall either.

    What you're going to find one day is that cheap hosting comes at a price and that price isn't just poor performance it's poor support. When the stuff hits the fan you may need to deal with someone who understands the problem inside out. The basic economics of hosting means that guy isn't currently working at your provider.

    I have half a dozen sites with the same hosting company on the same package as the OP and I'm more than happy with the service that I received.

    Problems are dealt with quickly and efficiently even when they are my own fault as mine tend to be
     
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    Completely depends on your hosting set up but you can add multiple websites to the hosting package providing it's included in your plan. It often comes at a cost though.

    I'm just posting this as an example but we offer fully managed shared hosting from £60 per year. It is well maintained and perfect for a lot of small sized professional websites. But is per site (i.e. domain).

    Having just posted my own satisfaction with Hi Hosting and the service that they offer my main site is hosted with zigojacko's company and I'm very happy. I've moved around a bit due to poor service and sites continually going down but in the year plus that I have been with Clubnet I don't think it's gone down once and it loads quickly enough
     
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    If its single account with Cpanel, SSD server , backup and managed services I feel the cost on hosting can he reduced with a good quality of service.

    The OP clearly states it's multiple cPanel accounts:

    We're currently hosting our main website and couple of smaller, less critical sites on a package that provides separate Cpanel accounts for each site.

    This was later confirmed in response to your question:

    One for each website hosted in the package as I have the same one

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    As for my response to the OP - the price is fine. I wouldn't go with your current provider personally for numerous reasons but if you're happy with the service I also wouldn't move for the sake of a small financial saving because:
    1. A lower price doesn't equal a greater ROI.
    2. I'd rather stick with a known than switch to an unknown for a small saving.
    3. The service you currently have, multiple cPanel accounts within the same plan, is typically referred to as reseller hosting. Do a price comparison with reseller hosting services and you'll find your price is very much on the lower end, you're not paying a premium.
    Whatever you do, don't be tempted to host multiple sites within a single cPanel account. In this set up, all sites run under the same system user which means if one is compromised, they're all compromised. Your current set up is the right one.

    Hosting providers are interesting because on the surface they're all the same - the same control panel software, the same software set up (CloudLinux etc), the same BS marketing, the same irrelevant features advertised, the same BS uptime promises. Hardware is relatively cheap these days so resources are plentiful and most recommended providers don't oversell so much that your website is crawling. This would lead most to believe the key differential is pricing and perhaps support, but support is often average at best once a business reaches a certain size because really good support just doesn't work at the scale and price point of shared hosting providers.

    I would say the main key differing factor between providers is how they handle downtime and disaster recovery but that's not something you can measure until it's too late. One day your website will go down. A good provider will be proactively updating their status page (your provider does have an off-site status page, right?) and social media with the latest information. If it's a disaster recovery type scenario, they will have planned for this and will be executing their plan to have your website back up and running as soon as possible. On the other hand, with a bad provider, the first you'll probably know your website is down is when you notice, or even worse a customer notices - next you'll find your provider's own website is down, there's no status page, no social media updates and you're left completely in the dark not knowing whether your website has disappeared into a blackhole to never return.

    With that said, if you would like a suggestion for a good hosting provider, a small provider run by people who know what they're doing (and won't land you in the last mentioned scenario), I would wholly recommend Freethought Internet (for transparency this is my referral link but you can go direct here if you're more comfortable: https://www.freethought.uk/).

    For some general advice, here's how to avoid problems when it comes to small business website hosting:
    1. Keep your domain registration separate from your hosting. I recommend Hover - more expensive than most domain registrars but they're good and only deal in domain registrations.
    2. Keep your email hosting separate from your website hosting. Email is so important in today's world, you don't want it set up on a typical shared hosting service (relying on a single server with no redundancy in place). I would recommend Fastmail. Good web interface, good mobile app, full redundancy in place. I see the OP is using G-Suite which is great, this is the way forward - shared hosting providers are definitely not the place to host business email.
    3. Host your small website wherever you like but whoever you choose, periodically backup your web hosting account and download this to your computer. If your web hosting provider runs into problems, you can then restore this backup with any other hosting provider and point your domain at the new hosting account.
    4. Use a service such as Uptime Robot or Status Cake to measure the reliability of your hosting provider and so you know when your website goes down before your customers notice.
    Hope this helps.
     
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